Calling on the Lord

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plaintalk

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[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Isthere a contradiction in the Bible?[/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Considerthis: In Matthew 7:21, Jesus says “Not everyone who says to me,‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one whodoes the will of my Father who is in heaven.” Yet Romans 10:13says, “For everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will besaved.” [/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Thecontradiction of sorts is also in the Old Testament. Hosea 8:1-3says, “Set the trumpet to your lips! One like a vulture is over thehouse of the LORD, because they have transgressed my covenant andrebelled against my law. To me they cry, 'My God, we—Israel—knowyou.' Israel has spurned the good; the enemy shall pursue him.” Yet Joel 2:32 says, “And it shall come to pass that everyone who callsupon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” [/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Sowhich is it? Or, is there really a contradiction?[/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Inasmuchas 2 Timothy 3:16 says “ALL Scripture is breathed out by God andprofitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and fortraining in righteousness....”, it would do no good to pick outcertain passages in the Bible without knowing what it says elsewherein the Bible. [/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]So,there are, apparently different ways of calling on the Lord, and notevery way will bring success. To just speak “Lord, Lord,” is notenough to gain God's favor; we must call on the Lord through ouractions. I tell you that those whom the Lord judges to be righteousare calling on Him through their righteousness as expressed in theiractions. On the other hand, those who merely speak God's name whilenot walking in His path must sound like a clanging cymbal to Him,utterly meaningless. And as we are all in God's image, what does theclanging of a cymbal tell us if we were to pass it on the street? Nowords are coming out, therefore in the context of words there is nocommunication.[/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Considerthis: Ephesians 2:8-9 says, “For by grace you have been savedthrough faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,not a result of works, so that no one may boast.” Similarly, Godmakes clear when, as Judges 7:2 says, “The LORD said to Gideon,'The people with you are too many for me to give the Midianites intotheir hand, lest Israel boast over me, saying, “My own hand hassaved me.”'” There are some who say that, based on Ephesians2:8-9, it is not our works that save us, it is our faith in God. Butour faith in God requires some action on our part and such actionimplies works. But it is the works that God has laid out for us todo, that will demonstrate our faith in Him, for it goes on to say, inEphesians 2:10, “For we are his workmanship, created in ChristJesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we shouldwalk in them.”[/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]Whatworks would those be? It would be the works that are in fulfillmentof the two great commandments of Jesus, which sums up the Law and theprophets: That we love God with all our heart soul and mind, and welove eachother as we love ourselves. [/FONT]


[FONT=Calibri, sans-serif]So,to just say “Lord. Lord” without doing the works laid out for uswill not get us saved. But by showing through our actions that wehave accepted the works that God has laid out for us, we are callingon Him and we will thus be saved. [/FONT]
CALLING ON THE NAME OF THE LORD
‘And it shall be that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’ (Acts 2: 21)

On that Pentecost a multitude were told that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
At the end of the day 3,000 souls were added to the number of those being saved. (Acts 2: 41, 47)
Did they call on the name of the Lord? IMO they most certainly did!
When did they call on the name of the Lord? How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? (Rom. 10: 14) This verse tells us that we must hear and believe before we can call on the name of the Lord.
These people on Pentecost believed in verse 37, they heard and were pierced to the heart, they believed (Acts 2: 44) and received the word and were baptized (Acts 2: 41)
What did they ask and do after they believed? They asked, “Brethren, what shall we do?” and they repented in the name of Christ (Luke 24: 47) and they were baptized in the name of Christ (Acts 2: 38) Please note they were not forgiven and saved at the first moment of faith.
How do we call on the name of the Lord? By repenting and being baptized in His name for the forgiveness of sin.
God bless.
 

plaintalk

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Jul 20, 2015
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Calling ON THE NAME OF THE LORD

As we look at various passages, we can begin to piece together more information about calling on the name of the Lord.
(1) We have learned that it follows coming to faith. (Rom. 10: 14)
(2) Thus, it refutes the idea that salvation is given at the first moment of faith because if we are saved by calling on the name of the Lord and if the calling follows faith, then obviously we can’t be saved at the first moment of faith.
(3) Calling on the name of the Lord is not a prayer for faith.

When Saul of Tarsus, the Apostle Paul, was converted, he prayed and fasted for three days, yet when Ananias came to him Paul was still in his sin. He arose and was baptized to wash away his sin, having called upon the name of the Lord. (Acts 22: 16) This one first should be enough to teach us about calling on the name of the Lord. Thanks to mailmanDan for pointing out that “calling” is a past participle; of course it does not change the meaning at all, Paul did initially pray and fast but initially forgiveness is not received in that way.

(4) We learn that baptism does indeed wash away our sins because when we obey the Lord, He sprinkles us with the blood of Christ, cleansing our conscience from sin. (1 Peter 1: 1,2, Heb. 9: 14; 10: 22)
(5) We learn that when we are baptized, we have called upon the name of the Lord for forgiveness.
(6) We conclude that the “sinners prayer” is a fiction, created by the imagination of man about 1700 to 1800 years to late. Surely if we are initially forgiven by praying alone, Paul would have been forgiven after praying and fasting for three days and nights. We do not want to diminish in any way the necessity of children of God, to confess to God and pray for forgiveness of sin. (1 John 1: 9)
(7) Baptism is an appeal to God to receive a good conscience as he has promised. (1 Peter 3: 21)
God bless.
 
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Isthere a contradiction in the Bible?
Considerthis: In Matthew 7:21, Jesus says “Not everyone who says to me,‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one whodoes the will of my Father who is in heaven.” Yet Romans 10:13says, “For everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will besaved.”
Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Gal 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Gal 5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Gal 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Gal 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

1Co 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

If a person hates sin, and does not want sin, by the Spirit they can abstain from sin, so there is no excuse because a person can have the same Spirit as Jesus to help them to overcome sin.

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

2Ti 3:4 lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Luk 6:40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

Mat 10:25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?

This is what seals the saints, that everyone that calls on the Lord depart from iniquity by the Spirit.

For if you call on the name of the Lord you should want to be like Him by the Spirit, which Jesus said the disciples can be as their Master.

But not everyone who confesses Christ wants to abstain from sin, for they hold unto sin and believe they are still right with God despite their sins.

When they sin they enjoy the sin, for if they did not enjoy the sin they would not do the sin, and if they enjoy the sin then they do it on purpose.

They do not try to beat some sins but enjoy them regularly, and do the sins on purpose, and then think they are still right with God, or they cannot abstain from sin.

But it is only an excuse, and there is no excuse.

So not everybody that says Lord, Lord, will be saved, for many do not want to be as their Master enjoying some sins, and having an excuse for sinning.