Climate Change

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rrcn

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Looks like the oligarch's that are running the nations are angry because they cant get everybody on board with them getting richer and richer are going to end up getting destroyed along with those that fell in with them.
James covered that nicely:
[Jas 5:1-6 KJV] 1 Go to now, [ye] rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon [you]. 2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. 3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. 4 Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. 5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. 6 Ye have condemned [and] killed the just; [and] he doth not resist you.
 

Squigglylines

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James covered that nicely:
[Jas 5:1-6 KJV] 1 Go to now, [ye] rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon [you]. 2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. 3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. 4 Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. 5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. 6 Ye have condemned [and] killed the just; [and] he doth not resist you.


The Oil-a-garks seem to be all throughout history and in every nation.
 

Squigglylines

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Yep, a situation that will end.
Removing sulfates from batteries is as easy as adding a high frequency pulse cycle at a higher amperage in the charge circuit and it would be the last battery they would ever sell you. No point in them dipping into their own profits and wasting the .94 cents just to add a 555ic when they can sell us battery after battery.
 

Inquisitor

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Human or Divinely Inspired??

I see the events as beginning of the birth pangs!
There seems to be an abundant misunderstanding of Global temperature change.

We need to start with the basics.

Observational science is very different to theoretical science.

Observational science such as reading and recording the temperature, every day
for a century or more. Observational temperatures tells us, the fact, that temperature
is rising across the world.

I have observed during my long life how our winters are slowly warming. When I was
a child we had electric blankets and heaters in winter. You would pour a bucket of water
on the car windscreen to melt the ice. Our overnight temps would on days go below zero.
For the last 30 years no one uses electric blankets any more. I have not used a heater
for over thirty years.

These days in the middle month of winter I can wear shorts when walking. I no
longer use anything on my lips to stop my lips cracking. Nor do I receive static shocks
from touching metal objects in winter. Our winters are more humid now.

The climate is changing very quickly but people with poor memories will not
notice.

No one can question the recorded temperatures taken by the government in any
country. The planet is warming and that is a fact, observational science, there
is no debate.
 

Omegatime

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There seems to be an abundant misunderstanding of Global temperature change.

We need to start with the basics.

Observational science is very different to theoretical science.

Observational science such as reading and recording the temperature, every day
for a century or more. Observational temperatures tells us, the fact, that temperature
is rising across the world.

I have observed during my long life how our winters are slowly warming. When I was
a child we had electric blankets and heaters in winter. You would pour a bucket of water
on the car windscreen to melt the ice. Our overnight temps would on days go below zero.
For the last 30 years no one uses electric blankets any more. I have not used a heater
for over thirty years.

These days in the middle month of winter I can wear shorts when walking. I no
longer use anything on my lips to stop my lips cracking. Nor do I receive static shocks
from touching metal objects in winter. Our winters are more humid now.

The climate is changing very quickly but people with poor memories will not
notice.

No one can question the recorded temperatures taken by the government in any
country. The planet is warming and that is a fact, observational science, there
is no debate.
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I dont think anyone denies the warmer temperatures but denies that God is behind the changes
 

timemeddler

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If anything, maybe guys will improve their fashion to include non bifurcated garments. :rolleyes:
 

Inquisitor

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I dont think anyone denies the warmer temperatures but denies that God is behind the changes
Actually, there are folk who deny climate change. They say this increasing heat is just
a normal cycle of the weather.

We are behind the present climate change that we observe.
 

Inquisitor

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In June 1933, it hit 95° in every U.S. state and it topped 100° at least once in 44 states and 105° in 35 states. So far this month, it has reached 100° in 35 states and 105° in only 14 (data in the maps below are from NOAA. https://xmacis.rcc-acis.org/).

Oh, but what about “averages”? Well, I’m glad you asked. By the measured GHCNd station data, June 1933 was the hottest on record in the U.S. Of the top 10, eight occurred before 1955, and only two have been in the last 70-years:
Top 10 hottest Junes on record in the U.S. by measured GHCNd station data:
1. 1933
2. 1934
3. 1911
4. 2021
5. 1951
6. 1921
7. 1931
8. 2016
9. 1918
10. 1936
The following may disagree with your version.

Since 1901, the average surface temperature across the contiguous 48 states has risen
at an average rate of 0.17°F per decade (Figure 1). Average temperatures have risen more
quickly since the late 1970s (0.32 to 0.51°F per decade since 1979). For the contiguous
United States, nine of the 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 1998, and 2012
and 2016 were the two warmest years on record
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(epa.gov/climate-indicators/climate-change-indicators-us-and-global-temperature)

I would bet that 2023 and 2024 will become the number one and two, of the USA's
hottest years.
 

Inquisitor

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Plus, God's Word says He will destroy those who are destroying the Earth... why would the Bible say such a thing if nobody was destroying the Earth? Rhetorical question... since undoubtedly there are those whose greed drives them to rape the world's natural resources and pour poisons into our ecosystems and food sources regardless of the consequences to people and/or the planet. Please forgive my making your post purple... Though I did not split it into two... that happened without my knowing!
I would declare that we are all responsible for destroying the planet.

Our demand for wood devastated forests across the world.

Our demand for water drained underground reservoirs.

The demand for oil for cars generated enormous wealth in the oil industry and
political power too.

Countries with a higher standard of living need a large share of Earth's resources.

Fast food is devastating populations across the globe. Does anyone know where
the fast food culture originated?

Hmmm, far too many questions.
 

Magenta

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I would declare that we are all responsible for destroying the planet.
Interesting. God's Word says He will destroy those who are destroying the Earth. Is that all of us then that He will destroy?
 

Squigglylines

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I dont think anyone denies the warmer temperatures but denies that God is behind the changes

First he said in Genesis 8:22 that as long as the earth remains seed time,harvest,cold and heat,day and night will not cease. In Revelation 16:8-9 men are scorched with heat and they curse the name of God who has authority of it.
 

rrcn

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First he said in Genesis 8:22 that as long as the earth remains seed time,harvest,cold and heat,day and night will not cease. In Revelation 16:8-9 men are scorched with heat and they curse the name of God who has authority of it.
Those who curse God are those who have received the mark of the beast. They have rejected the mercy of God and the sacrifice of Jesus.

[Rev 16:2 KJV] 2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and [upon] them which worshipped his image.
 

Nehemiah6

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There not wrong but far too conservative in their predictions.
They have been refuted by many.
Debunking the climate change hoax
https://principia-scientific.com/debunking-the-climate-change-hoax/
"The pretence that rising levels of atmospheric CO2 lead to dangerous global warming is debunked by studies and reconstructions of what happened in the recent and long-ago past, as described in this paper. These show that the increase in atmospheric CO2 follows the rise in global temperature rather than coming before it and causing it, i.e. the exact inverse of the establishment’s CO2 climate “control knob” pretence."
 

HealthAndHappiness

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First he said in Genesis 8:22 that as long as the earth remains seed time,harvest,cold and heat,day and night will not cease. In Revelation 16:8-9 men are scorched with heat and they curse the name of God who has authority of it.
These are excellent verses, the first on the reality of climate change, used to be called seasons/ temperate zones.
I don't believe we are experiencing the time of Revelation 16 yet though.
 

tedincarolina

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Hi fellow believers,

I'm assured that man will not destroy the earth. God will! It's actually written in His word. According to Peter, this present earth is reserved for fire. I'd allow that the change in climate may be God's work in preparing the earth to burn. As I look around the world, I see a lot of prophecies coming to fulfillment concerning the last of the last days. We have been in the last days now for some 2,000 years and they may well be soon coming to a close.

As I read Paul's warning to the believers in Rome of how people will be living as we march inexorably to the last day, I see that prophecy fulfilling. But it could get worse. I see Israel is back where it is supposed to be according to God's word. I see the abomination that causes desolation standing on a wing of the temple. And it has stood there now for some 1300 years. I see the beast that came up out of the sea in John's vision. It has been on site now for about 400 years.

Now, before anyone quotes to me that we don't have any idea the day or the hour, I am not proclaiming a day or an hour here. I'm just saying that the many prophecies of the last days seem to be falling into place. Jesus could return within the next 10-50 years. The last sign that I'm looking for is the covenant made with Israel that will be abandoned shortly after it is made.

I could be wrong about the coming of the end, but I'm assured that nothing man can do will destroy this earth that God has made. God is going to destroy this present earth and He's going to create a new heaven and a new earth. According to the Scriptures.

God bless you all,
Ted
 

rrcn

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Hi fellow believers,

I'm assured that man will not destroy the earth. God will! It's actually written in His word. According to Peter, this present earth is reserved for fire. I'd allow that the change in climate may be God's work in preparing the earth to burn. As I look around the world, I see a lot of prophecies coming to fulfillment concerning the last of the last days. We have been in the last days now for some 2,000 years and they may well be soon coming to a close.

As I read Paul's warning to the believers in Rome of how people will be living as we march inexorably to the last day, I see that prophecy fulfilling. But it could get worse. I see Israel is back where it is supposed to be according to God's word. I see the abomination that causes desolation standing on a wing of the temple. And it has stood there now for some 1300 years. I see the beast that came up out of the sea in John's vision. It has been on site now for about 400 years.

Now, before anyone quotes to me that we don't have any idea the day or the hour, I am not proclaiming a day or an hour here. I'm just saying that the many prophecies of the last days seem to be falling into place. Jesus could return within the next 10-50 years. The last sign that I'm looking for is the covenant made with Israel that will be abandoned shortly after it is made.

I could be wrong about the coming of the end, but I'm assured that nothing man can do will destroy this earth that God has made. God is going to destroy this present earth and He's going to create a new heaven and a new earth. According to the Scriptures.

God bless you all,
Ted
I believe that these verses support your statement:
[Jer 4:23-26 KJV] 23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, [it was] without form, and void; and the heavens, and they [had] no light. 24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly. 25 I beheld, and, lo, [there was] no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled. 26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place [was] a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, [and] by his fierce anger.