Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Well you can think that there is a difference in being arrogant and being confident when it comes to spiritual matters ----
In scripture, "arrogant" refers to an inflated sense of self-importance, often accompanied by a desire to look superior to others,
while "confident" signifies a genuine belief in one's abilities rooted in a humble understanding of one's strengths,
In scripture, "arrogant" refers to an inflated sense of self-importance, often accompanied by a desire to look superior to others,
while "confident" signifies a genuine belief in one's abilities rooted in a humble understanding of one's strengths,
Freedom is never unfettered or unrestricted. It is bound by the character/nature of the one who is willing. God desires all men to be saved but His nature is one of perfect integrity and therefore will not compromise with His own word on the matter in that, He will save believers, He will not save unbelievers even though He desires they choose life.
It's not only not perfect, it is not even close. There can be no freedom without authority. Lack of authority results in chaos, not freedom.
It's not only not perfect, it is not even close. There can be no freedom without authority. Lack of authority results in chaos, not freedom.
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Your wrong.. Your definition is wrong..
Free will is simply the ability of a person to make their own choice.. Just because our decisions are influenced by restrictions like consequences and the expressed desires of outsiders does not mean we lose the ability to make our own decisions..
Free will has never been the ability to make a choice without the prospect of any adverse consequences..
For example if i was a murderer and i wanted to kill you.. I would face the possibility of getting arrested and be executed by the death penalty.. Would those possible consequences prevent me from deciding to kill you? If i did not care if i lived or died then such society imposed restrictions would not prevent me from deciding to kill you.. People can and do still make their own free will decisions they simply make their own mental calculations as to the possible benefits and costs of competing decisions..
Free will is simply the ability of a person to make their own choice.. Just because our decisions are influenced by restrictions like consequences and the expressed desires of outsiders does not mean we lose the ability to make our own decisions..
Free will has never been the ability to make a choice without the prospect of any adverse consequences..
For example if i was a murderer and i wanted to kill you.. I would face the possibility of getting arrested and be executed by the death penalty.. Would those possible consequences prevent me from deciding to kill you? If i did not care if i lived or died then such society imposed restrictions would not prevent me from deciding to kill you.. People can and do still make their own free will decisions they simply make their own mental calculations as to the possible benefits and costs of competing decisions..
Nice try but no Cigar ----
Your scripture is about the Law ---which shows you when you do Sin ----so your another on that picks the scripture and then doesn't understand what it context is about and use it to suit your own agenda --to be right instead of getting the truth of the Scripture -----
you should have quoted verse 14 as well
14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.
The law increased your sin brought it out because you could't keep it -----We Sin because we choose to sin not because we have to ===
Your scripture is about the Law ---which shows you when you do Sin ----so your another on that picks the scripture and then doesn't understand what it context is about and use it to suit your own agenda --to be right instead of getting the truth of the Scripture -----
you should have quoted verse 14 as well
14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.
The law increased your sin brought it out because you could't keep it -----We Sin because we choose to sin not because we have to ===
Who said you have to sin? Oh, yes, well there is the Scripture that says people sin because they are sinners.
And there are none righteous... no, not one! So that is everybody. Even you, which you make plainly evident.
My goodness, you ought to try being honest once in a while.
The natural man with his heart of stone cannot produce the fruit of faith with his inherently hostile to God mind. And, goodness,
you act as if there are zero Scriptures alluding to the evil one being a major influence on the world. Get real. You are deceived.
Meanwhile, you pretend you believe Scripture when there are zero verses about free will in the context of salvation.
And there are none righteous... no, not one! So that is everybody. Even you, which you make plainly evident.
My goodness, you ought to try being honest once in a while.
The natural man with his heart of stone cannot produce the fruit of faith with his inherently hostile to God mind. And, goodness,
you act as if there are zero Scriptures alluding to the evil one being a major influence on the world. Get real. You are deceived.
Meanwhile, you pretend you believe Scripture when there are zero verses about free will in the context of salvation.
No where in my replies in this thread have i ever declared you to be "facetious"
I have declared that you are wrong in your idea of what free will is and have done my best to share the actual definition of Free will to you..
What?? This statement makes absolutely no sense to me.. Are you being emotional affected by this discussion to the extent that your mind is adopting a twisted persecution complex.. Because both this statements i have quoted in this reply from you have no basis/ justification..
I have declared that you are wrong in your idea of what free will is and have done my best to share the actual definition of Free will to you..
What?? This statement makes absolutely no sense to me.. Are you being emotional affected by this discussion to the extent that your mind is adopting a twisted persecution complex.. Because both this statements i have quoted in this reply from you have no basis/ justification..
I am so you are and do but you are a babe in Christ and the Holy Spirit will only give you the knowledge you can handle -where you are in your spiritual walk ---
Scripture to support this ====
Bible verses related to "babes in Christ":
The phrase "babes in Christ" is a metaphor used to describe new Christians who are still growing in their faith.
1 Corinthians 3:1-3 King James Version (KJV)
And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
It's a reminder that Christians should focus on spiritual nourishment and growing in grace, rather than on performance.
Scripture to support this ====
Bible verses related to "babes in Christ":
- 1 Corinthians 3:1: "Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual, but as worldly—as infants in Christ"
- Hebrews 5:13: "For everyone who lives on milk is still an infant"
- 1 Peter 2:2: "Like newborn babies, crave pure spiritual milk, so that by it you may grow up in your salvation"
The phrase "babes in Christ" is a metaphor used to describe new Christians who are still growing in their faith.
1 Corinthians 3:1-3 King James Version (KJV)
And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
It's a reminder that Christians should focus on spiritual nourishment and growing in grace, rather than on performance.