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Jul 3, 2011
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Now it's mockery..

Really, Christians.. If Christians behave this way, then un-believers have a point NEVER to be Christians
The sad thing is Strangelove is not a Christian, but he doesnt realize it. He claims Christ but in works he does deny Him.

Titus 1:16They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
 
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4runner how can you say that? How do you know He loves his sin? How do you know he hates righteousness?
Since you dont know, which you dont. All your doing is acting immature, at best, slandering at worst. But one thing is for
sure. We dont render evil for evil. If you think a rebuke is called for then rebuke, but make it a righteous rebuke, or
lose your witness.
 
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#43
That was not a rebuke, but i am tired of seeing people get
pulled or pushed into this here in the forums. Not agreeing
is fine. But disrespect and namecalling isnt good. We just cant
let it take us off our stance. Even if they call us names. Its ok
 
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One more thing...we choose who we dialogue with. Noone is forced to talk to anyone..right?
 
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4runner how can you say that? How do you know He loves his sin? How do you know he hates righteousness?
Because he constantly defend his sin, and attacks those that believe in righteousness.
Since you dont know, which you dont.
I do know
All your doing is acting immature, at best, slandering at worst.
I am observing
But one thing is for sure. We dont render evil for evil. If you think a rebuke is called for then rebuke, but make it a righteous rebuke, or lose your witness.
I totally agree. But strangelove does not receive rebuke. further reason for me to realize he is not saved.
 
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#46
Well, remember we have to take care of ourselves. I understand.
But hold your ground, hold your peace. Dont give place.
Really someones salvation is not our call, above our paygrade.
Speak the truth and shake dust. But we are ambassadors not
company owners, so lets try to follow company policy. :)
 
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#48
All of this mockery reminds me of something a man of God once posted here:

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/29478-sin-mockery.html
Ramon its not that i have any issues with you(because i know of none at the moment) but if i did
that would give me no place to show disrespect. Mocking wasnt what VW had a problem with. He brought his troubles on himself. And He certianly did alot of mocking himself.

But my point is that there doesnt have to be disrespect in these forums...disagreement yes...a little arguing
maybe..but disrespect? No! Talking about someones salvation? No! And if we are Christians we will Love
each other even if we hate the others doctrine. Even Love our enemies, although maybe from a distance.
And we can have Christians who are enemies, its not right, but it happens unfortunatly.
 
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Ramon its not that i have any issues with you(because i know of none at the moment) but if i did
that would give me no place to show disrespect. Mocking wasnt what VW had a problem with. He brought his troubles on himself. And He certianly did alot of mocking himself.

But my point is that there doesnt have to be disrespect in these forums...disagreement yes...a little arguing
maybe..but disrespect? No! Talking about someones salvation? No! And if we are Christians we will Love
each other even if we hate the others doctrine. Even Love our enemies, although maybe from a distance.
That is right in what you say, to love our enemies, even all. But there is no love in mockery.

There is much disrespect in these forums. And it is allowed by those whose doctrines most line up with what the ones controlling it believe. I have seen more disrespect come out of some who are still allowed to be here than anything, yet they are allowed to continue, because their deeds are justified, though wicked, so not justified before God.

Neither do I care to be justified by a man nor a woman. I don't desire to please any man, but I desire to please my Lord Jesus Christ, I hope I am pleasing to God. Neither do I answer to any man, but to Jesus. He is my judge, and he will judge us all.

If we say we love one another, let's end all the disrespect altogether, and let's not be impartial in our judgments.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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#50
I play and have fun here...hope it isnt taken as mockery...sure i want to please the Lord too.
Im all for ending the disrespect to the person, not so much the doctrine. But its not hard to
disagree and be respectful at the same time. It isnt even that hard to show respect to a disrespectful
man. Im not really sure what you mean by the controlling ones. But we do have to hold to sound
doctrine to a degree.

Blessing to you Ramon
 
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How I see it is this: As long as your not attacking a persons salvation (i.e. calling them unsaved without valid evidence or something similar), or talking about someones mom, its fair game. Ladies and gentlemen this is the war room like stranglove's signature says. If you are not willing to have your beliefs challanged, or you are too hyper-sensitive this is not where you belong. Christians from all walks of life have had their beliefs challenged for hundreds of years why should we be any different just because we think someone is being a big meanie! Most of us are over the age of 18 and know how to make rational decisions so if you believe that someone is disrespecting you, step away from the computer for a minute or log out for a bit, no one is forcing anyone to stay in CC. If you encounter someone in the street who starts to disrespect you, I would presume you would walk away also. Ladies and gentlemen lets just use common sense. Just saying.
 
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Abiding, I believe in this with ALL my heart... Everyone reeps what he sows!... My Englsh is bad , but my heart and love IS GOOD! becasue I want to talk to people that does not sin! I want to have union with people that can HELP me to get out of SIN! Why isthisbad, or even considered impossible? I want to be united in a BODY of CHRIST where the WHOLE BODY only PLEASES GOD! and I know any sin even an evil thought will NOT PLEASE THE HOLY GOD!

Yet I NEVER professed to be saved, holy or perfect, I even said I am from SATAN's workshop, but I have hope to be saved, by Jesus.. And still Abiding, I am calle dhypocrate by the VERY same Strangelove! Why?

Let me tell you what a hypocrate is in Afrikaans and i will show you once again why I KNOW strangeove judged me wrong...
Hypocrate in Afrikaans is " Skynheilige" ... It means it is a "made up holy one" Or a person that only shines as a holy one or immitate the shine of a holy one... Now here is the CHALLENGE to strangelove... Show me ONE SINGLE POST where I pretended to COME FROM GOD OR ARE ALREADY SAVED....

I know God is busy with me, but i shure as God is my witness, have NEVER claimed to be perfect, saved holy or a God's child YET!!!! YET YET YET YET!!! I know I am going to be shortly, but even that I suppose will not sit well with the true hypcrates that sin and say they are saved...(Nust too many verses in the Bible preach the opposite f ..."saved sinners still sin"...

Man, God does not save a sinner to be a new sinner. God saves a sinner to be a PERFECT JESUS! God does the saving, that is why it (salvation) is so effective. Jesus did come for sinners to repent, not for sinners to be sinners! And Jesus himslef said he did not come for the righteous, but for SINNERS to Repent... Repent means STOP SINNING! and any person is only finished with repenting after he STOPPED all God wanted him to STOP SINNING! Then God does not leave you there,,,, Jesus said... Repent and be BAPTIZED... LOOK Baptism comes straight AFTER repentance are DONE!!! Then God selas you as A CHILD OF HIMSELF AS JESUS IS A CHILD OF HIMSELF!!! Completely perfect!

But hey I am a sinner, always was and soon not to be... but then I am a hypocrate sinner... now that is a oxymoron, or is it?

Abiding you always showed the best of respect to me, and me to ALL you know that. To date I did not even any person holy, saved or man of God, and even further did I not lable ANY person BAD things but myself.... And I deserved that, but what I do not deserve is also coming my way, does that mean that I am starting to get the things Jesus said we ALL as righteous people will get? Did Jesus not say that the FALSE ones would even murder the True preachers and they will THINK THEY DO GOD a Favour. How lost are these "chrsitians" to kill a True preacher and think they did God a favour.

Abiding I know God does not save half way... If we are in the SEA of sin, God lifts us up to WALK on SIN ...not swim in it... WALK ON SIN and togather with HIM we climb into the boat...DRY!

Let me shae this with you... Peter walked to Jesus and fell in the water.. Jesus picked him OUT OF THE WATER, and they BOTH Walked back to the boat,,, he did not drag Peter through the water to the baot, HE LIFTED HIM UP OUT OF THE WATER... The water is this world and sin... When Jesus saves us here we walk OVER SIN. not IN SIN!
 
Aug 12, 2010
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key word for verse 9 is
forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

It has to be a christian, who was forgiven once, but return to sin
It's just referring to people who have been made aware of the new system that was put in place by Christ for forgiveness of sins but who never truly grabbed it.

If you think you can go blind, you must be living in day to day terror.

Thats not a fruit of the spirit

Peace and joy is what being in the Spirit is all about.
 
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Excellent post RamonYou are exactly who he is referring to a blind Christ leading people astray who loves their sin, hates rightoeusness, and will one day find themselves is a ditch unless you open your eyes and repent
Why dont YOU open your eyes and repent?

Why do you love your (accidental) sin?

REPENT!
 
Aug 12, 2010
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The sad thing is Strangelove is not a Christian, but he doesnt realize it. He claims Christ but in works he does deny Him.

Titus 1:16They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
What are my works?

Tell us. You observe me in real life all day dont you?
 
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That is right in what you say, to love our enemies, even all. But there is no love in mockery.

There is much disrespect in these forums. And it is allowed by those whose doctrines most line up with what the ones controlling it believe. I have seen more disrespect come out of some who are still allowed to be here than anything, yet they are allowed to continue, because their deeds are justified, though wicked, so not justified before God.

Neither do I care to be justified by a man nor a woman. I don't desire to please any man, but I desire to please my Lord Jesus Christ, I hope I am pleasing to God. Neither do I answer to any man, but to Jesus. He is my judge, and he will judge us all.

If we say we love one another, let's end all the disrespect altogether, and let's not be impartial in our judgments.

May Jesus bless you.
I just want you to REPENT RAMON!

I want you to open your eyes and come out of your sin. Jesus wants you to be righteous why wont you let Him live inside you?

Why do you call it mockery?

Do you want other people to call you a mocker every time you tell them to REPENT>?
 
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Abiding, I believe in this with ALL my heart... Everyone reeps what he sows!... My Englsh is bad , but my heart and love IS GOOD! becasue I want to talk to people that does not sin! I want to have union with people that can HELP me to get out of SIN! Why isthisbad, or even considered impossible? I want to be united in a BODY of CHRIST where the WHOLE BODY only PLEASES GOD! and I know any sin even an evil thought will NOT PLEASE THE HOLY GOD!

Yet I NEVER professed to be saved, holy or perfect, I even said I am from SATAN's workshop, but I have hope to be saved, by Jesus.. And still Abiding, I am calle dhypocrate by the VERY same Strangelove! Why?

Let me tell you what a hypocrate is in Afrikaans and i will show you once again why I KNOW strangeove judged me wrong...
Hypocrate in Afrikaans is " Skynheilige" ... It means it is a "made up holy one" Or a person that only shines as a holy one or immitate the shine of a holy one... Now here is the CHALLENGE to strangelove... Show me ONE SINGLE POST where I pretended to COME FROM GOD OR ARE ALREADY SAVED....

I know God is busy with me, but i shure as God is my witness, have NEVER claimed to be perfect, saved holy or a God's child YET!!!! YET YET YET YET!!! I know I am going to be shortly, but even that I suppose will not sit well with the true hypcrates that sin and say they are saved...(Nust too many verses in the Bible preach the opposite f ..."saved sinners still sin"...

Man, God does not save a sinner to be a new sinner. God saves a sinner to be a PERFECT JESUS! God does the saving, that is why it (salvation) is so effective. Jesus did come for sinners to repent, not for sinners to be sinners! And Jesus himslef said he did not come for the righteous, but for SINNERS to Repent... Repent means STOP SINNING! and any person is only finished with repenting after he STOPPED all God wanted him to STOP SINNING! Then God does not leave you there,,,, Jesus said... Repent and be BAPTIZED... LOOK Baptism comes straight AFTER repentance are DONE!!! Then God selas you as A CHILD OF HIMSELF AS JESUS IS A CHILD OF HIMSELF!!! Completely perfect!

But hey I am a sinner, always was and soon not to be... but then I am a hypocrate sinner... now that is a oxymoron, or is it?

Abiding you always showed the best of respect to me, and me to ALL you know that. To date I did not even any person holy, saved or man of God, and even further did I not lable ANY person BAD things but myself.... And I deserved that, but what I do not deserve is also coming my way, does that mean that I am starting to get the things Jesus said we ALL as righteous people will get? Did Jesus not say that the FALSE ones would even murder the True preachers and they will THINK THEY DO GOD a Favour. How lost are these "chrsitians" to kill a True preacher and think they did God a favour.

Abiding I know God does not save half way... If we are in the SEA of sin, God lifts us up to WALK on SIN ...not swim in it... WALK ON SIN and togather with HIM we climb into the boat...DRY!

Let me shae this with you... Peter walked to Jesus and fell in the water.. Jesus picked him OUT OF THE WATER, and they BOTH Walked back to the boat,,, he did not drag Peter through the water to the baot, HE LIFTED HIM UP OUT OF THE WATER... The water is this world and sin... When Jesus saves us here we walk OVER SIN. not IN SIN!
REPENT!

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Abiding, I believe in this with ALL my heart... Everyone reeps what he sows!... My Englsh is bad , but my heart and love IS GOOD! becasue I want to talk to people that does not sin! I want to have union with people that can HELP me to get out of SIN! Why isthisbad, or even considered impossible? I want to be united in a BODY of CHRIST where the WHOLE BODY only PLEASES GOD! and I know any sin even an evil thought will NOT PLEASE THE HOLY GOD!

Yet I NEVER professed to be saved, holy or perfect, I even said I am from SATAN's workshop, but I have hope to be saved, by Jesus.. And still Abiding, I am calle dhypocrate by the VERY same Strangelove! Why?

Let me tell you what a hypocrate is in Afrikaans and i will show you once again why I KNOW strangeove judged me wrong...
Hypocrate in Afrikaans is " Skynheilige" ... It means it is a "made up holy one" Or a person that only shines as a holy one or immitate the shine of a holy one... Now here is the CHALLENGE to strangelove... Show me ONE SINGLE POST where I pretended to COME FROM GOD OR ARE ALREADY SAVED....

I know God is busy with me, but i shure as God is my witness, have NEVER claimed to be perfect, saved holy or a God's child YET!!!! YET YET YET YET!!! I know I am going to be shortly, but even that I suppose will not sit well with the true hypcrates that sin and say they are saved...(Nust too many verses in the Bible preach the opposite f ..."saved sinners still sin"...

Man, God does not save a sinner to be a new sinner. God saves a sinner to be a PERFECT JESUS! God does the saving, that is why it (salvation) is so effective. Jesus did come for sinners to repent, not for sinners to be sinners! And Jesus himslef said he did not come for the righteous, but for SINNERS to Repent... Repent means STOP SINNING! and any person is only finished with repenting after he STOPPED all God wanted him to STOP SINNING! Then God does not leave you there,,,, Jesus said... Repent and be BAPTIZED... LOOK Baptism comes straight AFTER repentance are DONE!!! Then God selas you as A CHILD OF HIMSELF AS JESUS IS A CHILD OF HIMSELF!!! Completely perfect!

But hey I am a sinner, always was and soon not to be... but then I am a hypocrate sinner... now that is a oxymoron, or is it?

Abiding you always showed the best of respect to me, and me to ALL you know that. To date I did not even any person holy, saved or man of God, and even further did I not lable ANY person BAD things but myself.... And I deserved that, but what I do not deserve is also coming my way, does that mean that I am starting to get the things Jesus said we ALL as righteous people will get? Did Jesus not say that the FALSE ones would even murder the True preachers and they will THINK THEY DO GOD a Favour. How lost are these "chrsitians" to kill a True preacher and think they did God a favour.

Abiding I know God does not save half way... If we are in the SEA of sin, God lifts us up to WALK on SIN ...not swim in it... WALK ON SIN and togather with HIM we climb into the boat...DRY!

Let me shae this with you... Peter walked to Jesus and fell in the water.. Jesus picked him OUT OF THE WATER, and they BOTH Walked back to the boat,,, he did not drag Peter through the water to the baot, HE LIFTED HIM UP OUT OF THE WATER... The water is this world and sin... When Jesus saves us here we walk OVER SIN. not IN SIN!
Yes Cobus, I do respect you, not your doctrine, but i like you. Keep walking with the Lord and reading the
word and praying bro. :)
 
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If i'm not mistaken Jesus said Love one another as I have loved you.