I don't think He could have. he gave up His omnipotence in becoming human, and did His miracles not by His own power, but by the father's power. It was part of His learning obedience to suffer not being delvered by God from His suffering no matter how hard He prayed, because He had become sinful with our sins in God's sight, and the Father had become deaf to His pleas. That is why He cried, "My God. My God. Why have You forsaken Me?" He had to bear the ignominy of God refusing to release Him, and Him not being able to release Himself... without falling into sin in the process.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Think one of the saddest things is you're probably the most boring, unimaginative troll i've had the misfortune of meeting. You just repeat literally the same rubbish over and over again on other people's posts, relying on quantity rather than quality in the hope readers won't check further back in comments.
Not happy my tolerance level is much less than yours friend but hey! I cut him loads of slack, warned him but nowt registered, really do think he has problems but causing problems to others isn't the solution.
He can choose to troll but should create his own posts to do so, trolling on mine will get verbal slaps from me.
He can choose to troll but should create his own posts to do so, trolling on mine will get verbal slaps from me.
All good pastors should be paid well enough.
Even more so, for the few excellent ones.
That is why legalistic tithing (big Baptist doctrine) for the church age is bad.
Tithing was not for the Church.
It was OT law, for Israel's national income tax.
Tithing is law, not grace.
Tithing perpetuates bad teachers income, via legalism.
Churchianity then becomes a business deal that way...
Thieme was paid well via free will offerings, and worth every penny.
For we who knew what we were getting, loved benefitting from teaching soundly.
It is spiritual warfare....
Even more so, for the few excellent ones.
Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor,
especially those who labor in preaching and teaching.
For Scripture says, "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain,"
and "The worker deserves his wages." 1 Tim 5:17-18
especially those who labor in preaching and teaching.
For Scripture says, "Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain,"
and "The worker deserves his wages." 1 Tim 5:17-18
That is why legalistic tithing (big Baptist doctrine) for the church age is bad.
Tithing was not for the Church.
It was OT law, for Israel's national income tax.
Tithing is law, not grace.
Tithing perpetuates bad teachers income, via legalism.
Churchianity then becomes a business deal that way...
Thieme was paid well via free will offerings, and worth every penny.
For we who knew what we were getting, loved benefitting from teaching soundly.
It is spiritual warfare....
No excuses accepted before God.....
That was not telling those giving to be cheerful.
It was a warning given to those collecting.
He should cause them to be cheerful whom you collect from.
Be fair and honest with the Word of God
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Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give,
not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.'
2 Corinthians 9:7
That was not telling those giving to be cheerful.
It was a warning given to those collecting.
He should cause them to be cheerful whom you collect from.
Be fair and honest with the Word of God
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And those who omit "could afford to...but did not" didn't learn to read very well. 
Not everyone who attends church are filled with the Holy Spirit while sitting in the pews
Some may fulfill something according to the letter of the law.... And?
The Lord will show them that the "right thing" they did, counted as wood, hay, or stubble.
We can always do a right thing in a wrong way.
re: the discussion of Jesus praying, "Take this cup...nevertheless..."
I can follow that the cup is about being separated. However, might physical pain be a consequence of separation? Perhaps, even, that process of separation began in the garden at the moment Jesus brow began to sweat drops as of blood, and its culmination in His crying out, unheard...? I mean, how can anyone pray to One from which (s)he is separated? How does that even feel to even want to all the while knowing that He "isn't there"? And even so, the next moment Jesus commends His spirit into the hands of Him that He called, "My God," in faith, in spite of the depths of the separation He is experiencing to the point of death.
I can follow that the cup is about being separated. However, might physical pain be a consequence of separation? Perhaps, even, that process of separation began in the garden at the moment Jesus brow began to sweat drops as of blood, and its culmination in His crying out, unheard...? I mean, how can anyone pray to One from which (s)he is separated? How does that even feel to even want to all the while knowing that He "isn't there"? And even so, the next moment Jesus commends His spirit into the hands of Him that He called, "My God," in faith, in spite of the depths of the separation He is experiencing to the point of death.