Church Vs Church(style wise)

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SantoSubito

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I go to a TLM (Traditional Latin Mass) Parish. You would probably qualify that as "Stuffy and Boring", but as i see it a liturgical method of worship is the best (Lutherans, Orthodox, Anglicans, Methodists, and Catholics would fall in that group).
 
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BananaPie

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If you refuse to allow traditional music in your church, aren’t you telling people who like that music that they are not welcome in your church, and if you refuse to allow contemporary music in your church, aren’t you telling people who like that kind of music that they are not welcome in your church? What’s wrong with having both?

If you don’t mind, I’d like to make a suggestion to people who like traditional music. Don’t let the music drag. When you do, in my opinion, the songs sound boring.
Yes, this is true, yet boring is a state of mind, a state of taste perhaps?
I once took Mom to hear the LA philarmonic play Handel's Messiah, and she fell asleep about 20 minutes into performance. I couldn't believe it!

On the other hand, she can stay up to watch the 10 o'clock news, while I'm falling asleep before their first commercial.

...no grudge against godly music. I cannot stand rap, rock regardless of the lyrics. It's just very boring music to me, and yes, I don't attend services engaged in "loud" music. I guess the system takes care of itself.
 

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I go to a TLM (Traditional Latin Mass) Parish. You would probably qualify that as "Stuffy and Boring", but as i see it a liturgical method of worship is the best (Lutherans, Orthodox, Anglicans, Methodists, and Catholics would fall in that group).
I don't think the Tridentine Rite is as boring as the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, which I actually enjoy. I even attend the Orthros. We must be very boring. :)
 
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SantoSubito

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I don't think the Tridentine Rite is as boring as the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, which I actually enjoy. I even attend the Orthros. We must be very boring. :)
I've heard the Divine Liturgy a couple of times at a Byzantine Catholic Church, and i even prefer it in some ways to the Tridentine rite. However in my opinion the Maronites are more boring than both of us combined.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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I don't think the Tridentine Rite is as boring as the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom, which I actually enjoy. I even attend the Orthros. We must be very boring. :)
Ortho-geeks?
 

dscherck

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We tend to think that organists and pianos are a bit too modern for us. ;)
 
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scottman719

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Im sorry I live in a modern culture and prefer modern music. As long as it praises God why not get the best music you can?
I live in a God culture. I dislike very much when churches flood themselves with secularism, in doing so they dilute the message.

The best music you get? for me that is music that is packed with scripture. I find that traditional songs generally are more rooted in the word of God, thus I prefer them. Don't get me wrong, I like contemporary music too, but not as a sole method of worship.
 
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From what I've seen so far on this thread, what is missing from this conversation entirely is a discussion about who worship is intended for. Our English "worship" is used to translate the Hebrew and Greek verbs meaning to bow or prostrate oneself, especially before a superior. Worship is an opportunity to humble oneself before the Almighty, and while we benefit from this tremendously, worship is ultimately for God, not for us.
Imagine, if you will, a friend or spouse or whomever deciding to throw a huge party for you (birthday, graduation, whatever). That's exciting. But if you show up and the person who threw the party clearly decided to play the music they like, prepare the food they like, serve their favorite kind of cake...then who is the party really for?
Worship is not for the worshipper, no matter how much it benefits us. It is for the one we worship. Since this is the case, then the focus in our worship should be on doing what pleases Him, not what pleases us. And what pleases Him? It is not a certain form, speed, or decible in our music. It is unity of hearts and minds in full and loving submission to Him. Since He never told us that fast music is preferable to slow, or loud to soft, or instrumental to vocal, then we should not be unable and unwilling to worship in styles that are not to our liking. Whether we prefer it or not is quite beside the point.
Instead, let us gladly join with our brothers and sisters in Christ, lifting our voices, minds, and hearts to Him in unison...the way HE likes it. That's what counts.
 

dscherck

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Lyres and lutes have been around awhile.
He actually does play the lute! He's also a classical latin teacher. I'd be taking lessons but he lives in Singapore and I'm in teh States.
 
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He actually does play the lute! He's also a classical latin teacher. I'd be taking lessons but he lives in Singapore and I'm in teh States.
Perhaps someone has written a book that would teach you how to play the lute.
 
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From what I've seen so far on this thread, what is missing from this conversation entirely is a discussion about who worship is intended for. Our English "worship" is used to translate the Hebrew and Greek verbs meaning to bow or prostrate oneself, especially before a superior. Worship is an opportunity to humble oneself before the Almighty, and while we benefit from this tremendously, worship is ultimately for God, not for us.
Imagine, if you will, a friend or spouse or whomever deciding to throw a huge party for you (birthday, graduation, whatever). That's exciting. But if you show up and the person who threw the party clearly decided to play the music they like, prepare the food they like, serve their favorite kind of cake...then who is the party really for?
Worship is not for the worshipper, no matter how much it benefits us. It is for the one we worship. Since this is the case, then the focus in our worship should be on doing what pleases Him, not what pleases us. And what pleases Him? It is not a certain form, speed, or decible in our music. It is unity of hearts and minds in full and loving submission to Him. Since He never told us that fast music is preferable to slow, or loud to soft, or instrumental to vocal, then we should not be unable and unwilling to worship in styles that are not to our liking. Whether we prefer it or not is quite beside the point.
Instead, let us gladly join with our brothers and sisters in Christ, lifting our voices, minds, and hearts to Him in unison...the way HE likes it. That's what counts.
I really like what you said here, and I do agree to a point. I just think sometimes there is a social disconnect with music that unfortunately prevents this. Like there are Christian rap groups whose music obviously praises God, however I don't like rap and regardless oh how good and worthy the lyrics may be, can't stand to listen to the rhythm or delivery style. Similar to more traditional styles of music. Personally they put me to sleep. So while everyone SHOULD be able to worship God in everyway with varying personalities and preferences it just isnt the case. Some people don't even like worshipping through song at all and would rather do it through art, dance, soeaking, whatever.
 
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Ricke

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Well one thing is for certain, God loves us to Praise and Worship him. In our Church we start the services with usually 2 or 3 songs. We have a lead singer with 3-4 backups. We have Organ, lead, base guitar, Grand Piano, saxophone, Professional Drum set. We have a 32 track recording set up for CD. Our Pastor is a also a Singer/ Songwriter of Country Style Gospel Music. Two of his songs he has written have gone platinum on The Country- Gospel scene. We are also blessed to have probably 15 people in our Church including me, who sing when called upon.

I beleive it is not necessary to put on a Worldly Type show of singing, where the Singer and Musicians are in reality are glorifying themselves. The Glory must be unto God. Trying to imitate The way famous Worldly type singers or Musicians play a song is not giving Glory unto God, rather glorifying themselves.
It is not The Song, it is how the Spirit of that song glorifies God, and not oneself. My thoughts....