Can a Gay person be a True Christian?

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joaniemarie

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Nah. If someone gets ragged off with you and shouts at you, you can make up and be friends within a few hours, sometimes a few minutes.

If someone tries to sodomize you, you would probably try to kill them. I doubt you would talk to them again.





Both sins lead to more sin and death. If another person causes you to be blind, or kills your son, or if a person lies about you and over a time it ruins your reputation how quickly are you to forgive? when you lose family, friends, jobs., all you own or can own? All sin will lead to more sin if it isn't remedied. All sin needs the same blood.

hate, jealousy, homosexuality, lying stealing, envy, maliciousness etc....all kill and destroy so satan deceives and temps us to 'sin' so he can kill steal and destroy us. he can't do this unless he lies by deceiving us.

AND he deceives MANY believers every day.

That is why we are warned to not be ignorant of his devices. If a Christian doesn't see their sin the same as any sin they don't understand how far reaching sin is and why it took God Himself to provide our way out.




 
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oh how it hurts the Spirit when one claims that they are 'righteous', not matter what they do,
if they call themselves a 'christian'...

this is right akin to satan's deception, telling them that 'God has not said'...
 
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It takes true humility to say what God says about you is true in Christ - because of what His Son has done for us.

Beholding the Lord as in a mirror for who He really is and thus we see ourselves in Him and we are transformed by the Holy Spirit to reflect outwardly what He has made us when He joined us as one spirit with Him. 2 Cor. 3:17-18. & 1 Cor. 6:17

This is God's dynamic for releasing the exchanged life that is in us in our new creation in Christ.

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mcubed

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Can a liar be truly saved, even though on of the things G-d says He specifically hates is a liar? Can a “slut” that has premarital sex be truly saved if it’s heterosexual? Can a disrobement child be truly saved when Y-shua said if you love me keep my commandments?......


Do you know what all these people have in common with a gay person if they are truly saved?.... THEY ARE CONVICTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!!!!!!! And they will be delivered liars, delivered sluts, delivered unto obedience to G-d’s Laws (for the people who don’t like the word law… commandments) …. ((Those people will be delivered too…lol)) and delivered homosexuals.

If anyone is in sin and is not convicted of that sin then it is a right question to ask are they saved!!!
 

blessedjohn80

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The goal of our instruction is the love that comes from a pure heart, a clear conscience, and a sincere faith. Some have strayed from these ways and turned aside to empty talk. They want to be teachers of the Law, but they do not understand what they are saying or that which they so confidently assert.


Now we know that the Law is good, if one uses it legitimately. We realize that law is not enacted for the righteous, but for the lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinful, for the unholy and profane, for killers of father or mother, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, for homosexuals, for slave traders and liars and perjurers, and for anyone else who is averse to sound teaching that agrees with the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has strengthened me, that He considered me faithful and appointed me to service. I was formerly a blasphemer, a persecutor, and a violent man; yet because I had acted in ignorance and unbelief, I was shown mercy. And the grace of our Lord overflowed to me, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus.

This is a trustworthy saying, worthy of full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the worst. But for this very reason I was shown mercy, so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display His perfect patience, as an example to those who would believe in Him for eternal life. Now to the King eternal, immortal, and invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

- 1 Timothy 5-17

If gays cannot be a Christian then no sinner can too. Sinners come to Jesus to be righteous before God and not become righteous before God first then come to Jesus.

-Peace
 

Rondonmon

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Can a liar be truly saved, even though on of the things G-d says He specifically hates is a liar? Can a “slut” that has premarital sex be truly saved if it’s heterosexual? Can a disrobement child be truly saved when Y-shua said if you love me keep my commandments?......


Do you know what all these people have in common with a gay person if they are truly saved?.... THEY ARE CONVICTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!!!!!!! And they will be delivered liars, delivered sluts, delivered unto obedience to G-d’s Laws (for the people who don’t like the word law… commandments) …. ((Those people will be delivered too…lol)) and delivered homosexuals.

If anyone is in sin and is not convicted of that sin then it is a right question to ask are they saved!!!
Not as long as they continue to deny lying or whore-mongering are sins. How can you be forgiven for that which you refuse to admit is a sin. Anyone that continues in sin willfully is not a follower of Christ Jesus. You thinking one can continue in sin and make heaven is preposterous.
 

p_rehbein

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Can a gay person be a true Christian? Yes. Just as any other sinner can be a true Christian. They must recognize their sinful life style, confess their sins, ask Christ to forgive them of their sins, and be washed in the cleansing blood of Christ, reborn, and refrain from engaging in any sinful acts after their rebirth in Christ. Every other sinner must do the same.

Goodness.......people act as if homosexuality is an unpardonable sin........it IS NOT. Any sinner must die to sin, their sinful lifestyle, and when reborn, live for Christ. The Apostle Paul was guilty of Accessory to Murder of Christians when he was called by Christ. If his sins could be forgiven, pretty much anyone's sins can be forgiven.
 
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Can a gay person be a Christian? Is a very misleading statement in the context of your post. A gay person cannot be a Christian because by definition a gay person is one who is practicing same gender sex and a person cannot be practicing same gender sex and be a Christian at the same time. You went on to explain that you were saying a homosexual can be saved and that is true, however a saved homosexual is not a homosexual anymore but is now a child of God.
 
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being gay it is when you are possessed by an evil spirit,you cant be in Christ and you remain the same you cant have the nature of god and remain the same.Thats why the Bible says come as you are if u are a drunkard,thief,killer,rapist still you are accepted to come in the house of the Lord and worship because God knows that He will change your attitude.If you dont come to a point of understanding that you got a problem and you need help then the chances of going to the wrong place are High. Proverbs 14;12 it might seem right but leading the person to the wrong place
 

blue_ladybug

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Being gay is NOT the result of being possessed by an evil spirit. It's the result of warped and perverted thinking.. JMO
 

Bladerunner

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Can a liar be truly saved, even though on of the things G-d says He specifically hates is a liar? Can a “slut” that has premarital sex be truly saved if it’s heterosexual? Can a disrobement child be truly saved when Y-shua said if you love me keep my commandments?......


Do you know what all these people have in common with a gay person if they are truly saved?.... THEY ARE CONVICTED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!!!!!!! And they will be delivered liars, delivered sluts, delivered unto obedience to G-d’s Laws (for the people who don’t like the word law… commandments) …. ((Those people will be delivered too…lol)) and delivered homosexuals.

If anyone is in sin and is not convicted of that sin then it is a right question to ask are they saved!!!


Have not read this whole thread,, but just this last page and got down to this post by 'mcubed'.

There is no doubt that if ask the Lord for forgiveness, you repent (acknowledge) your sins to HIM and accept HIM as your savior, then YES a Gay person can be saved.

Having said that, the 'Falling away' is the Apostasy of people who believe in Christ but have turned away from him in one way or the other.

The big question is: Can one live in 24-7 SIN and still be saved at the SAME time. NO

 

Dai3234

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In my opinion it's similar to smoking. But the difference is I'm a person that doesn't want to smoke, but smokes anyway. I repent of my sins and ask forgiveness through Christ. A practising homosexual can be saved if they don't want to be a homosexual and ask for forgiveness for it, meaningfully. Even if they continue through weakness to practice afterwards. As long as they repent. If not, most likely they may not be forgiven. As you cannot serve 2 masters. Repent of all evil or not. There is no halfway. But I may be wrong. The trinity know for sure. I'm only trying to interpret withWhatever we have.
 

Chester

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No he was not born Gay. He became Gay because of Sexual abuse done on him by an adult male. He is not active as far as i can see.

There is no Professional counseling that i know of that can change a person from Gay to straight.
Just get him born again by the power of the Spirit of God - that is a lot better than "professional counseling". Becoming straight is not a requirement to be born again, but the person truly born again will find homosexuality incompatible with the Spirit of God living in them.
 

Bladerunner

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In my opinion it's similar to smoking. But the difference is I'm a person that doesn't want to smoke, but smokes anyway. I repent of my sins and ask forgiveness through Christ. A practising homosexual can be saved if they don't want to be a homosexual and ask for forgiveness for it, meaningfully. Even if they continue through weakness to practice afterwards. As long as they repent. If not, most likely they may not be forgiven. As you cannot serve 2 masters. Repent of all evil or not. There is no halfway. But I may be wrong. The trinity know for sure. I'm only trying to interpret withWhatever we have.
If they truly wanted to change they could!...If they truly have accepted Jesus as their savior, the Holy Spirit would take this sickness of their away from them.

Homosexuality is not genetic,,,it is learned lifestyle. Unlike smoking that is addictive, lifestyles can be changed and if they really truly take the Lord Jesus as their savior, they would be no longer homosexuals.


 

john832

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But what if the person never chose to be Gay in the first place? What if because of something in his life that cause him to be Gay, can he still be a Christian or is he doomed for life to spend eternity in Hell because he cannot change who he is?
So, you believe that God condemns one who cannot repent of an action?

Homosexuality is a sin that can be repented of just like lying or stealing.
 

john832

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wait, most believes here say they are not under the law, they are under grace.
so why would it matter?
Being not under the means one can do anything they wish? It means not under the penalty of the Law.
 

john832

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It doesn't matter; they're saved by grace.
How about a date with your wife? By the way, are you going to be home tonight? I might want to come around and steal all your possessions.

See how dumb this argument is?
 

john832

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How?????? My friend needs answers.
By repenting of sin and throwing himself on the mercy of the court...

Luk 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
 

john832

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I don't know who your asking but I proclaim that faith in Jesus overrides our sins.
Jas 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Jas 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?