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Hizikyah

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There are a slew of errors in your comment. Charles Darwin's grandfather Erasmus was a member of several science societies; The Lunar Society, the Lichfield Botanical Society, and Derby Philosophical Society. Benjamin Franklin was also a member of the Lunar Society recommended by his friend Darwin. Erasmus and Charles Darwin's other grandfather Josiah Wedgwood secretly raised money to support the American Revolution which they coordinated with B. Franklin. Several of Earasmus Darwin's ideas about biology, and evolution at least hinted at what his grandson would discover nearly 50 years later. There were several other influential men in the late 1700s considering how life had developed. The most significant influence on Charles Darwin's biological thinking was Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744–1829). As a theology student, C. Darwin was very impressed with the creationist thinking of William Paley. Darwin wrote in his authobiography that he had memorized long tracts of Paley's 1802 book "Natural Theology or Evidences of the Existence and Attributes of the Deity."

For additional information about Darwin's background, see Stones and Bones: Notes on Charles Darwin’s Education
Was Charles Darwin's grandfather a Luciferian?
 
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Darwin's cousin, Farncis Gaulton invented eugenics and biometrics... and the same people that funded these also paid Karl Marx to write the 10 planks of communisim/the communist manifesto... So IMO even going down that path is not only clearly satanic, but scientifically/intellectually foolish... and "evolutionists" act like we are foolish..
Francis Galton was quite famous for his exploration of the interior of W. Africa. He invented forensic science by demonstrating that each human had a unique set of finger prints. He also came to the conclusion that intelligence was inherited with in families. His Eugenics Society raised money to pay people who married "healthy" partners. Less known was the matching effort paying people to not have children. Charles Darwin wrote (January 4th, 1873) to his distant cousin (by marriage) that while the idea of eliminating congenital disease was a "grand one," the idea of Galton's Families Registrar would fail. He added that he saw no reason to think that there were any racial differences in moral, or intellectual achievement; "I do not see that an orthognathous face would cost more than a prognathous face; or a good morale than a bad one."

There is no historical reference to any support to Karl Marx from Darwin, or any of his family. The Darwins and Wedgewoods were
deep pocket funders for the anti-slavery movement, first in Britain, and then in the USA.
 

Hizikyah

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No.

He was not. The Lunar Society was men who were scientists, physicians, and industrialists.
And you know the inner workings of the Lunar Society and every other circle he ran in?
 
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And you know the inner workings of the Lunar Society and every other circle he ran in?
Here is another group they were in; William Wilberforce, and Thomas Clarkson were funded by Charles R. Darwin’s Grandfathers; Josiah Wedgwood and Erasmus Darwin through the Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade. Wedgwood and Darwin were founding members in 1787, and served on the London Committee. It was Clarkson who in 1791 conceived the boycott against slave labor sugar. But it was Wedgwood money that paid for the thousands of pamphlets used to promote the campaign.

Do you have any documentation for any of the libels you are writing.

Prov 14:5 A truthful witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.
 
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Hizikyah

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Here is another group they were in; William Wilberforce, and Thomas Clarkson were funded by Charles R. Darwin’s Grandfathers; Josiah Wedgwood and Erasmus Darwin through the Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade. Wedgwood and Darwin were founding members in 1787, and served on the London Committee. It was Clarkson who in 1791 conceived the boycott against slave labor sugar. But it was Wedgwood money that paid for the thousands of pamphlets used to promote the campaign.

Do you have any documentation for any of the libels you are writing.

Prov 14:5 A truthful witness does not deceive, but a false witness pours out lies.
With the introduction of industrialization it was no longer beneficial to "own" slaves, the system was changed.

The IMF trades mens sous (Revelation 18, "12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all kinds ofscented wood, and every kind of article of ivory, and every kind of article of most precious wood, and ofbrass, and iron, and marble, 13 And cinnamon, and incense, fragrant ointment, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and cattle, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, that is, souls of men."

Now you want to use some distracting debate that Darwin wanted slaves free so hes an ok guy... lol
 

Hizikyah

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This is your response to being corrected? You should thank Dr Hurd for correcting your errors. :)
Well I would like to say I respectfully disagree and do not believe I should be thanking someone for trying to mislead me.

I know the pavlov training has been complete, the masses believe when someone dies they get a treat....

Yay White house science czar that says he cant wait till the earth is depopulated in his book Ecoscience....

Loving death is very trendy is it not?
 
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The Nephilim or Rapha could appear as neadrathals. .
So then you believe that Neanderthals existed at the time of Noah?

Do you also believe that they were the offspring of fallen angels and human women?
 
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But didnt they have free will like us? Like they could do evil or good. Or?
I hope it's all clearer in heaven lol. I've been brainwashed by atheist so much lol
If you were brainwashed, it probably was by somebody named Dr. Dino.

Interesting question about whether Neanderthals had free will and whether they could do do evil or good.

I didn't notice that anybody really answered it, so let me have a stab at it.

Neanderthals made a free will decision to have sex with humans. Unless, of course, they were raped. I rather doubt that.

Was this sex good or evil? I'm sure that there are more than a few on this site who would say that it was a sin if the Neanderthal and the human were not married.
 

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Easter is a pagan holiday that man has insinuated into the church. It has nothing to do with Christ, that is only an excuse for having it in church. Christ said to observe His death, to wash each others feet.....does your church do those? When is the last time you washed another believers feet? Never? Yet you celebrate easter every year like clockwork. Something Christ never so much as mentioned..
Did you know that without Christ's resurrection there would be no christianity?
Honestly, do you use your head when you say such ridiculous things about the most important holiday in Christianity? not only the most important holiday, but the very reason why Christians are Christ-ians.

Christ came to bring salvation to you and I. That is what the bible says, not to "conquer death".
You ever hear that scripture before? Christ came so that we wouldn't perish. Christ didn't have to die on the cross to abolish death. God could have put satan in hell without His Son having to go thru agony. It happened so that we would be saved. That is the only reason for Christ's appearance and death on this planet.
Salvation from what?
Let's listen to Paul's words: for just as through one man death came into the world, so as through Jesus Christ came salvation for the world. Salvation from death.
 

Hizikyah

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Yahchanan (John) 4:24, "Yahweh is a Spirit and those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth."

Deuteronomy 12:29-32, “When Yahweh your Father cuts off the nations from in front of you, and you displace them and live in their land, Be careful not to be ensnared into following them by asking about their gods, saying: How did these nations serve their gods? I also will do the same. You must not worship Yahweh your Father in their way, for every abomination to Yahweh, which He hates, they have done to their gods. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods. Whatsoever I command you, be careful to observe and do it, you shall not add to it, nor take away from it."

Yeremyah 7:9-11, "Will you steal, murder, commit adultery, vow falsely, burn incense to Baal, follow hinder gods you know nothing of, And then come and stand before Me in this House upon which My Name is called, and say; We are saved! Saved to do all these abominations? Has this House, which is called with My Name, become a den of thieves in your eyes? Behold, I, even I, have seen this! says Yahweh."
 
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Well I would like to say I respectfully disagree and do not believe I should be thanking someone for trying to mislead me.

I know the pavlov training has been complete, the masses believe when someone dies they get a treat....

Yay White house science czar that says he cant wait till the earth is depopulated in his book Ecoscience....

Loving death is very trendy is it not?
What are you going on about? No, you were corrected and rightly so. I am sorry, but it as if you have stuck your fingers in your ears and begun humming a tune to prevent your self from hearing. Just look at what you've written to me. It has nothing to do with your original post that Dr Hurd corrected you on. You are spouting some gibberish to avoid having to make a reasoned response. When someone from your camp rightly corrects me, I say, "Thanks for pointing that out. I was unaware." I have been corrected by Christians, done some quick research, and realized they were right. It happens, and my knowledge base grows as a result, but so many from your side refuse ever to admit your wrong about anything! Just as you are doing now.

Go back and read your post again, look at the corrections Dr Hurd made, do the quick research, and admit you made a couple of mistakes. This happens when we only half remember things we've read in past. Also note that he didn't correct you on everything. You got a couple of things right.
 
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Did you know that without Christ's resurrection there would be no christianity?
There was an early Christian group that taught that the resurrection was not to be understood literally. It may be possible that you would still have Christianity, just a different version of it.
 

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What are you going on about? No, you were corrected and rightly so. I am sorry, but it as if you have stuck your fingers in your ears and begun humming a tune to prevent your self from hearing. Just look at what you've written to me. It has nothing to do with your original post that Dr Hurd corrected you on. You are spouting some gibberish to avoid having to make a reasoned response. When someone from your camp rightly corrects me, I say, "Thanks for pointing that out. I was unaware." I have been corrected by Christians, done some quick research, and realized they were right. It happens, and my knowledge base grows as a result, but so many from your side refuse ever to admit your wrong about anything! Just as you are doing now.

Go back and read your post again, look at the corrections Dr Hurd made, do the quick research, and admit you made a couple of mistakes. This happens when we only half remember things we've read in past. Also note that he didn't correct you on everything. You got a couple of things right.
The reason I bring up other topics is because they are directly connected to the main topic, not on the surface but in he great kabal.

You clearly study this and that, how many times have scientist or evolutionist said 100% this is the truth then it changes...

Or how about that missing link that was actually bones from different species piled together by some college students.

In the worlds of religion, science, evolution, etc people lie and falsify "evidence" so (sincerely) forgive me if I dont read one expert and jump on the bandwagon, as a child I believed evolution without question because that is what my Rockefeller foundation public school had taught me. After much study, I no longer believe evolution of ape to human. I believe if I curl a 50lb weight everyday, my bicep will evolve into a bigger stronger bicep, not a elephant trunk...

Is it possible (no matter if satan exist or not) is it possible that there are people who believe in satan and want to use every means necessary to destroy consciousness, peace, life, etc?

Is it possible that there are other beings (demons, angels) that are effecting this world?
 

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There was an early Christian group that taught that the resurrection was not to be understood literally. It may be possible that you would still have Christianity, just a different version of it.
Could you give a source (or more) for what you just stated? Thank's.

(preferable early christian writings)
 
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Did you know that without Christ's resurrection there would be no christianity?
Honestly, do you use your head when you say such ridiculous things about the most important holiday in Christianity? not only the most important holiday, but the very reason why Christians are Christ-ians.



Salvation from what?
Let's listen to Paul's words: for just as through one man death came into the world, so as through Jesus Christ came salvation for the world. Salvation from death.
Honestly, have you EVER studied anything to see if it was true? Christmas was not made for Christians..it was taken over by them, supposedly. Why don't you try studying scripture instead of sitting at a keyboard mindlessly repeating something you have been taught by man?
Salvation from death? Hogwash! There is no scripture that you can even pervert to make it say that. Salvation from eternal destruction and eternal punishment. Try reading the 1 chapter of 2nd Thessalonians.

"the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord"

"Everlasting destruction"...does that sound like something that can happen to a "dead" man?

Christ had something to say about the people you have been listening to.

Matthew 15:9 "But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."

Do you have any idea how silly you make yourself look, telling me something about the bible? You, who are splashing around in the shallow end of the word, trying to tell me, one who is capable of eating strong meat, something that you have no knowledge and understanding of?
You didn't answer my questions about foot washing and communion. You don't do those do you? Yet you celebrate christmas? You are in disobedience to the word. you are completely out of line trying to tell me, or anyone else, anything about the word.


Paul had you in mind when he penned the following advice...........2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
 

Hizikyah

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Top evolutionist shows his stupidity in 10 min or less:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t-w26yhZ6M


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Honestly, have you EVER studied anything to see if it was true? Christmas was not made for Christians..it was taken over by them, supposedly. Why don't you try studying scripture instead of sitting at a keyboard mindlessly repeating something you have been taught by man?


Uhm...you confuse Christmas with Easter. Without the resurrection of Christ, you would have no church, no christians, no christian persecutions, no Christmas, no Easter. By the way, you said Easter was a pagan holiday, thus ignoring the very reason for christianity to even exist: the resurrection of Christ.

Salvation from death? Hogwash! There is no scripture that you can even pervert to make it say that. Salvation from eternal destruction and eternal punishment. Try reading the 1 chapter of 2nd Thessalonians.


Yes, salvation from death. Try reading the Bible in its whole context and see how sin entered into the world, what the are wages of sin and what humanity needs to be saved from: not from hell, but from death. It would make no sense to even talk about heaven or hell if there would be no resurrection, no life to be given to the death.

Paul had you in mind when he penned the following advice...........2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
Certainly. Because Paul didn't live in the first century, but in the 21th.