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Someone here is bound to ask what about peoples experiences with alien abductions and being visited by aliens etc...ive heard stories, whether they are true or not, that they have had that experience, called out to Jesus and suddenly it all stopped. Like it was a strong illusion or something. If it be true then I would say those experiences are demonic and demons playing a pretty nasty trick on people.
I don't disagree...
but...
God and the Angels are repeatedly referred to as dwelling in and/or descending from "heaven".
There is a glorious paradise called the "third heaven".
Heaven, by definition, is upward from Earth.
I don't believe in so-called "aliens" a la Hollywood,
or other "earth-like" planets with people on them a la Mormonism,
but when people ask me if we are "alone in the universe",
I reply that the universe is literally buzzing with life, i.e., the "Heavenly Host".
Is that a wrong paradigm?
but...
God and the Angels are repeatedly referred to as dwelling in and/or descending from "heaven".
There is a glorious paradise called the "third heaven".
Heaven, by definition, is upward from Earth.
I don't believe in so-called "aliens" a la Hollywood,
or other "earth-like" planets with people on them a la Mormonism,
but when people ask me if we are "alone in the universe",
I reply that the universe is literally buzzing with life, i.e., the "Heavenly Host".
Is that a wrong paradigm?
Heard it described as a kingdom, a glorious paradise, and a firmament.
Never heard it described as a planet. Going by the Bible here.
I get the three heavens:
first visible by day,
second visible by night,
third visible by faith.
I didn't say there were "levels" of heaven.
You got me confused with a Mormon.
Never heard it described as a planet. Going by the Bible here.
I get the three heavens:
first visible by day,
second visible by night,
third visible by faith.
I didn't say there were "levels" of heaven.
You got me confused with a Mormon.
T
Let me answer this with scripture:
Gen 22.17
That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
The angel of the Lord is saying this to Abraham when he was tested by offering Isaac as a sacrifice. You also have to believe that we are all direct descendants of Abraham, it is all over the Bible and I am not going to take the time to list it all, search and rightly divide the fact for yourself.
Take a look at what is bold and underlined in the verse. Now let us not limit God and apply what we know. There are only 7.5 billion people on earth and over 300 Billion stars just in the milky way.
Let that soak in for a few minutes and then re-read what is bold and underlined in the verse:
and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven.
Who knows about other planets and aliens. I will say this though, God is so big and we limit him in so many ways.
Gen 22.17
That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
The angel of the Lord is saying this to Abraham when he was tested by offering Isaac as a sacrifice. You also have to believe that we are all direct descendants of Abraham, it is all over the Bible and I am not going to take the time to list it all, search and rightly divide the fact for yourself.
Take a look at what is bold and underlined in the verse. Now let us not limit God and apply what we know. There are only 7.5 billion people on earth and over 300 Billion stars just in the milky way.
Let that soak in for a few minutes and then re-read what is bold and underlined in the verse:
and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven.
Who knows about other planets and aliens. I will say this though, God is so big and we limit him in so many ways.
T
For an extra zinger to this, check out the Book of Enoch and the Secrets of Enoch[I do not place these books on the same level as the current non-apocrypha Bible, for that is true word of God] however in the secrets of enoch he describes IIRC 7 heavens and God's throne is in the 7th heaven.
Just interesting reading is all, not Holy writ by any means to me.
Just interesting reading is all, not Holy writ by any means to me.
Why look outerspace Aliens are right here in the earth 
- Exodus 18:3And her two sons; of which the name of the one was Gershom; for he said, I have been an alien in a strange land:
- Deuteronomy 14:21Ye shall not eat of anything that dieth of itself: thou shalt give it unto the stranger that is in thy gates, that he may eat it; or thou mayest sell it unto analien: for thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God. Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk.
- Job 19:15They that dwell in mine house, and my maids, count me for a stranger: I am an alien in their sight.
- Psalm 69:8I am become a stranger unto my brethren, and an alien unto my mother's children.
- Isaiah 61:5And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers.
- Lamentations 5:2Our inheritance is turned to strangers, our houses to aliens.