Book of Enoch, chapter 6
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I didn't say I believe the Book of Enoch is "scripture". All I'm saying is that there may be some content in it that may not be completely fictitious. It seems that the Bible may be the only historical book that doesn't go in depth about the gods (sons of God) coming to teach man and procreate with the women. Lots of artifacts and writings elude to this and that their offspring are the leaders of old. There are pyramids all over the world and mega structures. People can't just dismiss all this and say, "Well if its not in the Bible, it didn't happen." Greek mythology is rich with stories that parallel these beliefs. The fact is that something came from the heavens and corrupted mankind. The Bible even eludes to this but we don't want to accept it. Either it was left out on purpose or thought to be not necessary. It's almost if we understand the things of God everything becomes less magical and miraculous, so we choose to remain ignorant. I think I must have prayed for understanding and wisdom more than anybody and the Lord has made good on His promise (James 1). I have sought and found. It's like tuning into a radio station in my head where truth comes in like music. Then I fact check everything and it all pans out. If everything that has been filling my head is false then I can't explain how so much provable truth has been realized without study.
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Of course it is not in the KJV because The Scholars who put the KJ V rejected that Book, as well as Book of Macabeezs etc. In other words, it was not recorded by The Men of God The Scholars studied..
Next, The KJV never tells us Moses died in The Wilderness, and never crossed over The Jordan River with Te Children of Israel for disobeying God and Striking The Rock instead Speaking to The Rock for Water to come out so they could drink water..(Numbers 20 verses 8-12) Then later it tells God would never see The Promised land for his disobedience, unto God. And later when Moses died, God himself Buried him so noone could find where he was buried.
Next, The KJV never tells us Moses died in The Wilderness, and never crossed over The Jordan River with Te Children of Israel for disobeying God and Striking The Rock instead Speaking to The Rock for Water to come out so they could drink water..(Numbers 20 verses 8-12) Then later it tells God would never see The Promised land for his disobedience, unto God. And later when Moses died, God himself Buried him so noone could find where he was buried.
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It has not much to do with KJV. It's never been chosen by the Jews to be part of the OT Canon. Actually any books mentioning the realm of dead so obviously will not be accepted as part of the Canon because the Sadducees (and possibly early Levites) dominated the temple court, and they didn't believe such things.
... Chapter 19 from the Book of Enoch ...
And Uriel said to me:
Here shall stand the angels who have connected themselves with women,
and their spirits assuming many different forms are defiling mankind
and shall lead them astray into sacrificing to demons as gods,
(here shall they stand,)
till the day of the Great Judgment in which they shall be judged
till they are made an end of.
Enoch 19.1
And Uriel said to me:
Here shall stand the angels who have connected themselves with women,
and their spirits assuming many different forms are defiling mankind
and shall lead them astray into sacrificing to demons as gods,
(here shall they stand,)
till the day of the Great Judgment in which they shall be judged
till they are made an end of.
Enoch 19.1
Chapter 21 from the Book of Enoch...
Then said Uriel, one of the holy angels, who was with me,
and who was chief over them, and said:
Enoch, why do you ask, and why are you eager for the truth?
These are the number of the stars of heaven,
which have transgressed the commandment of YHVH,
and are bound here till ten thousand years,
the time entailed by their sins, are consummated.
Enoch 21.5-6
Then said Uriel, one of the holy angels, who was with me,
and who was chief over them, and said:
Enoch, why do you ask, and why are you eager for the truth?
These are the number of the stars of heaven,
which have transgressed the commandment of YHVH,
and are bound here till ten thousand years,
the time entailed by their sins, are consummated.
Enoch 21.5-6
Not really man Mat 22:29-31 says
29Jesus replied, “You are mistaken because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.30In the resurrection,people will neither marry nor be given in marriage.Instead,they will be like the angels in heaven.31But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what God said to you:32‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?’ He is not the God of the dead, but of the living.
See the key part there is like "angels in heaven". The fallen angels left heaven and left heaven.
Jude 1:6 6And the angels who did not stay within their own domain, but abandoned their proper dwelling, He keeps under darkness,in eternal chains for judgment on that great day.
So honestly I think that argument kind of falls flat on its face.
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Do you realize how many books can be found in the caves to be named as dead sea scrolls? You sound as if the Jews only wrote 22 books.
You are wrong in that the book of Enoch has never been examined by those who wrote KJV, nor those defined the NT Canon. I simply tried to tell you that you mistakenly thought that the book of Enoch has anything to do with either KJV or the NT Canon.
You are wrong in that the book of Enoch has never been examined by those who wrote KJV, nor those defined the NT Canon. I simply tried to tell you that you mistakenly thought that the book of Enoch has anything to do with either KJV or the NT Canon.
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Wrong & Wrong!! I will state this again: Angels the good ones in heaven or the bad ones in Hell, have no. Ability created by God, to have any sort of sexual encounters with Humans.
God tells us plainly The Married in heaven be like the Angels..we humans will no longer have feelings of arousement for the opposite sex, that is what God, the creator was actually telling us..
God tells us plainly The Married in heaven be like the Angels..we humans will no longer have feelings of arousement for the opposite sex, that is what God, the creator was actually telling us..
Ok, good case made./s I guess you are the final authority on this? I though that was what Genesis said, the "sons of God" looked down and saw the women looked good and wanted to come down to take them as wives. I mean you can just arbitrarily say "wrong, wrong, wrong", but scripture fits the fallen angel thing 10 to 1 better than any other interpretation I've heard yet. Please don't tell me you think the "sons of God" mentioned is the good sons of Seth, then turn around at say this view is ridiculous when "the good sons of Seth" is not what is says AT ALL.
Also can you please back up with scripture where it says "Angels the good ones in heaven or the bad ones in Hell, have no. Ability created by God, to have any sort of sexual encounters with Humans", or at least provide the evidence that brought you to this conclusion. Thanks.
Also can you please back up with scripture where it says "Angels the good ones in heaven or the bad ones in Hell, have no. Ability created by God, to have any sort of sexual encounters with Humans", or at least provide the evidence that brought you to this conclusion. Thanks.
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