Once again taking verses out of context to twist them to suit your doctrine. The whole dialogue in John 8 betrays that 8:47 is an indictment not a statement of God choosing, the Jews were claiming they were Abraham's children and thereby God's children and Jesus was making it clear that if that were the case they would have recognized Him.
How about rather than doing drive-by theology where you take verses out of context and create meaning for them you actually take the time to sit and read the narratives in context and figure out what is being said? Your whole theology is built on pretext.
How about rather than doing drive-by theology where you take verses out of context and create meaning for them you actually take the time to sit and read the narratives in context and figure out what is being said? Your whole theology is built on pretext.
In Ch8, Jesus is confronting unbelief. Then makes an assessment of why belief does not occur.
"You are of your father the devil" (not of the spiritual chosen seed of Abraham)
In Ch6, Jesus is confronting unbelief. Then makes an assessment of why belief does not occur.
"Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away."
"No one is able to come to Me unless the Father, the onehaving sent Me, draws him, and I will raise him up in the last day."
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent me draws him"
In Ch10 v.25, Jesus is confronting unbelief. Then makes an assessment of why belief does not occur.
"But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you."
Since all of these statements are infallibly true, we can compound them and make the following claim:
-Unbelievers are not the spiritual seed of Abraham and are of their father the devil,
whereas believers are the spiritual seed of Abraham
-Unbelievers are not drawn or called by God the Father, whereas believers are drawn and called
by the Father
-Unbelievers are not Jesus' sheep, where as believers are Jesus sheep hear His voice and follow
Him
I am waiting to hear any arguments to the contrary. Anybody? Are the above-mentioned statements true or false?
Furthermore these sweeping concepts are fleshed out to their ultimate and final form in the epistles of Paul to whom belong to the unveiling of the mystery of the Church.