Cains flippant answer. Maybe not so flippant after all

[4enlightment]

So the blood can produce sound? I thought the gift of tongues or rather the ability to speak was the gift of the Spirit to the spirit in man? Christian theology contradicts that saying the ability to speak has nothing to do with the gift of God. So why did blood cry?

Well, it helps to produce life in the body..

 

[Zmouth]

Genesis 4 Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the Lord I have brought forth a man.” Later she gave birth to his brother Abel.

The King James version of Genesis 4:1 states the following:


And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.




With your version you state with the help of the Lord. My friend's version says the LORD opened the womb of Eve and she conceived. So are you saying that the LORD is the father of Cain? Maybe that is why he let him go if Cain was his son.

 

[Zmouth]

Well, it helps to produce life in the body..

definitely agree with that

 

[granpa]

2 Samuel 10:3 And the princes of the children of Ammon said unto Hanun their lord, Thinkest thou that David doth honour thy father, that he hath sent comforters unto thee? hath not David rather sent his servants unto thee, to search the city, and to spy it out, and to overthrow it?

John 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Psalm 69:20 Reproach hath broken my heart; and I am full of heaviness: and I looked for some to take pity, but there was none; and for comforters, but I found none.

Genesis 2:18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
19 Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. 20 So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals. But for Adam no suitable helper was found.

At first woman were considered as the comforters, and so the only one that Cain could of have been referring to is his wife.

or Sumer or Samaria

 

[Tintin]

Was Cain older than Abel? this would make sense. they were not suppose to watch over their brother?

Yes, Cain was the eldest, then Abel but he was killed by Cain. Adam and Eve's third child, Seth, took on Abel's role.

 

[4enlightment]

The King James version of Genesis 4:1 states the following:


And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.




With your version you state with the help of the Lord. My friend's version says the LORD opened the womb of Eve and she conceived. So are you saying that the LORD is the father of Cain? Maybe that is why he let him go if Cain was his son.

To knew or know is to focus in on something or someone. In generally, it doesn't takes scholar to figure out what was meant. And after she gave birth, she named the man, Cain, In her possession. Abel means vapor and which a vapor has a short life. All through the scriptures, that younger rule over the older.

 

[SolidGround]

what a weird thread. I don't understand at all what is being discussed.

Some people think that Cain didn't really kill Abel?

Some people think that Cain was making a theological/philosophical statement rather than trying to cover his own behind, in the way he responded to God?

Why are all trolls so cryptic? Or are these just people in the throws of confusion?

 

[Zmouth]

Well, it helps to produce life in the body..

1 John 5:7-8
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.


8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.


If they bear witness in earth, isn't man's flesh formed from the dry ground called earth in Genesis 1:10

 

[SolidGround]

So the blood can produce sound? I thought the gift of tongues or rather the ability to speak was the gift of the Spirit to the spirit in man? Christian theology contradicts that saying the ability to speak has nothing to do with the gift of God. So why did blood cry?

What Christian theology are you talking about?

God said that the blood was crying out to Him, in the same way that the blood of the martyrs cries out for vindication. This is an image used many times in Scripture.
Why bring up the gift of tongues?

confusion or just troll?

 

[SolidGround]

1 John 5:7-8
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.


8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.


If they bear witness in earth, isn't man's flesh formed from the dry ground called earth in Genesis 1:10

as you have shown in Scripture, blood bears witness before God.
It does not speak in the physical realm, but the spiritual.

 

[Zmouth]

what a weird thread. I don't understand at all what is being discussed.Some people think that Cain didn't really kill Abel?

Maybe Cain was justified, if the eternal God who says that life shall go for life, then why did he not slay Cain if Cain was guilty of murder.

 

[Tintin]

Maybe Cain was justified, if the eternal God who says that life shall go for life, then why did he not slay Cain if Cain was guilty of murder.

The Mosaic Law came later but yes, murder considered a horrible crime.

 

[SolidGround]

Maybe Cain was justified, if the eternal God who says that life shall go for life, then why did he not slay Cain if Cain was guilty of murder.

you quote Deuteronomy.
this event was before the Law was given.

Also, remember that He has mercy upon whom He has mercy.
What about His judgement do you question?

Why would He slay Cain? He didn't slay Adam or Eve for sinning.

 

[Zmouth]

What Christian theology are you talking about?

God said that the blood was crying out to Him, in the same way that the blood of the martyrs cries out for vindication. This is an image used many times in Scripture.
Why bring up the gift of tongues?

confusion or just troll?

So you asserting that speech has nothing to do with the gift of the Spirit called tongues. Numerous scriptures specifically refer to tongues as language.

 

[Ella85]

How do you know with absolute certainty, where was Adam? which according to Christians already had a sin record.

Who was the witness that saw Cain slay Able?

If God says life shall go for life, why did God violate his own rule?

You are not a Christian.

The only way you will understand is if you are open to the word. It seems as though your posts prove otherwise.

 

[Zmouth]

you quote Deuteronomy.
this event was before the Law was given.

Also, remember that He has mercy upon whom He has mercy.
What about His judgement do you question?

Nothing, Cain was not correct in using that amount of force, but neither did God find fault in Cain for protecting his property from Able grazing his livestock in Cain's field.

 

[Zmouth]

You are not a Christian.

The only way you will understand is if you are open to the word. It seems as though your posts prove otherwise.

So you are now my judge.

 

[Ella85]

So you are now my judge.

I am very good at smelling a rat.

 

[4enlightment]

1 John 5:7-8
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.


8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.


If they bear witness in earth, isn't man's flesh formed from the dry ground called earth in Genesis 1:10

I know the Spirit was with them from the beginning in order to speak of the things that really had happen, the truth; but Cain wasn't referring to his brother's keeper of a spiritual nature, or else he wouldn't have had done it. Remember God wasn't around, and that is why he had done the deed because he had thought that he could get away with murder. But if he had knew about the Holy Spirit, then he would have waited for the Holy spirit to leave as well.

 

[SolidGround]

So you asserting that speech has nothing to do with the gift of the Spirit called tongues. Numerous scriptures specifically refer to tongues as language.

two separate things entirely.

The gift of tongues given by the Spirit is not the common speech of man, but a speech which transcends language barriers.
The languages were divided at the Tower of Babel. That was not a gift, but a curse.

No Scripture says that all forms of speech are the Spirit given gift of "tongues". I don't even understand where you came up with that thought.