Consequences of sinning

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Dec 3, 2016
1,674
26
0
the context is not salvation, but enduring the great tribulation listed.....
You obviously have a hard time reading what God said in His Word and understanding what is being said...

We know this because you deny the "shall be saved" part of "he who endures to the end shall be saved."

Here's another one you cannot explain away:

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.



Where does that indicate or have anything to do with salvation...
Do you know what it means to "be saved"??? We are to be saved from spending eternity apart from God.



sin becomes no issue in ones life.
Unless of course one claims to have been saved and continues in sin leading others into sin and even redefining what God calls sin (walking after the flesh) as being ok for Christians. This is the dark world of "seeker sensitive" christianity which is not true Biblical Christianity at all.

Many are being led to believe by false teachers that it matters not if one sins or not because they claim all future sin has already been washed away.

If that were true, them it would be OK for Christians to continue in sin as it would matter not if they did... but that is a lie of the devil and when you look around among those that say they are Christians there is growing sinful behavior (things the Lord has identified in His Word as being sin)... things such as being a "gay christian", sex outside of marriage, smoking pot and other intoxication such as alcohol and cigarettes, new age, witchcraft. (works of the flesh, walking after the flesh)

These are all works of the flesh as is heresy which is what false grace is as it is leading people to walk with a false jesus that has no problem if we are friends with the world walking after the flesh.

This false jesus is the leader of another gospel and he even gives people visions and dreams and otherwise continually sets them up to believe a lie... this false jesus is an angel of light, none other than that old serpent the devil.

The New Testament contains warnings about these things... and many today have no idea these warnings are there, and/or they are taught by false grace teachers that these warnings are for the world not Christians which is another slick little lie the devil tells people and is one of his favorites cause he uses it so often.





Made myself and everyone around me miserable.
Jesus and His Apostles made religious people miserable cause they had a form of godliness but denied the power thereof and were not actually walking with the Lord on HIS terms and instead walked in man-made, carnal religion that looked OK to men but is not accepted by the Lord.

No, we aren't teaching "works" to earn anything... the purpose of the Gospel is to facilitate the purpose of why God made man in the first place which is to live in them and walk in them so He can be their God (2 Corinthians 6:16) and one cannot actively be living a sinful lifestyle and expect the Lord to be manifest in their lives which is what false grace teachers claim can happen as though God does mind people willingly and knowingly living in sin and/or redefining sin to claim it's not sin so they can play like it's all good... cause it ain't.

Hey, if you false grace people want to be cherry pickers and ignore the whole counsel of God and ignore His warnings... that will not end well for you, but you can if ya want to. Ultimately that's between you and God when you go before Him to answer to your life.

My focus is providing habitation for the Lord to inhabit my life which has nothing to do with earning anything but everything to do with allowing Him to live in me and I live in Him which is walking in the Spirit.

This is why God is telling people to sound the alarm concerning false teaching because there are some amongst us that think they are saved and are not cause they follow a different jesus and another gospel other than the Gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus and His Apostles taught.



He gets strangers to make decisions for Jesus right and left
That's wonderful... what does he do concerning the responsibility to follow up with them to give them opportunity to become disciples?

If one is OSAS, then they think it's all good not realizing what Jesus taught in Mark 4:13-20 give u a heads up that 'ol slewfoot will make a play to steal the Word that was preaches to them out of their hearts so they become unfruitful meaning they do not end up spending eternity with the Lord.

It's very wonderful to get decisions... what about service after the sale???
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,402
113
Take it up with Jesus when You stand before him in the "plenteous in number group"

You obviously have a hard time reading what God said in His Word and understanding what is being said...

We know this because you deny the "shall be saved" part of "he who endures to the end shall be saved."

Here's another one you cannot explain away:

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.





Do you know what it means to "be saved"??? We are to be saved from spending eternity apart from God.





Unless of course one claims to have been saved and continues in sin leading others into sin and even redefining what God calls sin (walking after the flesh) as being ok for Christians. This is the dark world of "seeker sensitive" christianity which is not true Biblical Christianity at all.

Many are being led to believe by false teachers that it matters not if one sins or not because they claim all future sin has already been washed away.

If that were true, them it would be OK for Christians to continue in sin as it would matter not if they did... but that is a lie of the devil and when you look around among those that say they are Christians there is growing sinful behavior (things the Lord has identified in His Word as being sin)... things such as being a "gay christian", sex outside of marriage, smoking pot and other intoxication such as alcohol and cigarettes, new age, witchcraft. (works of the flesh, walking after the flesh)

These are all works of the flesh as is heresy which is what false grace is as it is leading people to walk with a false jesus that has no problem if we are friends with the world walking after the flesh.

This false jesus is the leader of another gospel and he even gives people visions and dreams and otherwise continually sets them up to believe a lie... this false jesus is an angel of light, none other than that old serpent the devil.

The New Testament contains warnings about these things... and many today have no idea these warnings are there, and/or they are taught by false grace teachers that these warnings are for the world not Christians which is another slick little lie the devil tells people and is one of his favorites cause he uses it so often.







Jesus and His Apostles made religious people miserable cause they had a form of godliness but denied the power thereof and were not actually walking with the Lord on HIS terms and instead walked in man-made, carnal religion that looked OK to men but is not accepted by the Lord.

No, we aren't teaching "works" to earn anything... the purpose of the Gospel is to facilitate the purpose of why God made man in the first place which is to live in them and walk in them so He can be their God (2 Corinthians 6:16) and one cannot actively be living a sinful lifestyle and expect the Lord to be manifest in their lives which is what false grace teachers claim can happen as though God does mind people willingly and knowingly living in sin and/or redefining sin to claim it's not sin so they can play like it's all good... cause it ain't.

Hey, if you false grace people want to be cherry pickers and ignore the whole counsel of God and ignore His warnings... that will not end well for you, but you can if ya want to. Ultimately that's between you and God when you go before Him to answer to your life.

My focus is providing habitation for the Lord to inhabit my life which has nothing to do with earning anything but everything to do with allowing Him to live in me and I live in Him which is walking in the Spirit.

This is why God is telling people to sound the alarm concerning false teaching because there are some amongst us that think they are saved and are not cause they follow a different jesus and another gospel other than the Gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus and His Apostles taught.





That's wonderful... what does he do concerning the responsibility to follow up with them to give them opportunity to become disciples?

If one is OSAS, then they think it's all good not realizing what Jesus taught in Mark 4:13-20 give u a heads up that 'ol slewfoot will make a play to steal the Word that was preaches to them out of their hearts so they become unfruitful meaning they do not end up spending eternity with the Lord.

It's very wonderful to get decisions... what about service after the sale???
 
Dec 3, 2016
1,674
26
0
This is why God is telling people to sound the alarm concerning false teaching because there are some amongst us that think they are saved and are not cause they follow a different jesus and another gospel other than the Gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus and His Apostles taught.
This is why Jesus said "I never knew you" in Matthew 7:21-27... because Jesus was never allowed to become one with them as in living in them and walking in them (2 Corinthians 6:16)... sure, they got born again, but Christ was never formed in them (Galatians 4:19) which speaks of what Jesus taught in Mark 4:13-20

And, it's no wonder that many of today's popular teachers (a major way we know they are false teachers!) are claiming that what Jesus taught before the Cross (which is most of His teachings) is not applicable to Christians today... this leads people to build their lives upon sand and will in the end experience great eternal destruction

Matthew 7:21-27
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
 
Dec 3, 2016
1,674
26
0
Take it up with Jesus when You stand before him in the "plenteous in number group"
Your erroneous opinions are meaningless where my life is concerns, bud... so blubber and accuse all ye wants cause it matters not to me seeing it's not yo call anyhow...

1 Corinthians 2:11
For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Hang in there man... someday the Lord will get some revelation to you that actually agrees with His Word!
 
Dec 3, 2016
1,674
26
0
Galatians 5:24
And they that are Christ's HAVE crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

This means they cease from willingly and knowingly living in sin... many today calling themselves Christians are engaging in sinful activities being friends with this world, being carnally minded which is death (separation from God according to what God told Adam in the garden)

Hebrews 2:2
For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;
How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him;


If the angels could not escape every transgression and disobedience and reaped what they sowed (Gal 6:7,8), how shall we escape if we neglect the salvation the Lord bought???

We won't unless we confess and forsake our sin!... and yet false grace teachers make a mockery of God by failing to teach what we sow IS what we reap that if we sow to the flesh we shall of the flesh reap corruption... God is not mocked (see Gal 6:7,8)

Romans 8:13,14
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

They fail to teach the whole counsel of God... and you know, a partial gospel is a false gospel...
 
A

Ariel82

Guest
Take it up with Jesus when You stand before him in the "plenteous in number group"
Common Dcon....didn't you read this statement?

Many are being led to believe by false teachers that it matters not if one sins
We got lots of false teachers that teach works salvation, but we also have lictenious false teachers too.
 
A

Ariel82

Guest
The question I have is how many false teachers are actually here on the forum and how many are actually children of God?
 
U

UnderGrace

Guest
#466

We got lots of false teachers that teach works salvation, but we also have lictenious false teachers too.

Really, interesting I have yet to read one single post where licentious was promoted. There are actually people here that post and teach to go out and behave in a sexually immoral manner? How shocking!

We can consider this a matter of public record since this is public forum, therefore I would really like to know who they are.

Perhaps these licentious false teachers are the ones that teach against a sin management program and instead focus on God's grace and an deep understanding that "there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus" Romans 8:1.

How powerful!

There may be consequences or loss but there is NO condemnation.

We are confident that the power of God's grace is able to change us from within.

Our liberty is not negated by our sin anymore than it was achieved by our good behavior. Only free people can be more free.
Legalists have no chance of standing in liberty because they have none to begin with.




 
Dec 3, 2016
1,674
26
0
The question I have is how many false teachers are actually here on the forum and how many are actually children of God?

Jude 1:4

For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Denying = in opposition to the teachings of Jesus...

Those that claim we should listen to Paul and that which Jesus taught is not for us today... those are the false brethren who defend false grace taught by ear tickling teachers.