Bowing Down to Evil

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TheRealTruth

TheRealTruth

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Does this picture look familiar?


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People unkowingly worship a VERY WICKED MAN. This may be the beast the bible refers to, the man you see in that picture is this man.

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CESARE BORGIA! a VERY WICKED man! the world for HUNDREDS OF YEARS HAVE WORSHIPED A BEAST! Let us take a look at Cesare's history!

HE MURDERED HIS FATHER! HAD INCESTUOUS RELATIONS WITH HIS SISTER! AND KILLED MANY OTHERS! The world unkowingly due to extreme ignorance is condemning themselves heavily, by even having this image on their walls! Everyone who has this image on their walls give respect to a man who was as a ruthless beast! woe unto you who pay tribute to the beast! the bible warns of this! The bible cleary gives his description and this is a far cry from it and the church knows this. Yet they still have the image of this man all over the churches. No wonder so many will be cast into the flame of fires which burneth forever. Having this man on the wall, is the equivalent to having an image of a demon on the wall except he doesn't look as gruesome.
 
schoolofyoungprophet

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I think worshipin the painting itself is a form of idolitry,We are called to worship God in spirt and in truth,not in paintings n any other form of image we create n call it God...
 
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I agree SOYP, as well I am not a facial expert but those two people don't really look alike, lol. and Jesus wasn't likely a blue-eyed white guy.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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More nonsense. People just love to put conspiracy junk in these forums for some reason.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depiction_of_Jesus

The most common depiction of Jesus today was done by Warner Sallman in 1940. Sallman was a Christian who had been converted at sixteen during evangelistic services in Chicago. "My burden of sin and guilt was removed and I shall never forget the thrilling joy of that moment of experiencing God's redeeming grace. Since that time my life has been based on that experience, and has been directed toward serving God in every way."

What REALLY happened was Sallman was told by E. O. Sellers, the night director of Moody Bible Institute, to make a depiction of Jesus in the following way, "...make Him a real man. Make Him rugged, not effeminate. Make Him strong and masculine, not weak, so people will see in his face He slept under the stars, drove the money changers out of the temple, and faced Calvary in triumph.

With his deadline for the painting looming, Sallman saw a vision early one morning of the face he must draw. He went up to his studio and made a sketch. Years later he converted that sketch to a painting--the best-known representation of Christ done in the twentieth century.




This picture of Jesus certainly was not copied off the profile of an evil man as the poster who started this thread falsely stated.

Historically, the depiction of Jesus in art took centuries to reach a conventional standardized form for his physical appearance, which has subsequently remained largely stable since that time and was drawn from many sources over a long period of time. Once the bearded, long-haired Jesus became the conventional representation of Jesus, his facial features slowly began to be standardised, although this process took until at least the 6th century in the Eastern Church, and much longer in the West, where clean-shaven depictions of Jesus are common until the 12th century, despite the influence of Byzantine art.


Also certain local traditions have maintained different depictions they standardized on over time. The Coptic Church of Egypt has a distinctive depiction of Jesus as does the Ethiopian Church where both Jesus and all Biblical figures are depicted as black Africans.


The European depiction of Jesus developed over a long period of time and was drawn from many sources. It was not copied from the profile of a evil man as the author of this thread falsely asserts.

Here's a walk through the historical depictions of Jesus at Belief.net:


http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/2000/05/Images-Of-Jesus-Through-Two-Millennia.aspx

I hope this has been informative. :)
 
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Since the picture of Jesus most scene in the world today was made in 1940 by a Christian man following a Bible instructor's advice, it is ludricious to assert that it was a knock off from a 14th century evil man. What a load of nonsense.
 
TheRealTruth

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AgeofKnowledge said:
Since the picture of Jesus most scene in the world today was made in 1940 by a Christian man following a Bible instructor's advice, it is ludricious to assert that it was a knock off from a 14th century evil man. What a load of nonsense.
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As you can see for some people there is just no hope, they will still willingly have the image of a beast on their walls. The lake of fire is built for such, do not commit such blasphemy and even think in your head that image to be Christ.
 
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... and of course depicting the reality of a Middle Eastern man was unacceptable. Sigh.
 
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If you are talking about the Lord Jesus,every knee shall bow every tounge confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of the allmighty God
 
TheRealTruth

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Also certain local traditions have maintained different depictions they standardized on over time. The Coptic Church of Egypt has a distinctive depiction of Jesus as does the Ethiopian Church where both Jesus and all Biblical figures are depicted as black Africans.


Jesus was dark first of all and so was the Jews. Moses was mistaken for Egyptian so what does that tell you? Stop trying to justify evil by worshiping an evil man on your wall. What is wrong is wrong. There is no way the first image of the Jesus the WORLD knows, was started in 1904 it was WAAY before that. I suggest you do some research before you lead yourself into a place where God warned all man to avoid. If you want to worship the beast then go forth, be foolish and condemn yourself.
 
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Babirusa said:
... and of course depicting the reality of a Middle Eastern man was unacceptable. Sigh.
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but.....approx 90% of jews are light skinned with blue eyes...aren't they?:rolleyes:
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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All I see is you spinning fairytales about a painting a Christian man did at the bequest of his Moody Bible school teacher. You should be ashamed of yourself for putting out such falsehoods, whether or not you are personally deceived.

TheRealTruth said:
As you can see for some people there is just no hope, they will still willingly have the image of a beast on their walls. The lake of fire is built for such, do not commit such blasphemy and even think in your head that image to be Christ.
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AgeofKnowledge

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Jesus was God's son first and foremost. How much melatonin his skin contained might be of utmost importance to racists (like you?) but it really isn't to genuine Christians.

Read the history of the depictions of Jesus I posted and you'll see that artists tended to paint him according to their own societal familiarities. African artists portrayed Christ with blackened skin, Eyptian artists with bronze skin, and European artists with white skin.

The lie you told about the genuine born-again Christian artist's Sallman's depiction of Christ being from an evil 14th century model is pure fabrication as I already shared.

You're thread is a fallacy and you're a fairytale teller.

TheRealTruth said:
Also certain local traditions have maintained different depictions they standardized on over time. The Coptic Church of Egypt has a distinctive depiction of Jesus as does the Ethiopian Church where both Jesus and all Biblical figures are depicted as black Africans.


Jesus was dark first of all and so was the Jews. Moses was mistaken for Egyptian so what does that tell you? Stop trying to justify evil by worshiping an evil man on your wall. What is wrong is wrong. There is no way the first image of the Jesus the WORLD knows, was started in 1904 it was WAAY before that. I suggest you do some research before you lead yourself into a place where God warned all man to avoid. If you want to worship the beast then go forth, be foolish and condemn yourself.
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TheRealTruth

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AgeofKnowledge said:
Jesus was God's son first and foremost. How much melatonin his skin contained might be of utmost importance to racists (like you?) but it really isn't to genuine Christians.

Read the history of the depictions of Jesus I posted and you'll see that artists tended to paint him according to their own societal familiarities. African artists portrayed Christ with blackened skin, Eyptian artists with bronze skin, and European artists with white skin.

The lie you told about the genuine born-again Christian artist's Sallman's depiction of Christ being from an evil 14th century model is pure fabrication as I already shared.

You're thread is a fallacy and you're a fairytale teller.
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I think you should think before you make comments, because it makes you sound extremely unintelligent when you don't. 95% of SO CALLED "blacks" in America are actually bronze. The Jews came in shades of light brown to very dark brown, and Moses himself was mistaken for Egyptian. Here is the true Egyptians known today as the Afar, Sudan etc, dispersed mainly through out Africa.

Egyptians

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Blacks(Hebrew Israelites) I used these three as an example.

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Believe it or not, all these people have BRONZE SKIN!

This is the reason why Moses was mistaken for Egyptian because the Egyptians and the Hebrews resembled each other. No I am not a racist, I am just a truthist. The so call Jesus you see today is Cesare, you have to be very ignorant to think that image of Jesus was first made in 1904, it was made way before hand. Black, Negro, Afro-American is all the by words God knew would come upon the Jews as mentioned in Deuteronomy 28.I don't have time to spare peoples feelings because people are worshiping a man with beastly characteristics, destroying themselves without knowing it. This is the worse form of identity theft known to man, a mere man calling himself King of the world! woe unto you who give tribute to Cesare!
 
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So you are obessed with the melatonin in people's skin to the point you're willing to lie AND not give two cents for retracting the complete fabrication you told regarding Sallman's painting.

Shame on you!

All this anthropological information isn't relevant to the FABRICATION you posted.

The only one I see bowing down is you and in my opinion it's to the idol of racism.

Making up lies to "prove" your racist views is a low-life dishonest thing to do and I don't think you are capable of telling the Real Truth in your current state of mind.
 
TheRealTruth

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AgeofKnowledge said:
So you are obessed with the melatonin in people's skin to the point you're willing to lie AND not give two cents for retracting the complete fabrication you told regarding Sallman's painting.

Shame on you!

All this anthropological information isn't relevant to the FABRICATION you posted.

The only one I see bowing down is you and in my opinion it's to the idol of racism.

Making up lies to "prove" your racist views is a low-life dishonest thing to do and I don't think you are capable of telling the Real Truth in your current state of mind.
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Please tell me, what am I lying about? and how am I racist? Am I racist because I tell the truth? not once did I show hate towards any race(and race does not exist, only nations).
 
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You lied about the widest dispersed depiction of Jesus in the world being modeled after a 14th century evil man. That's a complete fabrication.

You used this lie to make the fallicious assertion that born-again Christians were bowing down to it in idol worship.

Finally, you revealed your true intentions for doing all this by turning it into a racist argument.

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Please tell me, what am I lying about? and how am I racist? Am I racist because I tell the truth? not once did I show hate towards any race(and race does not exist, only nations).
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TheRealTruth

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AgeofKnowledge said:
You lied about the widest dispersed depiction of Jesus in the world being modeled after a 14th century evil man. That's a complete fabrication.

You used this lie to make the fallicious assertion that born-again Christians were bowing down to it in idol worship.

Finally, you revealed your true intentions for doing all this by turning it into a racist argument.
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EVERYBODY knows (or at least should) that, that image was made way before 1904, more like the 1500's. Can you please show me the post, I had posted that supposedly started a racist argument? I am actually clueless as to what you are talking about, regarding me starting a racist argument.
 
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