Calling Evil Good and Good Evil

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Feb 11, 2012
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Calling Evil Good and Good Evil

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Isa5:20
The Bible paints a Sharp Contrast between the Righteous and the Wicked: A Righteous man declares his honesty openly, But the witness of the unrighteous is deceitful Prov12:10. However this Distinction has been transformed into a hundred shades of gray in the present day Professing Christian Churches. They take great pleasure impugning the Righteous and casting dispersions on the Pure of heart. But this is nothing new among those ‘Wise’ in their own eyes. For foolish and inconsiderate men, who have neither wisdom nor instruction, mock and deride the righteous, being eager to exalt themselves in their own conceits!

David said:They who repaid me evil for good, Slandered me because I pursue Righteousness. And they threw away my love as though it was a stinking corpse!’ Ps37:21. Those who hold forth the Word of life, shining the Light of Reconciliation with God through Repentance and Faith Proven by Deeds, are often despised by the Self-professed Christians who delight in their filthy rags, desperately wicked, wretched salvation in sin refuge. In their minds NONE are Righteous (Rom3:10) nor is there a person on earth who does not sin! (Ecc7:20) In their realm the very idea of a Righteous person doing the Right thing by faith working by love with a heart made Pure by Obedience to the faith is unattainable. They see all ‘Christians’ defiled to the core, but ‘Saved’ by Grace and ‘Covered’ by imputed righteousness.

The deceitfulness of sin, springing up within their hearts has defiled their understanding (Heb12:15) As the Bible says: A person without discernment {between good & evil} persuades himself to mingle with the unruly.’ Prov14:16. That’s why among the incredulous Professed Christians NOTHING is Pure! They see everyone as a mirror image of themselves and anyone who denies it is a Liar.
To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled. They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work. Titus1:15-16
The Righteous have always been Slandered and disdained by the professing religious establishment who persist in sin. Paul said to them; ‘Am I become your enemy by telling you the truth?’ This is often the response from those who use such passages as Rom3:10, Ecc7:20 as an excuse NOT to pursue Purity of heart or Cleansing from inward sin. ‘Who can have a Pure heart or say they are clean from sin’ they will proclaim, as quoting the rhetorical question in Proverbs 20:9, as though Scripture deems human Purity impossible. Yet the Lord Cries loudly; ‘BLESSED are the PURE in heart for they shall SEE God!’ Mt5:8 And ‘Without holiness (purity) NO ONE will see the Lord! Heb12:14

In the Bible the theme is;He who Judges the unrighteous as righteous and the righteous as unrighteous is unclean and an abomination to God’ Prov17:16. BUT isn’t this Exactly what the Fallacy of Transferred (or imputed) Righteousness does to the people who ‘receive’ it as truth? They remain desperately wicked in heart by their own admission and offer God only filthy rags of sin. They live contrary to God’s Commands and call good evil and evil good. The FEAR of the Lord is to HATE Sin! Ps97:10, NOT glory in it as though shameful behavior keeps you humble.

Evil people hate the Wisdom and instruction of God and CHOOSE Not to fear the Lord” Prov1:31. In this Professing Christians are exonerated from wrong doing by the fallacy of ‘inbred’ sin. BUT the Bible says that man sins by the wrong use of his free will, NOT by a corrupt nature within. A person will do evil things with contempt if he ‘believes’ within himself he lacks the ability to resist the deceptions of sin. Prov13:11. This also will cause him to devise evil things and cast them as dispersions on the Righteous. Prov14:22. Thus again to the defiled (in heart) and incredulous by choice NOTHING is Pure!
Scripture assures those who follow the Lord in Purity, Sincerity and Love; ‘All who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution’ 2Tim3:12. From the beginning this has been so, the Professed have always sought Justification in their sins. WHY did Cain slay his brother? Because Abel’s Deeds were Righteous and his evil! (1Jh3:12-13, So do not marvel brethren if the world hates you!) The Lord tells us:

Blessed are you when men hate you, And when they exclude you, And revile you, and cast out your name as evil, For the Son of Man’s sake. Rejoice in that day and leap for joy! For indeed your reward is great in heaven, For in like manner their fathers did to the prophets. Lk6:22-23
Yet in Professing Christian gatherings where everyone is a ‘sinner saved by grace’, admittedly wretched to the core, the exact opposite is true. The World LOVES them and they Love the World! But to their audaciousness the Lord says: Woe to you when all men speak well of you, For so did their fathers to the false prophets. Lk6:26 But they Judge Righteousness (doing what is right) as Un-Righteousness, in their minds----
SELF-Righteousness! If a person with a Purified heart is ‘made sad’ because sin is abounding and excused by the Doctrines of men, they will devise more evil against him and conjure further false Judgments to impugn his character and strengthen the hand of the wicked. Ezk13:22
Because with lies you have made the heart of the righteous sad, whom I have not made sad; and you have strengthened the hands of the wicked, so that he does not turn from his wicked way to save his life.
It’s a LIE to Promise the sinner Peace, healing and prosperity while he stubbornly refused to Cease from evil and Learn to do good! Isa1:16. The Pulpit Pundits keep crying Peace, Peace when there is no Peace in their attempts to slight the sins of the people with words that do not profit. (Jer6:14, 7:8-10) Sins of fornication, adultery, drunkenness, uncleanness and lust abound among them and STILL they Come as ‘the Lord’s own’ and sit before their altars and listen to the lovely songs and pleasurable soothing words believing that nothing evil will come upon them although they refuse to DO what the Lord has Commanded. (Ezk33:31-32, Jer23:17)
They continually say to those who despise Me, The Lord has said, “You shall have peace”And to everyone who walks according to the dictates of his own heart, they say, ‘No evil shall come upon you’.
The Bible Says that Nothing unrighteous can ever be Pleasing to the Righteous Prov14:23. This is why they cannot abide in darkness or condone immoral behavior. SIN is a Reproach to any people, Prov14:14, and those who excuse it have denied the Truth! Quote: ‘To fall is not as grievous as to lie where we have fallen, nor to be wounded so dreadful as after wounds to REFUSE healing’ The Lord asks you to use your human Senses of Sight, Hearing and Understanding to turn be converted to Him that He may HEAL you! Matt13:14-15. In that Man LEARNS to Do Good and seeks after the Light of Understanding through the Spirit of Wisdom, understanding, counsel, might, knowledge, godliness and fear of God. (Isa11:2-3)
By accepting His gracious invitation to forsake your vises and sinful passions and desires in repentance (from which you lack spiritual discernment to know the truth) you will find this Healing with the Crown of Righteousness and keep a Straight Path of understanding and knowledge. (Prov9:5-6, 2Tim4:8, Gal5:24, Rom6:4-6)
Suffering for Righteousness sake is part of Counting the Cost of Discipleship. (Lk14f:28) To the True Saints of God it is considered a Badge of honor to suffer persecution for doing well and it is often at the hands of a Religious Establishment bent on our destruction because we expose their sins. The Bible speaks much of sharing in the suffering of Christ, who was also despised by the entrenched establishment and crucified.
For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake, Phil1:29
And who is he who will harm you if you become followers of what is good? But even if you should suffer for righteousness’ sake, you are blessed. “And do not be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.” But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear; having a good conscience, that when they defame you as evildoers, those who revile your good conduct in Christ may be ashamed. For it is better, if it is the will of God, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil. 1Pet3:13-17
But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ. Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, if, by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from the dead. Phil2:7-11
We Follow in the Steps of the Savior when the Professing Religious establishment World hates us!
If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you, ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. If they kept My word, they will keep yours also. But all these things they will do to you for My name’s sake, because they do not know Him who sent Me. If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin. He who hates Me hates My Father also. If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would have no sin; but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My Father. But this happened that the word might be fulfilled which is written in their law, ‘They hated Me without a cause. Jn15:18-25
Understand that they called the Master Beelzebub so how MUCH more will they call His Servants the same, Matt10:25. Further evidence that the present ‘saved in sin’ establishment is bogus can be seen in what Jesus told His Disciples would happen to them by Preaching the Gospel. (and it certainly has absolutely NO resemblance to the festive religious environment the professed attend to)
Be assured anyone who Preaches the Full Council of God will:
Be hated by the world for His Name’s sake
Persecuted and despised, rejected, ostracized, especially by the Religious establishment
Family members will reject you
They will call you the devil
Proverbs 14:12, 16:25 says there is a way that seems right to man but its end is the way of death. Such is the Wide Road professing Christians take who impugn the character of the Righteous. The Bible says that only ‘sinners’ pursue the righteous in such manner as to find fault in them. (Ps36:32) The works of the Righteous produce LIFE (freedom from sin, purity of heart) only the ungodly produce iniquity, Ps10:17. When you tell people they are saved by Grace yet remain desperately wicked in heart, wretched to the core (sold under sin!) and can never be any better than a pile of filthy rags, you DENY the WORD of God!
For if ‘Christians’ are nothing more than a people addicted to various lust of the flesh the Bible condemns as sin of disqualification, then true Righteousness is a fairy tale and the devil wins! Honestly isn’t sin a reproach on any people as the Bible says? How can anyone of right conscience continue to sit under a Gospel that has produced such sordid results as we see in the present day churches? People are crying out in the misery that sin has wrought in their lives and the Church can only offer them a Magic Cloak and vain prayer that God will clean them up if they faithfully attend their focus groups and read the latest books. NO Redemption, NO Release from Bondage, NO Purging the conscience from the dead works of the flesh; Just a Vain assurance that God has made Provision and understands your struggles.
Paul said such vile things as lust, uncleanness and filthiness of the flesh should NOT EVEN be Named among those who Profess Christ! (Eph5:5-6) YET the addiction to internet Pornography is so rampant among Pastors and professing Christian men that organizations such as Promise Keepers can fill football Stadiums with attendees wallowing in it! NEVER are they told to REPENT, Come Clean, TURN from such things before it destroys their souls in Perdition; Books, CD’s and Hype are NOT going to Save them! It’s a hopeless addiction and vicious circle of repeated failure with the only remedy True Repentance. On top of this you have Professed Christians involved in every Kind of vile and unclean behavior, loving the world, dead toward God, making excuses all day long about inability, sin nature, magic covers, not of works, and the Pastors in full agreement. No Wonder they Call good evil and evil good for they DO things all day long that are HATFUL to God and take Pleasure in themselves and others doing even worse! Genuine Spiritual Discernment is FAR From the Foolish! Prov15:21 www.standingthegap.org
Folly is joy to him who is destitute of discernment, But a man of understanding walks uprightly.
 
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"www.standingthegap.org"

for once Tommy could you post what YOU think supported with scriptures,

and not a huge cut and paste from that website?
 
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Tintin

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Someone please tell me how I can ignore Tommy's incessant cut and paste ramblings!
 

crossnote

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Someone please tell me how I can ignore Tommy's incessant cut and paste ramblings!
Click on his avatar then click on 'add to ignore list'
Tommy is here to 'preach to' and not 'converse with'.
 
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gb9

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yes, if tommy and others would talk with us and not preach at us, and act like we don't know anything and need to be taught, we would not react so strongly. or perhaps that is what they want. hmmmm