Bill Johnson Says He Can Make Micah 4:1-4 Happen

[DevotiontoBible]

This is from his book Dreaming with God p. 175. Notice how he leaves out parts of the prophecy. He doesn't believe in the future millennial reign. He believes it is now Kingdom Now theology:
CROSSING THE GREAT DIVIDE We have a bad habit of taking most of the good promises of the Bible and sweeping them under the mysterious rug we call “the millennium.” It is a great inconsistency to say the last days began with the day of Pentecost with Acts 2, and then take the wonderful promises of the prophets about the last days and say they refer to the millennium. For example, Micah 4:1-2 (NASB) says, “And it will come about in the last days…Many nations will come and say, ‘Come and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord and to the house of the God of Jacob, that He may teach us about His ways and that we may walk in His paths….’” The error of our ways is clearly realized in the fact that what is believed actually requires little or no faith to get what most of the Church is waiting for—the world to get worse, and the Church to get rescued. This is an irresponsible way to respond to great promise.

Here is the actual Scripture:

1 In the last days, the mountain of the LORD ’s house will be the highest of all— the most important place on earth. It will be raised above the other hills, and people from all over the world will stream there to worship.

2 People from many nations will come and say, “Come, let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of Jacob’s God. There he will teach us his ways, and we will walk in his paths.” For the LORD ’s teaching will go out from Zion; his word will go out from Jerusalem.

3The LORD will mediate between peoples and will settle disputes between strong nations far away. They will hammer their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will no longer fight against nation, nor train for war anymore.

4 Everyone will live in peace and prosperity, enjoying their own grapevines and fig trees, for there will be nothing to fear. The LORD of Heaven’s Armies has made this promise!

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Many nations since the first century AD have been, and are, coming to Mt Zion and to the house of the God of Jacob, that He may teach them about His ways and that they may walk in His paths. No new revelation here, Mr. Johnson.

But you have come to Mount Zion, and to the city of the living God, to the heavenly Jerusalem, and to tens of thousands of angels, to the festal gathering and assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of righteous people made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks better than Abel’s does. Hebrews 12:22-24​

 

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A shame far to many people reject the future millennial reign of Christ on earth.
The real gospel, or good news that Jesus proclaimed about his coming Kingdom.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

Many nations since the first century AD have been, and are, coming to Mt Zion and to the house of the God of Jacob, that He may teach them about His ways and that they may walk in His paths. No new revelation here, Mr. Johnson.

But you have come to Mount Zion, and to the city of the living God, to the heavenly Jerusalem, and to tens of thousands of angels, to the festal gathering and assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God the judge of all, and to the spirits of righteous people made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks better than Abel’s does. Hebrews 12:22-24​

But Micah is not writing about a "heavenly" Jerusalem. Hebrews is an allegory but Micah is the literal Jerusalem.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

A shame far to many people reject the future millennial reign of Christ on earth.
The real gospel, or good news that Jesus proclaimed about his coming Kingdom.

Maybe they are preparing themselves to be the anti Christ followers.

 

[prove-all]

"Thy Kingdom come" The Good news of the comming Kingdom of God to earth.
After human misrule causes great tribulation that almost wipes out civilization,

The living Christ is coming as “King of kings and Lord of lords” (Revelation 19:11-21),
to put down the rebellion of warring nations (Revelation 17:14), and establish God’s
world-ruling government over all nations (Daniel 2:44; 7:9, 13-14, 18, 22, 27; Isaiah 9:7).

He went away (to heaven) to be coronated, and to return to Earth (Luke 19:12-27).
He will then be on the Earth—Zechariah 14:3-4, 1 Thessalonians 4:16 (Nahum 1:5)
“We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come;
because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned” (Revelation 11:17)
“The mountains quake at him, and the hills [will] melt…” (Nahum 1:5), (Rev. 16:18)

-The seventh angel sounds-Kingdoms of current world become Christs (Rev 11:15)
Will commit thy government into his hand, established with judgement and jutice.
(Isaiah 22:21) Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end,
upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom,...(Isaiah 9:7)

the Beginning of that rule and world government “And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them,
and judgment was given unto them…and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years”
(Revelation 20:4).(Isaiah 11:2-4) And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall
separate them one from another,...Matthew 25:32

-A Kingdom appointed to the saints , made rulers over some cities.
the glorified saints of God made perfect,cities will be ruled by spirit beings.

Jesus said: “And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will
I give power over the nations: And he shall rule them with a rod of iron…” (Rev 2:26-27).
And again, “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne [on this Earth]”
(Revelation 3:21; Luke 1:32-33). And, “…we shall reign on the earth” (Revelation 5:10).

And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;(Luke 22:29)
Some resurrected saints will rule over 10 cities, some over five (Luke 19:12-19)
Saints shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, (Daniel 7:18)
We shall inherit the earth. (Psalms 25:13-22:26, 37:9, 22,29) not flesh and blood.

It was round about eighteen thousand measures: and the name
of the city from that day shall be, The Lord is there. (Ezekiel 48:35)

17At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the Lord; and
all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the Lord, to Jerusalem:
neither shall they walk any more after the imagination of their evil heart.

Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go
no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city
of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God:
and I will write upon him my new name.

And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt
be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name. (Isaiah 62:2)

-Jerusalem, the future headquarters city of the Earth (Haggai 2:6-8)
-Land Beneath Sea Reclaimed, converted to Jerusalem(Isaiah 60:5, 11:15).
World’s gold and silver reserves under the seas for beautiful decorations there.
-Gods latter house shall be greater than of the former (Haggai 2:9)
-Jerusalem is uniquely describes as being “compact together,” tall 122:3

-Desolate land shall be tilled - will be like the garden of Eden (Ezekiel 36:34-35)
-Build the waste cities-fresh produce-drink there own wine-farming (Amos 9:14)
-Waste cities “filled with flocks of men” being very social(Ezekiel 36:36-37-38)
-Superhighways between major cities (Isaiah 19:23)

-Cities being crime-free , dwell safely-none be made afried (Ezekiel 34:28-Micah 4:4)
-No more Violence, nor wasting, nor destruction (Isaiah 60:18)
-Cities overflow with prosperity (Zechariah 1:17) -Equitable property distribution
- every man shall own his vine and fig tree (Micah 4:4-Lev25) and

-“Joy and gladness-thanksgiving-the voice of melody(Isaiah 51:3)(Jeremiah 33:10-11)
-Where old men and old women dwell -full of boys and girls playing (Zechariah 8:4-5)
-No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up (Isaiah 35:9 )
-There will be Shepherds and local animal husbandry (Jer. 33:12)

-Pure Water—Fertile Deserts where trees grow (Isaiah 35)
-No more hunger-He will raise up a plant of renown (Ezekiel 34:29)
-A new sharp threshing instrument -the mountains made small(Isaiah 41:14-16)
-If any thrist and seek water, the God of Israel will not forsake them. (ver 17-18)

Trees planted and growing-consider and understand that the [Eternal] hath
done this, and the Holy One of Israel hath created it” . (verse 19-20)

--All will speak the same language, a pure language from God (Zephaniah 3:9).
God will also destroy the idols, Ezekiel 30:13, Micah 5:10-15, Zechariah 13:2

Thy graven images also will I cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst
of thee; and thou shalt no more worship the work of thine hands.

The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing. (Isaiah 14:7)
All the earth shall worship thee, and shall sing unto thee; they shall sing to thy name.
Psalms 66:4 -God has spoken it, and He is not one to go back on His word (Isaiah 55:11)

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

But Micah is not writing about a "heavenly" Jerusalem. Hebrews is an allegory but Micah is the literal Jerusalem.

The heavenly Jerusalem is the real Jerusalem. It's not allegory. And it will eventually come to earth.

 

[Nehemiah6]

The heavenly Jerusalem is the real Jerusalem. It's not allegory. And it will eventually come to earth.

You won't find that in Scripture. For the New Jerusalem to descend from Heaven is not the same as for the New Jerusalem to land on earth. In fact it will replace the sun as the source of light for the earth, and it is a massive heavenly body.

And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. (Rev 21:23,24)

You are not the only one who is unclear about what happens with the New Jerusalem.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

You won't find that in Scripture. For the New Jerusalem to descend from Heaven is not the same as for the New Jerusalem to land on earth. In fact it will replace the sun as the source of light for the earth, and it is a massive heavenly body.
And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. (Rev 21:23,24)

You are not the only one who is unclear about what happens with the New Jerusalem.

You're preconceived notions really bias your mind so that you are unable to see what scripture actually says and doesn't say.

It does say that the new Jerusalem will descend from heaven to where men dwell. There's heaven and there's earth, so there's only one place to go when it leaves heaven.

It doesn't say that the city will be a celestial body that replaces the sun and moon. That's just something you read into the text because that's what your dispensational belief needs.

 

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You're preconceived notions really bias your mind so that you are unable to see what scripture actually says and doesn't say.

It does say that the new Jerusalem will descend from heaven to where men dwell. There's heaven and there's earth, so there's only one place to go when it leaves heaven.

It doesn't say that the city will be a celestial body that replaces the sun and moon. That's just something you read into the text because that's what your dispensational belief needs.

Anyway, the point is that these Kingdom Now people think they can make this happen now by believing they can make God cause it to happen now. In this book, Bill Johnson compares this to the time Jesus' mother made Jesus turn water into wine even though it wasn't God's timing yet. He says we can make God do things even though it isn't God's time yet to do them.

 

[Nehemiah6]

It does say that the new Jerusalem will descend from heaven to where men dwell.

You won't find "to where men dwell" in Revelation. Here is what it says:
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

Can you see the difference between "and He will dwell with them" and "to where men dwell"? And can you interpret what is in that verse with what else is revealed in Scripture?

HEBREWS 12
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
["the tabernacle of God is with men" present tense]

24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

So you see that God is already dwelling with His saints in the New Jerusalem (which is their eternal home) and He will continue to dwell with His saints -- the Wife of the Lamb.

As to your dismissing the New Jerusalem as a heavenly body, you have yet to find a Scripture which actually says "the New Jerusalem will be on earth". And if there is no such Scripture, then your assumption is incorrect.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

You won't find "to where men dwell" in Revelation. Here is what it says:
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

Can you see the difference between "and He will dwell with them" and "to where men dwell"? And can you interpret what is in that verse with what else is revealed in Scripture?

Revelation 21:2 says the new Jerusalem descends; 21:3 says the new Jerusalem is now with men, which means it wasn't with men before it descended. Yet you say it is now with men before it has descended. Simples.