Christmas Trees Are not Pagan

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BeyondET

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Nonsense. It's not an excuse. It's using context and one's brain to not make fallacious arguments against Christmas. Ande even if it was a pagan practice, so what? Christ redeems pagan things. Like you and me.
That a good point you made,,, so what? I don't think people practice Christmas like some of the ancients use too, and if anybody thinks it's honoring pagan practices then those people need to drop the modern use of day names Sunday through Saturday there's no doubt that came from pagan practices of gods worshiping... IMO a person can't be against one pagan practice yet practice another that makes no sense.. lol
 
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You can Google Nimrod and Semiramis Christmas :)

They are the source to the corruption of Christmas and Easter.
That is interesting I've read on that led me to another statement that the Babylonians were doing things with decorated trees etc before even the Nimrod Semiramis account its history goes back a long way.. I remember seeing sometime ago a documentary that the present thing came about in some places with a connection to wild colorful mushrooms growing under trees were given as a gesture of graditude..
 
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That a good point you made,,, so what? I don't think people practice Christmas like some of the ancients use too, and if anybody thinks it's honoring pagan practices then those people need to drop the modern use of day names Sunday through Saturday there's no doubt that came from pagan practices of gods worshiping... IMO a person can't be against one pagan practice yet practice another that makes no sense.. lol
I agree that it is useless to argue over these things. We can only present the facts to each other and then move on from there.

The reason why I turned away from Christmas is because I figured out that God rejected the statue Israel made Him to His glory (they even called it YHWH). He is not interested in these things but we all need to determine where we are. :)
 
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Right there were no OT Christmas trees,didn't exist. If a person feels convicted about it,don't do it.But don't make the Bible say something it doesn't.


well, we were expecting it, right?




 
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Do I worship a tree? no. Do I worship the christmas season? no.

While I think tracing christmas' roots IS a good thing, it's shouldn't be a "top 10" sin subject.

Seems to me in these last days we're in, we ought to be doing more than straining at gnats & swallowing camels.....jus' sayin'. :rolleyes:
 
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LaurenTM

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Sorry
but thats rather old news. Its been cobbled together over time. Again,if you feel convicted don't celebrate it. Sports came from pagan origins but no one would say don't watch sports,idolatry if Ive ever seen it. So if trees are an idol,sports certainly are. Something to think about.



oh no!

ban the Olympics...forget Christian athletes...we all know you cannot run for Jesus!

pagan roots! pagan roots!

evil evil evil!!!!!

and I will slap that bacon out of your hand if you pick it up again...swine are FORBIDDEN!

so tired of the fake hoopla
 
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so tired of the fake hoopla
The fake hoopla like you call it is there for a reason. :)

If you make a study of pork meat you will find that a pork do not have sweat glands and all the toxins stays in their meat. Also pork meat contains worms because of what they eat. In the old days the farmers would use the porks for protection against certain critters and even snakes. The snake couldn’t poison the pork but the pork couldn’t get rid of the poison (no sweat glands) and then the meat was poisonous (literally).

Our pastor’s brother has 4 worms in his brain busy killing him slowly. The doctors recon it is because of pork meat... but I am not a doctor so I can't comment on the plausibility of that.

Maybe the hoopla was there for our protection and because our Creator actually cares about us. :)
 

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Yes..........PAGANS.........may well worship trees, statues, stumps, balls of lint........whatever, AND that would constitute a pagan ritual.

CHRISTIANS however DO NOT worship those things, ergo, a Christian having a tree, some mistletoe, candy canes, ornaments, ribbons 'n' such as decoration for the celebration of the BIRTH OF THE CHRIST CHILD is not pagan. Pagans celebrate pagan things/rituals/holidays, whatever.........that is WHY they are considered pagan.

CHRISTIANS celebrate CHRISTIAN holidays/events/whatever.

The Christmas tree in and of itself IS NOT pagan. I know this because Scripture reveals this to me. God CREATED the Fir tree! Y'all DO know that right?

Genesis 1:31) And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

The ONLY people who worship(ed) a tree ............. WERE PAGANS!




No, it's not just about carved idols.
The people did worship the tree itself as well as stumps of trees as a part of pagan worship.
The argument that it's simply about carved idols is just an excuse.
 
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oh no!

ban the Olympics...forget Christian athletes...we all know you cannot run for Jesus!

pagan roots! pagan roots!

evil evil evil!!!!!

and I will slap that bacon out of your hand if you pick it up again...swine are FORBIDDEN!

so tired of the fake hoopla
Cool yer jets, sista! "Slapping bacon outta hands" is fightin' words!:p:rolleyes:;)
 
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The fake hoopla like you call it is there for a reason. :)

If you make a study of pork meat you will find that a pork do not have sweat glands and all the toxins stays in their meat. Also pork meat contains worms because of what they eat. In the old days the farmers would use the porks for protection against certain critters and even snakes. The snake couldn’t poison the pork but the pork couldn’t get rid of the poison (no sweat glands) and then the meat was poisonous (literally).

Our pastor’s brother has 4 worms in his brain busy killing him slowly. The doctors recon it is because of pork meat... but I am not a doctor so I can't comment on the plausibility of that.

Maybe the hoopla was there for our protection and because our Creator actually cares about us. :)
sorry to hear about your pastors brother I hope he gets better, the pork study reminded of the fig tree and issues with that friut...

In Genesis the man and woman covered up with fig leaves did they eat from a fig I'm not sure on that but this fact about fig trees is interesting.

Thekitchn.com
It sounds like a rumor on the elementary school playground: figs have digested wasps in them! Except that unlike most grade school legends, this one is actually true. This week The Atlantic shared a fascinating excerpt from the science blog Oscillator, which explains the symbiotic relationship between certain fig trees and the wasps that pollinate them.

Figs are technically inverted flowers that store their pollen inside the fruits. In order to pollinate the female fruits, the trees have developed a specialized relationship with a type of wasp which burrows inside figs to lay its eggs. After hatching, the baby wasps mate and the males, who are born sharp-toothed but wingless, chew holes through the fig's skin for the winged females' escape. Parenting duties fulfilled, the males die.

The females, pregnant and loaded with pollen, fly to other fig trees and crawl into the fruits to lay their eggs, beginning the cycle anew. The catch? Female figs don't have receptacles for wasp eggs, but the wasps are tricked into climbing in anyway.

As the female wasp slides through the narrow passage in the fig her wings are ripped off (egg laying is a one-way mission) and while she is unsuccessful in laying her eggs, she successfully pollinates the female flower.
The now-flightless wasp is trapped inside the ripening fruit, where it is digested by special enzymes within the fig.
 
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The fake hoopla like you call it is there for a reason. :)

If you make a study of pork meat you will find that a pork do not have sweat glands and all the toxins stays in their meat. Also pork meat contains worms because of what they eat. In the old days the farmers would use the porks for protection against certain critters and even snakes. The snake couldn’t poison the pork but the pork couldn’t get rid of the poison (no sweat glands) and then the meat was poisonous (literally).

Our pastor’s brother has 4 worms in his brain busy killing him slowly. The doctors recon it is because of pork meat... but I am not a doctor so I can't comment on the plausibility of that.

Maybe the hoopla was there for our protection and because our Creator actually cares about us. :)
The Treponema worm and prions are no joke...your post is right on!
 
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Cool yer jets, sista! "Slapping bacon outta hands" is fightin' words!:p:rolleyes:;)

oh....

I thought we WERE all fighting in this thread?

BLT then? lotsa mayo on it!


 
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Well eggs & chicken could poison you too with salmonella, that's why we 'sposed to cook it all the way thru.:)
 
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LaurenTM

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The fake hoopla like you call it is there for a reason. :)

If you make a study of pork meat you will find that a pork do not have sweat glands and all the toxins stays in their meat. Also pork meat contains worms because of what they eat. In the old days the farmers would use the porks for protection against certain critters and even snakes. The snake couldn’t poison the pork but the pork couldn’t get rid of the poison (no sweat glands) and then the meat was poisonous (literally).

Our pastor’s brother has 4 worms in his brain busy killing him slowly. The doctors recon it is because of pork meat... but I am not a doctor so I can't comment on the plausibility of that.

Maybe the hoopla was there for our protection and because our Creator actually cares about us. :)

nope nope and more nope

my grandfather made his fortune with European delicatessen products...yours truly typed the recipes for approval with the Federal Gov...we were federally inspected and EVERYTHING had to be approved and there was even an inspector on the premises full time...was a big place

trichinosis is the agent of grief you speak of...and I forget how many days freezing kills the nasties, but even cooking to who knows what temp, will also do the trick

very sorry about your pastor's brother....I would wonder about the pork meat thing though...have you ever seen that program 'monsters inside me'?...all about people getting all kinds of parasites etc...including in the eyes, brain and just about everywhere else

hoopla 2000 + years ago was a good then...I have my own personal hoopla...I am alergic to shellfish...:(

had my last lobster years ago...almost passed from this world
 
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oh....

I thought we WERE all fighting in this thread?

BLT then? lotsa mayo on it!


Ewwww, mayonnaise..... I'd rather drink something wit' it, than make it slide down on it's own. :rolleyes::eek:
 
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LaurenTM

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Hahahaha!Ive
been expecting my Shepard pup to knock down my tree. So far so good.

was wondering how the little monkey was!

we have had trees knocked down too...once by our dog (back in the day when I as a cute little kid) and once by my brother..

we scolded the dog and made my brother sleep in the garage...(jking)
 
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Ewwww, mayonnaise..... I'd rather drink something wit' it, than make it slide down on it's own. :rolleyes::eek:


haha

I love mayonnaise...gotta be Hellman's tho

if it were not for condiments, I'd prob be 20 lbs less...and quite skinny