Bill Johnson's Presuppositional Based Hermeneutic Is A Psychosis

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From Wikipedia:
While Pentecostals and charismatics share these beliefs, there are differences. Many in the charismatic movement deliberately distanced themselves from Pentecostalism for cultural and theological reasons. Foremost among theological reasons is the tendency of many Pentecostals to insist that speaking in tongues is always the initial physical sign of receiving Spirit baptism. Although specific teachings will vary from group to group, charismatics generally believe that the baptism with the Holy Spirit occurs at the new birth and prefer to call subsequent encounters with the Holy Spirit by other names, such as "being filled".[9] In contrast to Pentecostals, charismatics tend to accept a range of supernatural experiences (such as prophecy, miracles, healing, or "physical manifestations of an altered state of consciousness") as evidence of having been baptized or filled with the Holy Spirit.[10]
Pentecostals are also distinguished from the charismatic movement on the basis of style.[11] Also, Pentecostals have traditionally placed a high value on evangelization and missionary work. Charismatics, on the other hand, have tended to see their movement as a force for revitalization and renewal within their own church traditions.[12]

Being a Pentecostal myself, I don't believe that tongues are the only initial physical evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit.
Peter & Joel lays it out plainly that the gift of Prophecy should be the main actual proof of the baptism.

The NAR claims it's in both the Pentecostal churches & the charismatic movement, with charismatics being the majority.
From Wikipedia:
While Pentecostals and charismatics share these beliefs, there are differences. Many in the charismatic movement deliberately distanced themselves from Pentecostalism for cultural and theological reasons. Foremost among theological reasons is the tendency of many Pentecostals to insist that speaking in tongues is always the initial physical sign of receiving Spirit baptism. Although specific teachings will vary from group to group, charismatics generally believe that the baptism with the Holy Spirit occurs at the new birth and prefer to call subsequent encounters with the Holy Spirit by other names, such as "being filled".[9] In contrast to Pentecostals, charismatics tend to accept a range of supernatural experiences (such as prophecy, miracles, healing, or "physical manifestations of an altered state of consciousness") as evidence of having been baptized or filled with the Holy Spirit.[10]
Pentecostals are also distinguished from the charismatic movement on the basis of style.[11] Also, Pentecostals have traditionally placed a high value on evangelization and missionary work. Charismatics, on the other hand, have tended to see their movement as a force for revitalization and renewal within their own church traditions.[12]

Being a Pentecostal myself, I don't believe that tongues are the only initial physical evidence of the Baptism in the Holy Spirit.
Peter & Joel lays it out plainly that the gift of Prophecy should be the main actual proof of the baptism.

The NAR claims it's in both the Pentecostal churches & the charismatic movement, with charismatics being the majority.
Well, of course their are differences in the pentecostal and charismatic movements, specific in their appearance. But they are Unique in their emphezising of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Since around 118 Years their teaching is in various derivates into the christian World. All claiming to follow the Holy Spirit, but as Non pentecostal and Non charismatic it is difficult to find out which of their teaching is right.
And on the other Side, their teaching calls all other christians as wrong and not filled with the Holy Spirit.