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"Surnames didn't exist in Jesus' day.
People typically referred to somebody by referring to their parentage. So Jesus would have most likely been referred to as "Jesus son of Joseph" or "Jesus son of Mary", much in the same way as Peter was referred to as "Simon, son of Jonah" in Matthew 16:17 and "James son of Zebedee" in Mark 3:17.
While nobody is entirely sure when the concept of the proper surname began, one guess, at least for English speakers, is around the 13th or 14th century." -Taken from the link
Does Jesus have a last name? - Christianity Stack Exchange
2 Chronicles 20:13 As all the men of Judah stood before the LORD with their little ones, wives, and children,14 the Spirit of the LORD came upon one of the men standing there. His name was Jahaziel son of Zechariah, son of Benaiah, son of Jeiel, son of Mattaniah, a Levite who was a descendant of Asaph.
People typically referred to somebody by referring to their parentage. So Jesus would have most likely been referred to as "Jesus son of Joseph" or "Jesus son of Mary", much in the same way as Peter was referred to as "Simon, son of Jonah" in Matthew 16:17 and "James son of Zebedee" in Mark 3:17.
While nobody is entirely sure when the concept of the proper surname began, one guess, at least for English speakers, is around the 13th or 14th century." -Taken from the link
Does Jesus have a last name? - Christianity Stack Exchange
2 Chronicles 20:13 As all the men of Judah stood before the LORD with their little ones, wives, and children,14 the Spirit of the LORD came upon one of the men standing there. His name was Jahaziel son of Zechariah, son of Benaiah, son of Jeiel, son of Mattaniah, a Levite who was a descendant of Asaph.
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Acts 10:18 And called, and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there.
Do you mean last names?
Says surname up there and in a few places.
Jesus did not have a last name.
Jesus son of Joseph, son of God, and by location, Jesus of Nazareth
First names seem to work
And Jesus seemed okay with the whole user name thing since he passed out a few of them.
I would probaly call dibs on "the daughter of lightning"
(well, since the sons of thunder are taken)
Do you mean last names?
Says surname up there and in a few places.
Jesus did not have a last name.
Jesus son of Joseph, son of God, and by location, Jesus of Nazareth
First names seem to work
And Jesus seemed okay with the whole user name thing since he passed out a few of them.
I would probaly call dibs on "the daughter of lightning"
(well, since the sons of thunder are taken)
The names of Mary as they are called in the NT
Mary, mother of Jesus;
Mary Magdalene,
Mary, mother of James and Joses;
(Mary) Salome (who is also identified as the mother of James and Joseph the sons of Zebedee),
Mary of Clopas,
Mary of Bethany, sister of Lazarus
The James of James as they are called in the same
There is James, the brother of John, the sons of Zebedee whom he surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder
There is James, the brother of Jude (sometimes called Joses), the sons of Alphaeus
There is a James who was half-brother to Jesus
There was a James who was the father of Judas (not Judas Iscariot)
No last names (and they all managed, imagine that)
Maybe at that point in time, usernames were making their way into society as men multiplied on earth, as you can see it was getting a little hairy there.
In that, I suppose Jesus could be perceived as a trend setter in names that way.
But it seems to be predicted, where one could surname themselves, see?
Isaiah 44:5 One shall say, I am the LORD'S; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe with his hand unto the LORD, and surname himself by the name of Israel
Theres an allowance, one seems to be made that they would just call themsleves by names of their own choices.
A secret name here too
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Its 4 AM I'm beat and going to bed, good night.
God bless all on this thread.
Mary, mother of Jesus;
Mary Magdalene,
Mary, mother of James and Joses;
(Mary) Salome (who is also identified as the mother of James and Joseph the sons of Zebedee),
Mary of Clopas,
Mary of Bethany, sister of Lazarus
The James of James as they are called in the same
There is James, the brother of John, the sons of Zebedee whom he surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder
There is James, the brother of Jude (sometimes called Joses), the sons of Alphaeus
There is a James who was half-brother to Jesus
There was a James who was the father of Judas (not Judas Iscariot)
No last names (and they all managed, imagine that)
Maybe at that point in time, usernames were making their way into society as men multiplied on earth, as you can see it was getting a little hairy there.
In that, I suppose Jesus could be perceived as a trend setter in names that way.
But it seems to be predicted, where one could surname themselves, see?
Isaiah 44:5 One shall say, I am the LORD'S; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe with his hand unto the LORD, and surname himself by the name of Israel
Theres an allowance, one seems to be made that they would just call themsleves by names of their own choices.
A secret name here too
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Its 4 AM I'm beat and going to bed, good night.
God bless all on this thread.
This is what you get for reading KJV, which is often translated wrong!
"and called out to ask whether Simon who was called Peter was lodging there." Acts 10:18 ESV
"καὶ φωνήσαντες ἐπυνθάνοντο εἰ Σίμων ὁ ἐπικαλούμενος Πέτρος ἐνθάδε ξενίζεται." Acts 10:18 Greek
The key word in Greek is ἐπικαλούμενος or epikaloumenos. It is an Aorist middle participle (nominative masculine Singular) It is It comes from the lexical form epikaleo, which means "being called upon, being called" in the middle. Bauer (BDAG) which uses KJV as a starting point because it is well over 100 years old, mentions Acts 10:18 and compares it directly to Matt 10:25 which translates it thus:
"who is called."
No "surname," as they did not exist in Judea at that time. You might want to try NASB or ESV if you want translations which have fewer obvious errors.
"and called out to ask whether Simon who was called Peter was lodging there." Acts 10:18 ESV
"καὶ φωνήσαντες ἐπυνθάνοντο εἰ Σίμων ὁ ἐπικαλούμενος Πέτρος ἐνθάδε ξενίζεται." Acts 10:18 Greek
The key word in Greek is ἐπικαλούμενος or epikaloumenos. It is an Aorist middle participle (nominative masculine Singular) It is It comes from the lexical form epikaleo, which means "being called upon, being called" in the middle. Bauer (BDAG) which uses KJV as a starting point because it is well over 100 years old, mentions Acts 10:18 and compares it directly to Matt 10:25 which translates it thus:
"who is called."
No "surname," as they did not exist in Judea at that time. You might want to try NASB or ESV if you want translations which have fewer obvious errors.
""""I dunno - this whole thread makes me suspicious .... why are you trying so hard to get everyone to submit their real and full names?
The scripture is what is important - not the one who quotes it ..."""
The scripture is what is important - not the one who quotes it ..."""
Just trying to save people a real bad time on judgment day like caring people do. The one who quotes it is important. Even the devil disguises himself as an angel of light.
Those he was speaking of showed up in their own names (without online use names)
You arent gaurenteed anything with someone coming in their own name anyway
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not:
if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
It doesnt make anything truer for anyone doing so in circles such as this
You arent gaurenteed anything with someone coming in their own name anyway
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not:
if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
It doesnt make anything truer for anyone doing so in circles such as this
Hebrews 5:14 But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil.
Mark 13:22 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
You have to be discerning. But one thing is for sure is you don't want to listen to a preacher who can't be held accountable for his/her words and actions.
Mark 13:22 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
You have to be discerning. But one thing is for sure is you don't want to listen to a preacher who can't be held accountable for his/her words and actions.