blood transfusions

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quote=Rosewater;419199]There are no restrictions on Christians, or at least Catholics, on medical care.
[/QUOTE]Yes, that I have noticed.
 
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[
quote=Rosewater;419200]That said, it doesn't hurt to pray for healing at the same time.
[/QUOTE]Yes that should always be our first option, but in some cases, God doesn't answer straight away and the person who has his spiritual beliefs will stick to them. There is a big decision to make when on the operating table, live or die...
 
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doesn't the Jehovah witnesses believe not in blood transfusion..?
[/QUOTE]Yes that is correct. That is one of their big things that people dislike them for. That is why I stated I am not a JW. My views are all from the bible..God's word. I read the bible myself first, I asked questions later. I'm still reading & I'm still asking questions!
 
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quote=mpaper345;419204]The Bible says the life of the flesh is in the blood,not the life of the spirit.The blood keeps our physical bodies alive and has nothing to do with the spirit.If someone uses that logic then when we die then we have lost our spiritual life,if it is in the blood,for flesh and blood shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
[/QUOTE]Yes, the life which is in the blood belongs to God. It's not ours. Our life that he holds in his hands goes back to him when we die for he owns our life and no-one else does.

But what about when we are alive. We are using that same blood that has the life in it, that blood that God owns. Do we have the right to give it to someone else, or take it from someone else? To save our life or someone elses?
 
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quote=MaggieMye;419326]"The Bible says the life of the flesh is in the blood,not the life of the spirit.The blood keeps our physical bodies alive and has nothing to do with the spirit. If the spirit is taken away, the person dies. If the blood is taken away, the person dies. The SPIRIT is the BREATH of God to bring one to life. There is that breath...oxygen IN THE BLOOD. ...not to mention taking in someone else's DNA which, because of sin, is perverted. Every wonder why some people that have had transplants take on characteristics of the donor?? It is BOTH a physical and spiritual thing...the blood. If someone uses that logic then when we die then we have lost our spiritual life, No. The BREATH can leave the body and it dies, but the person's spirit, that made in the image of God, goes to await judgment. flesh and blood shall not inherit the kingdom of God." Right. THere is a difference between "puma' and 'ruach'.
Maggie
[/QUOTE]I cant get colour on my screen or use coloured fonts. I have to go back to see who's saying what. It gets confusing for me. Do you know what I have to do to be allowed to use colour fonts?
 
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[
quote=MaggieMye;419326]"The Bible says the life of the flesh is in the blood,not the life of the spirit.The blood keeps our physical bodies alive and has nothing to do with the spirit. If the spirit is taken away, the person dies. If the blood is taken away, the person dies. The SPIRIT is the BREATH of God to bring one to life. There is that breath...oxygen IN THE BLOOD. ...not to mention taking in someone else's DNA which, because of sin, is perverted. Every wonder why some people that have had transplants take on characteristics of the donor?? It is BOTH a physical and spiritual thing...the blood. If someone uses that logic then when we die then we have lost our spiritual life, No. The BREATH can leave the body and it dies, but the person's spirit, that made in the image of God, goes to await judgment. flesh and blood shall not inherit the kingdom of God." Right. THere is a difference between "puma' and 'ruach'.
Maggie
[/QUOTE]But what is your answer Maggie? I sort of know where you are coming from and agree but dont know where your heading?
 
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It should be based on science. Medical

Science should detect any impurities or diseases in blood

before the blood is used for transfusions. Even the Jehovah's Witnesses society once

approved of them, I think; they tend to change their mind on things; first they say the

end of the world will be in 1875; then they change their minds; then they say 1914, then

they change their minds; then they say Armageddon will happen in 1975, and you get

my point! Then they change their minds when they think Jehovah's firstborn Son, Jesus,

will return. So, we should not reject blood transfusions, just because the Watchtower

Bible and Tract Society of New York (and of Pennsylvania) says so! In Erie PA Scott

R. Harrington

[/quote]Thanks for your input Scott. Yes the JW's have quite a few things wrong in my opinion..but they are on to a few things that are right as well. Just like every religion. I could never accept that the Archangel Michael is Jesus Christ, that just goes against scripture, because Jesus is above all the angels and they are told to worship him. ... And Jehovah is not Gods only name! You cant put God in that small box. Getting off track now, dont want to change the topic, we can discuss this in another thread...;)

Yes science can detect anything in the blood. They can even separate the blood and throw out the bad. I worked with a woman who had hepatitis for 20 years and she gave blood and the Red Cross knew this and still accepted her blood. They separated it... That bothered me.

I dont claim to know anything about the science of blood. I am ignorant in this. I have to google it to learn more. But my question is do you think it's ok with God to give and recieve blood transfusions?

When I had my 2nd child 10 years ago, I was in this position. I had just gone into shock from loss of blood and had to make my choice right there and then. No time to go through the scriptures. Couldn't even hardly talk, but I had read the scriptures concerning this years before. It stuck in my mind at that point of time as I was near death. They needed my permission back then for an emergency blood transfusion. My husband was crying and my baby was dying. Talk about pressure.
 
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MaggieMye

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Of course you have the RIGHT to give blood to help save someone's life. But do it WISELY, calling back to yourself your spiritual essence. All you have to say quietly before they take the blood is something like "In the name of Jesus Christ, I command all of my spiritual essence to remain with me and not any of it to go out with this blood tha I donate."
Pretty simple.
I do that every time I donate.
Maggie
 
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Likewise, if you RECEIVE blood from a donar, regardless of if you know who it is or not, simply pray "In the name of Jesus Christ, I command the spiritual essence of the blood I have received to go back to the donar. I command all personal and unclean spirits connected with the blood I recieved to leave and return to the donor in the name of Jesus."


Again...so simple. But doing this is spiritual warfare and it is using the name of Jesus to ensure that no spiritual uncleaness (the lab will check for physical uncleaness and approve the use of the blood before it is given to anyone) will become a part of your spiritual life.

We MUST remember that the spiritual realm parallells the natural realm and both affect each other.

Maggie
 
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I'll assume you are aware of the Levitical prohibition on eating blood and that it is carried into the NT in the letter of the apostles to the gentiles in Acts 15. A blood transfusion however is not the same as eating blood. It was commanded that when an animal was slaughtered for food, that's its blood be poured out on the ground, or the person respnsible would be guilty of bloodshed. To eat the blood would be to take the animal's life to yourself, rather than pour it out and consume the lifeless flesh. A blood transfusion however is not taken, but received as a gift. The life is not taken from another, but offered by the donor in order to give life.
Another consideration is that one law may over ride another. As a Jew, born under the law, Jesus was forbidden to work on the Sabbath. Yet He taught that it was lawful to do good on the Sabbath. (Matt 12:9-13) Is it not better to give (and recieve) blood that a life may be saved, than to withhold the gift and allow another to perish?

i agree 100 percent with this 1000000 percent thats has always been my take on blood transfusion its so simple
 
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[
quote=MaggieMye;419587]Of course you have the RIGHT to give blood to help save someone's life. But do it WISELY, calling back to yourself your spiritual essence. All you have to say quietly before they take the blood is something like "In the name of Jesus Christ, I command all of my spiritual essence to remain with me and not any of it to go out with this blood tha I donate."
Pretty simple.
I do that every time I donate.
Maggie
[/QUOTE]Thanks for that Maggie. Thats more clear. I'm not judging anyone here. I'm just weighing things up with scripture and discussing.

I keep going back to this scripture though

Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.

So, as we know the blood belongs to God. The blood makes an atonement for the soul (forgiveness) So those animals were offered up to God and no-one else. This was a holy sacrifice. Even if that animal was not going to be sacrificed we still had to drain the blood before eating, and probably cook well with no blood dripping out. This was a holy commandment. This is clear. Pagans would of drunk blood and used it for their rituals too. God wanted the Israelites to be separate.

We later know that Jesus blood was spilt and offered to God as a sacrifice. It was not offered to anyone else. Only to God. This was the holiest sacrifice ever achieved.

But no-body yet has worked out the comparisons regarding blood from the old testament to the new. There is still a commandment there in the NT regarding blood & something different about it.



 
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law man law, Remember how the Jews were offended by Jesus because of this law, He said you must drink my blood and eat my flesh......pretty much saying not the physical but Spiritual life, they misinterpreted what He was saying.
That post was in reply to protection_retribution. Read the above posts and you will get the point.
 
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Hello Christians

Come on guys, anyone want to tackle this one!

Lets look at antibiotics for example. You can take it in tablet form, liquid, intraveneously, and also from a cream or ointment which penetrates into the skin. Whats the difference how you take it? You are still putting it into your body.

Blood is the same. Whether you eat, drink, or take it in intraveneously. Whats the difference?

I need some answers please.
 
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I'll assume you are aware of the Levitical prohibition on eating blood and that it is carried into the NT in the letter of the apostles to the gentiles in Acts 15. A blood transfusion however is not the same as eating blood. It was commanded that when an animal was slaughtered for food, that's its blood be poured out on the ground, or the person respnsible would be guilty of bloodshed. To eat the blood would be to take the animal's life to yourself, rather than pour it out and consume the lifeless flesh. A blood transfusion however is not taken, but received as a gift. The life is not taken from another, but offered by the donor in order to give life.
Another consideration is that one law may over ride another. As a Jew, born under the law, Jesus was forbidden to work on the Sabbath. Yet He taught that it was lawful to do good on the Sabbath. (Matt 12:9-13) Is it not better to give (and recieve) blood that a life may be saved, than to withhold the gift and allow another to perish?
I only can say AMEN at this posting
 
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break his law, and at the same time pray to him for help???
[/QUOTE]I think this subject is too hard to deal with? When lives are at stake, the flesh takes over. The fear of dying is so great..Many will have to make this choice at some time in their life.

I think we'll just have to sweep this one under the carpet! Pretend it doesn't exist. Ignorance. I'm disappointed that christians are not looking into this. Thank you to the few who answered.

There's going to be a bigger test coming than just blood transfusions. I hope you will be strong in the Lord by then and have more knowledge in Gods will. Be sincere people..put your armour on. Borrowed time is running out. God bless.
 
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Hello Christians

Come on guys, anyone want to tackle this one!

Lets look at antibiotics for example. You can take it in tablet form, liquid, intraveneously, and also from a cream or ointment which penetrates into the skin. Whats the difference how you take it? You are still putting it into your body.

Blood is the same. Whether you eat, drink, or take it in intraveneously. Whats the difference?

I need some answers please.
There is a big difference between eat, drink or take it intravenous. Because to give blood intravenous .. you give some from your life that they will life. And there is no love higher than give something else from you, that an other can live. When you eat or drink blood.. you take the life.. for your live.. But it never gave you live.