Big Bang Biblical???

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greatkraw

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Zero-point energy(From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

In physics, the zero-point energy is the lowest possible energy that a quantum mechanical physical system may have and is the energy of the ground state. The quantum mechanical system that encapsulates this energy is the zero-point field. The concept was first proposed by Albert Einstein and Otto Stern in 1913. The term "zero-point energy" is a calque of the German Nullpunktenergie. All quantum mechanical systems have a zero-point energy. The term arises commonly in reference to the ground state of the quantum harmonic oscillator and its null oscillations.
Zero-point energy is sometimes used as a synonym for the vacuum energy, an amount of energy associated with the vacuum of empty space. When the term is used in this way, sometimes it is referred to as the quantum vacuum zero point energy. In cosmology, the vacuum energy is one possible explanation for the cosmological constant.[1] The variation in zero-point energy as the boundaries of a region of vacuum move leads to the Casimir effect, which is observable in nanoscale devices.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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quantum theories are only there to confuse ordinary people like me :p it looks too much like math :p
 
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greatkraw

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Quantum Physics is counterintuitive.

If it did not work we would not be communicating right now.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I had to look that one up :p

I guess so. But sure, theres a whole lot of stuff "out there" that doesn't seem to make any sense, so why not?
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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What we have here is perhaps one of the most un-Christian, anti-biblical threads that I have witnessed on this forum, attempts to reconcile Big Bang theory with Biblical Genesis as in the nature of universe origin as if they are compatible, is very dangerous. You know true Christians have been fightng against evil satanic doctrines like 'Big Bang' there entire lives and have suffered great hardship defending the truth and the Bible and then you come accross some calling themselves 'christian', talking like they know what 'the love of Jesus' is and yet they deny truth and promote lies, and refuse to repent, well that's the devil's work! God did not create with a 'Big Bang'.....I have explained why, the Bible account is absolutely clear anybody of reasonable mind can see that 'Big Bang' theory contradicts the Bible- totally, yet they act as if they are compatible, equallly, fitfully dovetailing together - wrong, wrong wrong! There is NO comparison, NO common ground and NO meeting place between the lies of the Devil and the work of God!

Big Bang is ANTI-BIBLICAL, in no way can it be found to have Biblical basis, or even logic, it is illogical, unreasonable.

Big Bang is a very ancient and evil hypothesis, a fundamental keystone modern secular cosomology;

It rests on four pillars;

1. A tiny bit of unconcious, non-aware energy exploded, creating the universe and all that is in it.

2. That exploded energy and all created from it is still receding from the central blast at great speed, referred to as 'expanding universe'.

3. The Big Bang occurred 13-18 Billion years ago, some of the gas-matter formed the earth 4.6 Billion years ago

4. The Ether must be removed, a speed limit put on light, space bent, time made elastic, and motion made relative!!!!!

And your textbook calls that Gospel! THAT IS NONSENSE! WAKE UP!
 
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wwjd_kilden

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can't god have mad the big bang to form material and THEN started to shape everything else? he is after all God, if he wants the mountains to be purple he can do it..
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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wwjd_kilden said:
can't god have mad the big bang to form material and THEN started to shape everything else? he is after all God, if he wants the mountains to be purple he can do it..
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NO, He did not.

But if you want to believe in Big Bang go right ahead, just dont lie and make out that God could have or did use the Big Bang hypothesis for creation origin.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I never have and I never will

I think ha mede the big bang and used it to form space

then he made the animals and let them ADAPT (change within it's own species) and made man to govern
 
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wwjd_kilden

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many do, i don't. and it really isn't that important. I just have problems thinkg of stars as six thousand years old
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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wwjd_kilden said:
many do, i don't. and it really isn't that important. I just have problems thinkg of stars as six thousand years old
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Ahhh, so you have a problem with faith in God's word? Yes you do have a problem, you should pray that God opens your eyes so you can understand, and leads you out of your ignorance and unfortunate indoctrination in lies of the devil, they do not mix with the truth of God.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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oh relax, it's not gonna keep me out of heaven anyways, no matter if I am wrong or right
 
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greatkraw

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wwjd_kilden said:
many do, i don't. and it really isn't that important. I just have problems thinkg of stars as six thousand years old
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AS I have said elsewhere, time is a physical proerty and goes at different speeds in different places. This has been PROVEN(Cup) by experiment. Dating the cosmos is really a very subjective thing.

Absolutely, the Earth was created first with the Heavens and the Earth is only thousands of years old.
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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wwjd_kilden said:
oh relax, it's not gonna keep me out of heaven anyways, no matter if I am wrong or right
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I didn't say that it would, but if you have no concern for what is right and wrong, what is a lie and what is a truth, than that is a serious problem. So you do not care for what is right and wrong?
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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greatkraw said:
AS I have said elsewhere, time is a physical proerty and goes at different speeds in different places. This has been PROVEN(Cup) by experiment. Dating the cosmos is really a very subjective thing.

Absolutely, the Earth was created first with the Heavens and the Earth is only thousands of years old.
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Time and motion is not relative, has not been proven to be relative, that is a lie., dating the Cosmos is objective.
 
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timjim

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MisaMisa said:
One of my pastors said something along the lines of "explosions don't create, they destroy", and everyone in the church agreed.

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Wow that is a good point.

When the japaneese bombed Pearl Harbor were they planing on creating or destroying something.;)
 
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greatkraw

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Cup-of-Ruin said:
Time and motion is not relative, has not been proven to be relative, that is a lie., dating the Cosmos is objective.
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I am the first to agree that temporal relativity is counter intuitive.

But, like the Law of Gravitation, and the Heliocentric Solar System(that is a tautology) it is a PROVEN FACT. By PROVEN FACT I mean it can be proven repeatedly by observation and experiment.

That is your credibility flying out the window.................:)
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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greatkraw said:
Cup of Ruin

I am the first to agree that temporal relativity is counter intuitive.

But, like the Law of Gravitation, and the Heliocentric Solar System(that is a tautology) it is a PROVEN FACT. By PROVEN FACT I mean it can be proven repeatedly by observation and experiment.

That is your credibility flying out the window.................:)
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Yea, the train and atrain station nonsense, it's not proven, your just deluded that's all and unable to face the facts of the Bible so you bend space, adjust time, and preach relativity, your just another little Kabbala diciple.
 
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