There are people that believe OSAS is true, that they cannot fall from grace.
And then some people say a person can fall from grace if they do not do right, being led of the Spirit, which in other words do not be a hypocrite holding unto sin.
It is not really saved by works, but it is allow the Spirit to lead you, and do the works of the Spirit, which we know only a Spirit led life is saved.
Which there is no excuse for sin, or hypocrisy, for a Spirit led life will not fulfill the lusts of the flesh, for they have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts, and will show the ways of the Spirit, which no ways of the flesh are there.
And God will not allow them to be tempted above what they are able, and will give them an escape from the temptation, so they can endure it.
The Bible says the Lord knows them that are His having this seal, for this is what seals the saints, and how they are led of the Spirit, that everyone that names the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
And God said do not be like those in the wilderness that was rebellious by departing from the living God, by the deceitfulness of sins.
The OSAS people say they cannot abstain from sin, and they sin daily, and sin does not affect their relationship with God, but this is not a true statement for if they hate sin, and do not want sin, they can abstain from sin.
So it appears as if they do not hate sin, and want sin, which then they are not led of the Spirit, for if they say they cannot abstain from sin then they testify against themselves that they do sin, and do not cease from sin, for they say they cannot abstain from sin.
But the Bible says that if a person wilfully sins, holds unto sin, after having the knowledge of the truth that God hates sin, and does not want us to sin, then there is no more sacrifice for that sin, which means the blood of Jesus cannot take it away.
So the OSAS are incorrect in their interpretation of this matter, and the people that believe you have to abstain from sin are correct.
Strike 1 for OSAS.
The OSAS believes that God chooses who will be saved, and not saved, in the beginning without the choice of the person.
But then that would mean God's kingdom is not true love, for they only accepted the truth for they had no choice seeing no other alternative, and God is not evil to condemn people that have no choice but to reject the truth seeing no other alternative.
Which it goes against the nature of God, which a saint should understand the nature of God.
Also if OSAS is true then their faith is not real, their hope is not real, their love is not real, their confession of Christ is not real, their repenting of their sins is not real, for it did not come from them but God.
Also the Bible says that God commands all people to repent, and to come to the knowledge of the truth, and be saved, and Jesus lights every person that is born in to this world, which all people have the opportunity to see the light of Jesus and be saved, and the Spirit and the bride say Come, and anybody can have that salvation, and the Lord is not willing that any perish, but all come to the truth and be saved.
Also the Bible says for many are called, but few are chosen, which means God does the calling and choosing on earth, and if God chose in the beginning then why is He calling people that cannot be chosen.
God chose us we did not choose Him, for when He calls a person He will work with them to get them to the truth, but they have to make the choice to walk through the door, which many do not get that far, which is why many are called, but few are chosen.
Which walking through the door of truth means acknowledging that God hates sin, and to abstain from sins by the Spirit.
But some have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof, ever learning and never able to come the knowledge of the truth, and it points out their sins, for they are lovers of pleasures, things of the world, more than lovers of God.
God does the calling and choosing on earth, and He chose us we did not choose Him, for when God calls a person they could of never gotten to the door of truth, unless God intervened in their life, but they have to make the choice to walk through that door for God's kingdom is love.
So God wants all people to be saved, and calls and chooses people on earth, so OSAS seems to be incorrect, and the people that believe you must abstain from sins to be saved is correct.
Strike 2 for OSAS.
The Bible says love works no ill towards their neighbor, therefore love is the fulfilling of the law, and Jesus said to the disciples a new commandment I give you that you love each other as I have loved you.
And Paul said we do not void out the law through faith, but we establish the law, and the law is spiritual, holy, just, and good, the laws of love, moral laws.
Out of faith, hope, and charity, love in action, charity is the greatest, and faith works by love, so no love then no faith.
Paul said that charity thinks no evil, does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth to abstain from sins, and is not unkind, not selfish, not arrogant, and only goes by their needs, and not their wants, and to help the poor and needy if possible.
But we see many people that believe OSAS believing in the prosperity Gospel, and enjoying money, and material things, for their wants, but then that neglects the poor and needy, which is not love, and love is the fulfilling of the law, which Paul said we establish the law.
Paul said he could have all faith as to remove mountains, but if he did not have charity then he is nothing.
Paul said if someone preaches that God blesses with money, and material things, for their wants, withdraw yourselves from them, having food, and clothing, be content.
For the love of money is the root of all evil and they have erred from the faith, for it neglects the poor and needy, which is how God created the world to operate by people loving each other, and love is the fulfilling of the law.
James pointed out charity, that it they did not have charity by caring about the poor and needy, then their faith is dead.
So Paul and James are saying the same thing to have charity, and if not then their faith does not apply, for they neglect the poor and needy, and fall short of love, which love is greater than faith.
No love, no faith.
They argue not saved by works, saved by works, all the while Paul and James are saying the same thing.
Which John said the same thing that if they do not have charity then the love of God does not dwell in them, so do not love in word and tongue, but love in deed and in truth.
So the OSAS people believe the prosperity Gospel, and go by their wants, and neglect the poor and needy, which we see in society, and their works do not matter towards their salvation, but if they do not do the works then they are not led of the Spirit.
Which in Revelation Jesus addressed the first Church and said they left their first love, and to repent, and do the first works, and addressed the fifth Church and said He did not find their works perfect before God, and to repent and do the works, or they have no salvation.
So the OSAS people would be incorrect, while the people that say they have to abstain from sins, and do works are correct, for to neglect those works you would deny being led of the Spirit.
It is not "saved by works", but being led of the Spirit and doing those works, and love, for a person not led of the Spirit is not saved, but we see among the OSAS people neglect in true love by going by their wants, and saying they do not have to do works, and saying they cannot abstain from sins.
Strike 3 for the OSAS.
Many are called, but few are chosen, so OSAS cannot be true, for if it were then God would only work in the lives of those He chose, so why would God be working in the lives of people that cannot be chosen.
If OSAS is true then consider this, and the OSAS people would have to leave the people alone, and not bother them, that believe they have to abstain from sins to have salvation.
No person can say Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
But many that believe abstain from sins, do works, believe this, so why is God working in their lives if they were not chosen in the beginning.
Peter said that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, which flesh and blood did not reveal that to him but the Father.
But many that do not believe OSAS believe this, so why is God working in their life if they were not chosen in the beginning.
Any person that says Jesus is come in the flesh is of God.
But many that do not believe OSAS believe Jesus is come in flesh.
No person comes to the Son unless the Father draws them.
But many people that do not believe OSAS accept Jesus as their Savior.
So if OSAS always saved is true, then those that do not believe OSAS, and that a person has to abstain from sins, and sin does affect their relationship with God, and to do works, would have to be saved too despite them not believing OSAS, and to have works, for God would only work in the lives of those He chose.
But we have a choice in our salvation for many are called, but few are chosen, and Jesus said not everyone that says Lord, Lord, will be saved.
But God did call the OSAS people, and working in their lives, for they confess those things, but they have to come to the truth that they can abstain from sins, and sin does affect their relationship with God, and have the proper perspective of love.
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