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John146

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Again, if you change your mind, you learned something that caused you to change it. God is not capricious, and we get falsely accused of believing in a capricious God. If God changes His mind, then He is capricious,
Even on this thread you refuse to answer the question of Nineveh...good grief Charlie Brown!
 
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If God changes His mind, then He is capricious
If God doesn't change his mind, then completely remove the verses that say he does. Saying that "he can't because he's all knowing" is very weak attempt to get around it, and even further the attempt rips God of his free will to make choices. God changing his mind simply means he made a different decision in regards to his morality and relationship with his people. And that is what Exodus says he doesn't change his mind about - his promises and morality.
 
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If God doesn't change his mind, then completely remove the verses that say he does. Saying that "he can't because he's all knowing" is very weak attempt to get around it, and even further the attempt rips God of his free will to make choices. God changing his mind simply means he made a different decision in regards to his morality and relationship with his people. And that is what Exodus says he doesn't change his mind about - his promises and morality.
Look up anthropomorphic language.

Keep me as the apple of the eye, hide me under the shadow of thy wings,(Psalm 17:8)

How excellent is thy lovingkindness, O God! therefore the children of men put their trust under the shadow of thy wings.(Psalm 36:7)

He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.(Psalm 91:4)

Here are three verses that say God has wings. If true, then He is some sort of super bird.
 
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Look up anthropomorphic language.
That is beyond unrelated. The text is very plain about him changing his mind in regards to the judgment he said he would bring.

"And God repented" - Jonah 3:10 KJV

Other versions translate it as "God changed his mind" and "God reconsidered"
Sir Lancelot C. L. Brenton english translation of the Septuagint 1851-
And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil ways; and God repented of the evil which he had said he would do to them; and he did it not​
The Septuagint, which is the Greek New Testament, translates "God repented" as "μετενόησεν ὁ θεὸς, metenóēsan o theos".

The Septuagint uses Metanoia to translate Repent, which is what Jesus said to unbelievers - Metanoia and Believe the Gospel.

Meta means to change, and nous means mind, thus Metanoia means to change your mind.

Conclusively, the Septuagint translates Jonah 3:10 as "God changed his mind"

Furthermore Metanoia is not used in regards to Nineveh in Jonah 3:10 in the Septuagint. In fact it even uses the same greek word for "works" as in Ephesians 2:8-9, thus we are saved by Grace through faith, not by turning from sin.

There's simply no way to explain away God changing his mind. God will destroy the wicked, but if they turn from their evil ways, God will repent - change his mind - and not destroy them.
 

trofimus

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That is beyond unrelated. The text is very plain about him changing his mind in regards to the judgment he said he would bring.

"And God repented" - Jonah 3:10 KJV

Other versions translate it as "God changed his mind" and "God reconsidered"
Sir Lancelot C. L. Brenton english translation of the Septuagint 1851-
And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil ways; and God repented of the evil which he had said he would do to them; and he did it not​
The Septuagint, which is the Greek New Testament, translates "God repented" as "μετενόησεν ὁ θεὸς, metenóēsan o theos".

The Septuagint uses Metanoia to translate Repent, which is what Jesus said to unbelievers - Metanoia and Believe the Gospel.

Meta means to change, and nous means mind, thus Metanoia means to change your mind.

Conclusively, the Septuagint translates Jonah 3:10 as "God changed his mind"

Furthermore Metanoia is not used in regards to Nineveh in Jonah 3:10 in the Septuagint. In fact it even uses the same greek word for "works" as in Ephesians 2:8-9, thus we are saved by Grace through faith, not by turning from sin.

There's simply no way to explain away God changing his mind. God will destroy the wicked, but if they turn from their evil ways, God will repent - change his mind - and not destroy them.
Its anthropomorphism when used about God.
 
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Too bad the Bible doesn't say that.

You might as well say that about everything else God does.
That's a pretty weak argument bro. You realize it doesn't fly, right?

We're talking about God revealing himself to man, about God communicating to man, and man receiving this, interpreting all of it in the lens of all Scripture including all his characteristics and attributes.
 

trofimus

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Too bad the Bible doesn't say that.

You might as well say that about everything else God does.
1 Sam (1Kings in Septuagint):

29 And Israel shall be divided to two: and [God] will not turn nor repent, for he is not as a man to repent.

35 And Samuel did not see Saul again till the day of his death, for Samuel mourned after Saul, and the Lord repented that he had made Saul king over Israel.

So, if both statements are literaly true, we have what? Yep, a contradiction. These two verses were left next to each other for thousands of years. Why? Because its not a contradiction, "repent" there means two different things.
 
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That's a pretty weak argument bro. You realize it doesn't fly, right?

We're talking about God revealing himself to man, about God communicating to man, and man receiving this, interpreting all of it in the lens of all Scripture including all his characteristics and attributes.
God literally changes His mind because it says He repented. However, when it says God literally hated Esau, well, that means to love him less. See how it works my friend.
 
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That's a pretty weak argument bro. You realize it doesn't fly, right?
It's a very strong argument, because it can't get anymore plain. And a very simple one in response to such a robotic response, which is the actual weak response, that as well makes God look weak in that your logic attempts to strip God of his free will.

God communicating to man
And in that communication he repents - changes his mind. (Jonah 3:10)
 
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The Bible also says God has wings. So is God some sort of Superbird my friend.
So by your logic

"the Bible says God created all things, but thats anthropomorphic language, he didn't really create all things".

God changed his mind - Jonah 3:10
 
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Locoponydirtman

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The American standard version, is clear, uses language that you are use to, and most Bible scholars claim it's accuacy as unsurpassed. Some even say it is the most accurately translated, others just say that in accuracy there may be equals but none better.
I myself find it useful because I am American and I speak and read American English more proficiently than I do Elizabethan English.
 
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So by your logic

"the Bible says God created all things, but thats anthropomorphic language, he didn't really create all things".
Not every thing is anthropomorphism my friend. Many things are to be taken literally. But when things are explained about God’s attributes, that language is used.
 
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The American standard version, is clear, uses language that you are use to, and most Bible scholars claim it's accuacy as unsurpassed. Some even say it is the most accurately translated, others just say that in accuracy there may be equals but none better.
I myself find it useful because I am American and I speak and read American English more proficiently than I do Elizabethan English.
Are you speaking of the NASB my friend?
 
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So by your logic

"the Bible says God created all things, but thats anthropomorphic language, he didn't really create all things".

God changed his mind - Jonah 3:10
God has wings then, by using your logic my friend.