Can the elect of God ever be unborn again?

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Aaron56

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And just like us they were never worthy either. That's the BIG part your side of this debate NEVER seem to consider, we are all going to hell outside of His grace. God doesn't have to chose anyone for hell. That where we are all going, so the dilemma you try to make asking us about who God choses for hell is faulty from the jump. It's a false premise and completely invalidates any points that follow it.
Yes! We all start in the same place.
 

Aaron56

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What do we think the 1000 years reign of Christ with Satan bound is for? A big party?
I mean, why a 1000 years? That's a long time. It's a time without the influence of the evil one in the earth. Presumably it will take some of you a long time to conform to Christ.:sneaky:
 

ocean

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Because he is trying to trip you and your ideology up to make his seem supreme. At least that's the conclusion I've come to concerning this group that only likes beating this one dead hoarse into a puddle day in and day out (bad thing is it's an enemy of their own creation, at least on this site). To be honest his name isn't one of the "group" I'm speaking of, but his questions are quickly leading me to believe he is trying to protect the world from a very specific self perceived heresy, and it's all up to them to find, label, and tell the people first, what they believe, and you heard that right, the group I speak of does not need to bother asking what you believe or listen to what you tell them you believe, but they will let you know what you believe and then will destroy "your" beliefs with great prejudice, and all in the name of being a Holy protector of Gods word.

I could be wrong about him specifically because I can't say I've had him do this to me personally, plus he's been here only a week, it could be one of them, but to be fair I just recognize the pattern of questions well enough to say that this is what I believe is the point here.
Well give him a chance then. :)
 
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elect (MT 24:22,24&31) = disciples (MT 28:7-8,13,16&19) = reborn (JN 3:3&7) = believers (JN 3:16, 5:24, 6:35-40 & 20:29) = saints (ACTS 9:32, RM 1:7, 8:27) = Christians (ACTS 11:26, 26:28) = saved (ACTS 16:30-31) = those in Christ (RM 8:1, EPH 1:1-13) = Spirit-led (RM 8:2-16) = children/sons/heirs of God (RM 8:14-21) = sanctified/church member (1CR 1:2) = God's people (1CR 16:1) = church/saints (2CR 1:1 = the faithful/holy (EPH 1:1, PHP 1:2) = chosen in Christ (EPH 1:4-11) = members of God's household (EPH 2:19) = soldier/worker (PHL v.2&24)
Oh, insert "the grafted in (RM 11:17-24)" after the RM 8 passages.