Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, what is it?

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Blain

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Honestly I have heard what people say the blasphemy of the holy spirit is and the most common one I have heard is to reject Jesus but I am not one to accept just anything I am told and I have not seen this in the scriptures. honestly the bible is not very clear on what blasphemy of the holy spirit is I to am curious
 
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honestly the bible is not very clear on what blasphemy of the holy spirit is
Exactly. That's why there are many different ideas of what it is.
 

RickyZ

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The Bible is very clear on what blaspheme is ... Matthew 12, Mark 3. both define it. Now, what is not clear is, how far car one go in interpreting that?
 
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"The HS acts as a human spirit"? Could this saying be teetering upon blaspheming the Holy Spirit?
 

Dan58

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Only a Christian can commit this sin.. If a believer denies Christ, its blasphemy against his spirit. "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 10:33).
 

Blain

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The Bible is very clear on what blaspheme is ... Matthew 12, Mark 3. both define it. Now, what is not clear is, how far car one go in interpreting that?
Well yes there is blasphemy but to blasphemy the holy spirit seems to have a much harsher tone to it, I mean every time we say omg we are blaspheming but to blasphemy the holy spirit seems like the worst offense somehow
 

Blain

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Only a Christian can commit this sin.. If a believer denies Christ, its blasphemy against his spirit. "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 10:33).
yeah but it still doesn't say anything about blaspheming the holy spirit, yes if we reject him then he will reject us but that doesn't say anything about the holy spirit in that verse or about blaspheming him
 
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The thing is, I've read and heard many explanations and interpretations. I want a concrete answer as to what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is.
Probably simpler first to know what it's "not" it's not taking God's name or cursing it is more "deep rooted" and "not trivial" probably the reason why it is not mentioned more "concretely" is most likely because noone has been "daft/foolish enough" to do so,the holy spirit just like salvation is a "gift" so blaspheming it would be like saying to God "I hate you entirely and myself" because as told in Genesis God's spirit can only be with us a "short while" so to be given it in more abundance as it is today and then "seek to be rid of it" is "unforgiveable" because it is what guides us, to be "closer" to God.
This is why I say that it is "deep rooted" and "daft" because what person alive whom receives God's holy spirit would want rid of it?
I can't speak for everyone but I like having the help of God's holy spirit and the joy it leads me to experience,I would be a fool to"hate the holy spirit" and that essentially is what blaspheming the holy spirit is as best I can explain hating the holy spirit so much that you intentionally do so much evil to be rid of it and most likely die for such a malicious abomination.
 

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The thing is, I've read and heard many explanations and interpretations. I want a concrete answer as to what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is.
To declare the work of the Holy Spirit to be the work of a demon...

Mark 3:KJV

22 "¶ And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils. {23} And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? {24} And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. {25} And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. {26} And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. {27} No man can enter into a strong man’s house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house. {28} Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: {29} But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: {30} Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit."
 
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The thing is, I've read and heard many explanations and interpretations. I want a concrete answer as to what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is.
If you believe Jesus is working for Satan, then you have blasphemed his spirit.
 

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The thing is, I've read and heard many explanations and interpretations. I want a concrete answer as to what blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is.
Here is a concrete answer for you. Explained for you by no less than God himself.

22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub,
and by the prince of the devils casts he out devils.
23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies
wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of
eternal damnation:
30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
Mark 3:
also mentioned in Matthew 12 and Luke 12
 

mailmandan

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Only a Christian can commit this sin.. If a believer denies Christ, its blasphemy against his spirit. "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 10:33).
If only a Christian can commit this sin, then why are the scribes (Mark 3:22-30) and the Pharisees (Matthew 22-32) in view in context of committing this sin?

In regards to Matthew 10:33, in context, this passage relates to the fact that the Pharisees had continuously denied Jesus while the disciples continued to speak about Him in every city they visited. We might paraphrase His teaching this way: "Whoever confesses me before men (such as you disciples), I will confess him before my Father in heaven. But whoever denies me before men (like the Pharisees), I will deny him before my Father in heaven.

Those who confess Jesus are those who recognize Him as being the true Messiah and trust in Him as the ALL-sufficient means of their salvation. Those who deny Jesus (and those who give mere lip service confession) but refuse to trust in Him alone for salvation place themselves beyond any possibility of salvation, since salvation is found only in Him (John 3:15,16,18; 10:9; 14:6).

The word for "deny" is an aorist tense. This points to the fact that Jesus is not talking about a single instance of denial (as was the case with Peter, who actually denied Jesus three times (Luke 22:56-62) but is referring to life in its entirety.

Hence, the person who throughout his life denies Christ (as was typically the case with the Pharisess and includes unbelievers who may even give mere "lip service confession" - Matthew 7:21-23, but lack saving faith in Christ) will be denied by Christ before the Father.
 

lovnkitties

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If you want a concrete answer I think you came to the wrong place.



it is in Matthew 12:22-32 that addresses the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (12:31). You have to go back to the context of the entire passage. Note that Jesus cast out the demons. The Pharisees said "This man casts out demons only by Beelzebul the ruler of the demons." "And knowing their thoughts, He said to them 'Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and any city or house divided against itself shall not stand. And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then shall his kingdom stand?'" These show the pharisees calling Jesus Himself a demon.

12:28 "But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you."
12:30-32 "He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with me scatters. Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come."

So...when those pharisees determined in their minds that Jesus could not cast out demons unless he was a demon himself. when in fact it was the power of the Holy Spirit that cast them out, it was blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
 
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...it was the power of the Holy Spirit that cast them out, it was blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
And that is the point. This is an offense against the Holy Spirit. They saw with their own eyes the Holy Spirit testifying through miracles to the fact that Jesus was the Messiah and they called Him (the Holy Spirit) a demonic lying spirit. That's a serious offense.

Even though they could see and know the truth about Jesus for themselves that the Holy Spirit was testifying to them through the workings of miracles (see Hebrews 2:3-4) they chose to reject that testimony. Grace can't and won't cover such an offense.

You can say a lot of wrong things, even about Christ himself, and still be saved, but what you can't do is reject the testimony of the Holy Spirit about the Son and be saved. To reject the testimony of the Holy Spirit is to call him a liar-1 John 5:10. That offense is unforgivable in both this age and the age to come.
 
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Honestly I have heard what people say the blasphemy of the holy spirit is and the most common one I have heard is to reject Jesus but I am not one to accept just anything I am told and I have not seen this in the scriptures. honestly the bible is not very clear on what blasphemy of the holy spirit is I to am curious
1 John 5:6,10. Not believing the testimony of the Holy Spirit, in effect calling the Holy Spirit a lying spirit.
 

lovnkitties

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I believe we are saying the same thing, which is a good thing
 
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Well yes there is blasphemy but to blasphemy the holy spirit seems to have a much harsher tone to it, I mean every time we say omg we are blaspheming but to blasphemy the holy spirit seems like the worst offense somehow
First thing to come to mind is the first commandment.

Blaspheme as to its foundation is simply to contribute the work or labor of one person to another .

To say OMG is not to blaspheme the authority/name of God.

Using the name of God is vain is to attribute the work of God to another manner of spirit other than the same spirit of faith (Christ’s) according, as a it is written .What we call sola scriptura.

To say thus says the Lord when he has not spoken ,or to say men in respect to that seen, must teach us because His Spirit cannot is to violate the first commandment . Therefore blaspheming the Holy name by which we are called heavenward.

Violating the first commandment is to commit blasphemy.


Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
 

Knohope

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Attributing the work of the Holy Spirit as done by the adversary. Pretty clear if you read what Jesus said of those who were blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

The mighty works of God attributed to the devil.

Mr 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:

Start at verse 22 and see the entire explanation from Jesus.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

I got into an agrument with my bf and I said I didnt anything to do with the holy spirit, the holy spirit is evil...bc I wanted to hold onto my anger...my bf made a reference to I wasnt walking in the spirit such as being slow to anger etc...(and at the time I really dont like when he used God on me to shut me up bc I wanted to continue to talk on whatever we were arguing) that's what lead me to say those things. The funny thing about that is, I knew to be very careful about what I said about the holy spirit so I was kinda contemplating which word I said bc I didnt want it to be used against me.. and I made the mistake to choose the word "evil"....and after that, I was very worried and gain false security through the internet of what the unpardonable sin is really all about. Thoughts and advice? Am I doomed or is there still hope?
 
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I got into an agrument with my bf and I said I didnt anything to do with the holy spirit, the holy spirit is evil...bc I wanted to hold onto my anger...my bf made a reference to I wasnt walking in the spirit such as being slow to anger etc...(and at the time I really dont like when he used God on me to shut me up bc I wanted to continue to talk on whatever we were arguing) that's what lead me to say those things. The funny thing about that is, I knew to be very careful about what I said about the holy spirit so I was kinda contemplating which word I said bc I didnt want it to be used against me.. and I made the mistake to choose the word "evil"....and after that, I was very worried and gain false security through the internet of what the unpardonable sin is really all about. Thoughts and advice? Am I doomed or is there still hope?
Calling that which is good evil would raise a red flag.

Blasphemy is likened to Plagiarism the "wrongful "stealing and publication" of another author's "will or language, thoughts, ideas, " and the representation of them as one's own original work.

The reason for the fall. Using the things seen to make claims of the unseen work of faith or labor of God's love the voice that does work in us to both will and perform his good pleasure...

In the garden the voice …. You shall not eat or you will surely die . looking to instant gratification (walking by sight) the ultimate blasphemy occurred. The glory of God departed. . The promised corruption began. Creating anti christs, another mediator other than the Holy Spirit not seen, another gospel

The best example is used with Peter blaspheming the Son of man, Jesus as that which the eyes see, the temporal.

Peter attempting as a commandment of men to forbid the gospel from developing. Satan working with Peter was rebuked as if he was Peter. Jesus declared...Peter get behind me Satan . For you have the outward temporal things of men seen. . . in mind. . . and not the unseen eternal things of faith in respect to Christ unseen.

Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. Mathew16:22-24

Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy of the Son of man, seen . Peter denied Christ the Spirit not seen in unbelief (no faith) But Christ cannot deny those who names are written in the lambs book of life.

If we attribute the work of God working in us to both will and do His god pleasure to any man seen to include Jesus as the Son of man when he was here. . . it can be forgiven. But against him as eternal Spirit not seen revealed by His word. . . "no forgiveness" .

They would be cutting the forgiveness off in unbelief. If God calls us to repentance we in turn after hearing his voice and then can repent and comfort ourselves. Knowing we are in his hands as the unseen will. .

Matthew 12:31-32 (ERV) “So I tell you, people can be forgiven for every sinful thing they do and for every bad thing they say against God. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit (not seen) will not be forgiven. You can even speak against the Son of Man (seen) and be forgiven. But anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven—not now or in the future.