Could God Speak to Us?

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Elisabet

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Many a "blind" priest, or shepherd, who have fallen to "traditions of man", have successfully, "restricted" the "Word of God", to the point that He, will fit "quite nicely", in their "little boxes!" "Some", mean well, but for reasons, whether it be from "church leadership", saying, either specifically, or by insinuation, "We do the paying?" (meaning the pastor's/preist's,shepherd's salary) "WE, do the saying!" (meaning, if it is not found to be favorable to these "eyes of men?"...It don't get said/taught/preached!) If this is what you have been "experiencing", in whichever "church of stone", you are attending? as it seems you may be, or at least "inquisitive" enough, in "peering through the lid?" If it were me? I would "RUN...NOT walk" away from such a place, or, those that teach/preach this? Or? Stay, and wait until you either "feel" strong enough, or frustrated enough (you may even feel a dark forboding, oppressiveness, around the edges of your spirit), or, are not "being fed", or, your "peers" in such an assembly, or teaching, "frowns" upon "such inquisitiveness!"

Then? There are those, one might refer to as the "mouthful of well pleasin', and, a handful of MUCH OBLIGED" "snake oil" types! That will cause one to "feel good", as long as you keep "pitching" in the offering plate, whenever, or how many times it's passed during "their session!" These, are referred to as "hirelings!" They are not so much interested in "feeding their flock", as they are in FLEECING the SHEEPS! Doesn't matter to them, if they are chomping down a ribeye, and washing it down with a starbucks, while making you "feel" like your bolonie sammich, and glass of water, is a "meal, fit for a king!" :oops: (p.s....you are being "watched", during "collection times!) Jes "indicitive" of how badly the "spirit of anti-christ", has infiltrated "The Church!"

But, to answer the inquiry of your OP? A RESOUNDING, YES! How else could the "fulness of the gentiles" come to pass, during these last days?

To be sure, however? Enemies of God, mascarading, as "MESSENGERS of Christ", have been in "full tilt boogie", in PREVENTING this from coming to manifestation, since? Well?, Since, Jesus ascended onto the right side of our Heavenly Father! Yea, even before! For, indeed, if this were not the case? There would be no such "critter" as "Traditions of men!" "Which makes VOID, the Word Of God!" If it were true when Christ spoke these words? I ask? Just what has changed, to cause this statement to NOT be true?

(hope these words aid you in your inquiring's)
I am currently attending the Reformed church. I guess the church really pays attention to the truth it's spreading. It doesn't follow the popular things going on in the world. In fact, we still use hymns, the preach is more than an hour long, and we pay attention to ministry.

This church, i guess, doesn't really believe to God speaking directly. Through the Holy Spirit, yes. Through our conscience, yes. But speaking directly to us like he did to Samuel? No. God no longer need to do that because it has all been in the Scripture. In the Old Testament, people hadn't known who Jesus is and they hadn't got the full Scripture. That's why God needed to speak directly to them in order for them to understand him. Now when the Scripture is complete and the salvation has been done, God no longer need to speak directly to us because all God's will has been written in the Scripture.

That's what i have heard in my church.
 

NayborBear

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I am currently attending the Reformed church. I guess the church really pays attention to the truth it's spreading. It doesn't follow the popular things going on in the world. In fact, we still use hymns, the preach is more than an hour long, and we pay attention to ministry.

This church, i guess, doesn't really believe to God speaking directly. Through the Holy Spirit, yes. Through our conscience, yes. But speaking directly to us like he did to Samuel? No. God no longer need to do that because it has all been in the Scripture. In the Old Testament, people hadn't known who Jesus is and they hadn't got the full Scripture. That's why God needed to speak directly to them in order for them to understand him. Now when the Scripture is complete and the salvation has been done, God no longer need to speak directly to us because all God's will has been written in the Scripture.

That's what i have heard in my church.
Not knowing how long you have been a Christian, nor, how much of what you are hearing, you believe. Or, if you are happy, or satisfied with the church you are currently attending, or, "shooting feelers" concerning what,. or how other assemblies conduct "their" services, in your seeking, or inquiries.

Concerning Samuel. Samuel was the last of the "God APPOINTED Judges", before the "vanity of Israel" became so huge, and widespread, that they no longer WANTED God's choice, of whom, or what they wanted to "Represent" them to the "world!" They insisted on a "Man/King", so they could "boast", like the pagans and gentiles! (can you say apostasy?)

Concerning others of God's servants. There were some mostly....But not, always "Priests", that, at times "directly quoted" God's (mostly) Wrath, and impending doom and disgrace! Some others, had "visions", some had "a burden."

If you "see" a pattern here, concerning Israel's "walking down the road of apostasy", and God's "bending over backwards" in his "relenting from" His wrath, through "penalties, and conditions" imposed; until God would not be a "doormat" for such a "sottish" (stupid), and rebellious "people!" It seemed, apparently, the nation of Israel, had NO CLUE, as to "who" was doing this to them, nor, it seems, had any idea, or will, of how to deal with it! So God "Divorced" Israel. Meaning, God NO LONGER spoke to ANYONE, through this "Governmental structure", He had set up FOR them!

Enter? Jesus of Nazareth! Who's coming was "foretold" of, by Him, who KNOWS the "end...From the BEGINNING!" Again, by, one, or more of His "Faithful Servants." Israel's LAST CHANCE for "repentance!"

The testimonies of 4 "Disciples" (indicative, of "Discipline/s), tells of how Israel reacted/received This "Holy ANNOINTED" (and) "only BEGOTTEN Son" OF God! On who's "shoulders", God's "Government", was on! Meaning, Jesus "held UP" this "government." Sorta like how pictures, or paintings of Atlas, bares the globe on his shoulders. (Meaning) at "this" juncture, God would TELL Jesus "what to say", and when to say it! Nothing more, and nothing less!

It wasn't until after Christ's crucifixion, that God, and The Son, sent the Holy spirit, as God's messenger. With (most) all the "power and authority" of the Father, and His Son! As "The God Head" Himself, would still NOT SPEAK DIRECTLY to men! As man in the fallen state man has become (gentiles, as well as Jews), can NOT Handle, Elohim's HOLY PRESCENCE! Just as man couldn't handle God's Holy Prescence with the "Ark of the Covenant" between man, and God!

So, it's NOT that God no longer "has the need" in speaking with men directly. Because He does! It's "traditions of men" that have made God (Himself) Word's "void" TO the "ears" of men. Because He's a "talking", alright! ALL THE TIME! And, in whatever language, one speaks!

Not that people don't "speak in tongues", because, I guess they do! Is that God Prefers one "speak" in one's "native tongue."

It also seems, many people are into "IDOLIZING the Scriptures", to the point, that they no longer "feel the need" to "Listen" elsewheres! This "Nothing ELSE to say", is just another "tradition of man!"

 

Jewel5712

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#43
I once heard from a priest that God no longer speaks to us directly (like how he spoke to Samuel or Jonah), because now we have the Bible and it's the complete revelation of God and God no longer needs to talk to us like he did in the Old Testament.

However, i also read a book that said God could do whatever he wants to do, and he could speak to us in this era if he wants to.
If the book is right, how could we differ which one is really God's words, which one is our own mind, and which one is from Satan?
THANK YOU JESUS that He speaks into our lives..every second of the day..God is the "teacher".. The Bible is the "text books" and we are the 'students". Prayer is our 1-on-1 with God..many just fail to LISTEN and instead just have 1-sided conversations in prayer
 

Jewel5712

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God most certainly does speak to his church these days - especially through properly conducted Pentecostal worship services
that are done decently and in order according to scripture.

26 Then how is it, brothers? When you come together, each one of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation,
has an interpretation. Let all things be for building up.
27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.
29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
1Corinthians 14:

You can read here how that a proper meeting of a Spirit-filled church operates three voice gifts of the Holy Spirit;
diversity of tongues [or speaking in an unknown tongue]
followed by an interpretation of the preceding message given in an unknown tongue
this interpretation is God speaking to us through the indwelling Holy Spirit and confirming the sign and purpose of
speaking (praying) in an unknown tongue.

Then come up to three gifts of prophecy or rather inspired speaking.
Here God speaks directly to the saints and reveals much about the state of affairs within the church body and also
much about what is happening in the world leading up to the coming Day of the Lord.
Not sure God is concerned with denominations amongst the churches..
 

Jewel5712

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What kind of father doesn’t talk to his children? The only question I have is how long is He going to have to keep talking before we all shut up and listen?
Amen...to anyone who doesnt hear God speak in prayers..scripture etc..how can you live a christian life? God can use ANY element to speak to us...confirmation through a Godly friend..a sermon at the church...a person at the grocery store...He even used a TALKING DONKEY! People..we gotta STOP PUTTING GOD IN A BOX..HOW GREAT IS YOUR GOD????
 

calibob

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#46
Not sure God is concerned with denominations amongst the churches..
I know what waggles was talking about Penticostal, assemblies of god, united christian assemblies and many other Charismatic [spirit filled] churches that still believe in and practice the gifts of the holy apirit like speaking in tongues, prophecy, the word of knowlege and healings. I do too. It isnt abouut the names of these churches. The ones he's talking about still believe that the day of the penticost are still here, now.
 

Jewel5712

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I know what waggles was talking about Penticostal, assemblies of god, united christian assemblies and many other Charismatic [spirit filled] churches that still believe in and practice the gifts of the holy apirit like speaking in tongues, prophecy, the word of knowlege and healings. I do too. It isnt abouut the names of these churches. The ones he's talking about still believe that the day of the penticost are still here, now.
I believe in using our giftings as well..penticostal..baptist..catholic..doesnt matter..its Biblical no matter what denomination..just certain churches prefer to practice it openly where others choose not..doesnt mean its less biblical..preferences of the church
 

John146

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People...is God's word not enough? Has the Lord not told us all we need to know concerning life? Are we to add to the word of God? Study the word of truth. Live out the word of truth and stop seeking voices, visions and the such. God has given us everything we need in His word.
 

calibob

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He's an Auzzie they probably use Penticostal where we'd use Charismatic which is what wer'e talking about. Many of the more traditional churches arren't but they have Charismatic branches within. I Africa for example Charismatic Baptists are called Happy Bappies! For real. A friend of mine in Vegas was one.
 

calibob

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People...is God's word not enough? Has the Lord not told us all we need to know concerning life? Are we to add to the word of God? Study the word of truth. Live out the word of truth and stop seeking voices, visions and the such. God has given us everything we need in His word.
I'm not about to denounce the way any person worships the lord. If they want to run up and down the isles waving their hands in the air and I'm not comforatable with it I just won't go there. But I don't put them down for it because it's not my thing. Just like singing amazing grace or christian rock.
 

Jewel5712

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People...is God's word not enough? Has the Lord not told us all we need to know concerning life? Are we to add to the word of God? Study the word of truth. Live out the word of truth and stop seeking voices, visions and the such. God has given us everything we need in His word.
The Bible IS the inspired word of God but just PART of the communication we can have with Him. Not saying its not important but so is prayer and fellowship with our Lord in that area as well..Jesus SHOWED us how to pray so there must be a purpose for it..i dont SEEK OUT visions etc but if God chooses to do that as He did with others in the Bible..arent we to be OPEN to it? God hasnt changed through the years but peoples BELIEFS in Him..or (lack of it) has...:(
 

John146

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The Bible IS the inspired word of God but just PART of the communication we can have with Him. Not saying its not important but so is prayer and fellowship with our Lord in that area as well..Jesus SHOWED us how to pray so there must be a purpose for it..i dont SEEK OUT visions etc but if God chooses to do that as He did with others in the Bible..arent we to be OPEN to it? God hasnt changed through the years but peoples BELIEFS in Him..or (lack of it) has...:(
God told Peter to put more trust in Scripture than any of his experiences. Peter can trust Scripture more than his mountain top experience of seeing the majesty and glory of Jesus and hearing God's voice speak from heaven. We have something more trustworthy than that.

If one thinks they heard God speaking to them through the Holy Spirit, they would be better off searching the Scriptures. Test all voices and experiences with the word of truth. If it's not in the word, disregard it.
 

Jewel5712

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God told Peter to put more trust in Scripture than any of his experiences. Peter can trust Scripture more than his mountain top experience of seeing the majesty and glory of Jesus and hearing God's voice speak from heaven. We have something more trustworthy than that.

If one thinks they heard God speaking to them through the Holy Spirit, they would be better off searching the Scriptures. Test all voices and experiences with the word of truth. If it's not in the word, disregard it.
Im not disagreeing with you..Peter WALKED with Jesus..had a personal and literal relationship with Him..we dont have Jesus literally at our side and thats why we have the Holy spirit..Bible etc..but he doesnt want those things to REPLACE our PERSONAL relationship with Him..if you want to communicate with someone..what do you do..go read a book bout tgem? Maybe that would help..but most would want to GO to tgat person and speak with them..hence prayer..people minimize prayer too much..its our most direct link to our Heavenly Father..
 

Jewel5712

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God told Peter to put more trust in Scripture than any of his experiences. Peter can trust Scripture more than his mountain top experience of seeing the majesty and glory of Jesus and hearing God's voice speak from heaven. We have something more trustworthy than that.

If one thinks they heard God speaking to them through the Holy Spirit, they would be better off searching the Scriptures. Test all voices and experiences with the word of truth. If it's not in the word, disregard it.
We also have to remember that since the Bible is the inspired Word of God..its written by different people at different times in different locations in different translations and langueges..etc. Even Johns and Mathews writings about Jesus birth etc are "differnt"..in over all context its the same but..God wants us to come to HIM...and how we can FIND Him can vary in whatever way He chooses..
 
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The Bible as it is written is the perfect law of God .It alone quickens our souls giving us His understanding not seen. The faith principle.

Charismaticism goes above that which is written, trying to establish another kind of authority as signs and lying wonders needed to confirm it is evidence of the Holy Spirit not seen.Therefore taking away the faith principle and giving it to those who walk by sight., as in out of sight out of mind

Jesus you could say experienced what some call today an out of the body experience and was shown all the kingdoms of the world without moving one inch , which were lying information brought in the fleshly mind of the Son of man.

Three times in Mathew 4 Jesus said in reply to lying wonders.... "it is written" in order to esblish the one source of faith by which we can believe God, not seen .

I think it is confirmed in Colossians 2:18..... intruding into those things which he hath not seen, by walking by faith vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Colossians 2:18

No sign gifts.

Why go above that which is written in exchange of puffing up ones own fleshly mind ?
 

John146

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We also have to remember that since the Bible is the inspired Word of God..its written by different people at different times in different locations in different translations and langueges..etc. Even Johns and Mathews writings about Jesus birth etc are "differnt"..in over all context its the same but..God wants us to come to HIM...and how we can FIND Him can vary in whatever way He chooses..
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God. When you Romans, those aren't Paul's words or thoughts, but the very words of God. When you read through the four gospel accounts, those aren't the words of those four men, but the very words of God.

I agree with you, prayer is our means to communicate to God. Scripture is God's means to communicate with us.
 

calibob

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I wouldn't either brother, I'll just stick with the word and what it says.
I woud rather say; If it is against The Word disregard it. I feel the Lord lead me to Oklahoma, 3 mos later my daughter & family followed me. Kids no longer see women in G strings on bill boards or on the backs of taxis. We don't wake up to gun fire any more. The kids don't pass school just for showing up and we all can afford where we live.

There is nowhere in the Bible that says "Bob, go to Ok." I trust the Holy Spirit and my daughter trusted me. It has worked out fine for 8 years.
 

Jewel5712

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The Bible as it is written is the perfect law of God .It alone quickens our souls giving us His understanding not seen. The faith principle.

Charismaticism goes above that which is written, trying to establish another kind of authority as signs and lying wonders needed to confirm it is evidence of the Holy Spirit not seen.Therefore taking away the faith principle and giving it to those who walk by sight., as in out of sight out of mind

Jesus you could say experienced what some call today an out of the body experience and was shown all the kingdoms of the world without moving one inch , which were lying information brought in the fleshly mind of the Son of man.

Three times in Mathew 4 Jesus said in reply to lying wonders.... "it is written" in order to esblish the one source of faith by which we can believe God, not seen .

I think it is confirmed in Colossians 2:18..... intruding into those things which he hath not seen, by walking by faith vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Colossians 2:18

No sign gifts.

Why go above that which is written in exchange of puffing up ones own fleshly mind ?
Lol..nobody is denying what faith is..but lets set aside ALL DENIMINATIONS and go straight to God...and as much as we can throw scriptures around to "prove our point"

JESUS prayed to HIS heavely father and taught us His example how to pray..why?

God gave us the Holy spirit as comforter and guide..Why?

God gave us His inspired word..the Bible..why?

God through His power gave us IN HIS NAME the power to heal..use our spiritual GIFTS...why?

God gave us his ownly son..why?

ALL THESE THINGS ARE PROOF THAT GOD LOVES US SOOO MUCH HE DOESNT WANT ANY TO PERISH BUT HAVE EVERY MEANS POSDIBLE TO BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH HIM SOME DAY!
If God himself had these things..spoke of them in the Bible numerouse times..how DARE we question who God is..and how He can choose to work in our lives..

Its like stading before God in judgement and him asking why we didnt use the abilities and talents nd POWER He has given you to bring others to Him..would you pull out your Bible and say.."Um..well God..it says in your Holy word..blah blah blah"..NO..of course not :)