Can a being have two different wills or does two different wills mean two different beings?

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Sorry CL, but 2ndTim has made that comment on several threads and I'm tired of him.
You do see that I tried to politely engage him, right?
 
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We see in Romans 7 that Paul talks about internal conflict and a competition of wills.

The metacognitive model of ambivalence has good value when approaching this: https://academic.oup.com/ct/article/25/1/23/4061179

If that model is correct, it easily resolves questions about the Trinity and why God the Father knows more than God the Son while still being one.
 

Gideon300

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After reading the entire Bible several times, and after keeping track of verses that relate to this topic, I came to the conclusion that a person does either the will of the Devil (prior to Purification) or the Will of the Father (post Purification).

If we are under the Adamic Curse, the Curse of which Jesus relieves His Elect from, part of that Curse means to be handed over to Satan to live out his unholy will. After Christ Circumcises a person's heart of that "Mind of the Devil," a person is then Enabled to do the Will of the Father.

However, now that I consider it, and if what I am offering above it True, how would we explain our sin even after Spiritual Circumcision? This would indicate that human free will is, in fact, a strong possibility unless I were to suggest that it was the Will of the Father that I sin.

Huh . . . I may have just convinced myself that free will is possible if not likely.
The problem is with the definition of free. We are not robots. Someone may consider stealing and decide not to. Soldiers have given their lives to save comrades. Many do this knowing the consequences. It's a choice.

Satan would have us believe that we are preprogrammed puppets. We just do what we are hard wired to do. That's false. At the same time, we know what we should do, but often don't do it. So I reckon we have conditional free will. Which sounds like a paradox to me.
 
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Can a being have two different wills or does two different wills mean two different beings? I'm asking in reference to Luke 22: 42.
How many Beings Exist in the Godhead??? is your answer
 
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We see in Romans 7 that Paul talks about internal conflict and a competition of wills.

The metacognitive model of ambivalence has good value when approaching this: https://academic.oup.com/ct/article/25/1/23/4061179

If that model is correct, it easily resolves questions about the Trinity and why God the Father knows more than God the Son while still being one.
Without the Whole Picture of Scripture from the Artist known as the Holy Spirit, we leave ourselves half filled.

Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus:

Who, existing in the form of God,

did not consider equality with God

something to be grasped,

but emptied Himself,

taking the form of a servant,

being made in human likeness.

And being found in appearance as a man,

He humbled Himself

and became obedient to death—

even death on a cross.
 

John146

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In Luke 22: 42 Jesus prays " Saying , Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me; nevertheless, not my will , but thine, be done.
For the believer, we have at least three: good, acceptable, and perfect.

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.