Could Paul be disqualified?

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oyster67

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oyster67 said:
Scripture explicitly states what good fruit is and what bad fruit is.
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Galations 5
5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
5:23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
 
oyster67

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1 Corinthians 11:31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
 
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A prize is something that you work for and earn where a gift is something that you freely accept without merit.

Prize (brabeion) - the prize awarded to a victor, the reward (recognition) that follows triumph.
Strong's Concordance
brabeion: a prize
Original Word: βραβεῖον, ου, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: brabeion
Phonetic Spelling: (brab-i'-on)
Definition: a prize
Usage: a prize.

Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Strong's Concordance
charisma: a gift of grace, a free gift
Original Word: χάρισμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: charisma
Phonetic Spelling: (khar'-is-mah)
Definition: a gift of grace, a free gift
Usage: a gift of grace, an undeserved favor.
 
oyster67

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mailmandan said:
A prize is something that you work for and earn where a gift is something that you freely accept without merit.

Prize (brabeion) - the prize awarded to a victor, the reward (recognition) that follows triumph.
Strong's Concordance
brabeion: a prize
Original Word: βραβεῖον, ου, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: brabeion
Phonetic Spelling: (brab-i'-on)
Definition: a prize
Usage: a prize.

Romans 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Strong's Concordance
charisma: a gift of grace, a free gift
Original Word: χάρισμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: charisma
Phonetic Spelling: (khar'-is-mah)
Definition: a gift of grace, a free gift
Usage: a gift of grace, an undeserved favor.
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Philippians 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
 
mailmandan

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oyster67 said:
Philippians 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
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Yes, press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus (Philippians 3:14) and not toward the gift of God which is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)
 
oyster67

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mailmandan said:
Yes, press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus (Philippians 3:14) and not toward the gift of God which is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)
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Yes, no man can earn salvation and no man should try. Furthermore, pressing toward the mark should always be done out of a spirit of want to, not have to.
 
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exegete said:
On the surface, Paul may be saying that since he "talks the talk" it is important that he "walk the walk" and that is certainly one way to take it. How many contemporary pastors/evangelists/etc have taken a downfall over not living up to a Godly lifestyle? However, that may not be what Paul is talking about here. I put in a link to some commentaries which expound on his use of the racing metaphor in the previous verses which may help to shed some light on this.

https://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/9-27.htm
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Yes. . two witnesses, the hearing ears. And the seeing eye they must be in agreement in order to trust the unseen spirit understanding.

I would liken it to the law and the prophets "all things written". Or called sola scriptura.( no oral traditions of men).

The law as to the letter that seen, the temporal, and the hearing ear attributed to the prophets to represent the law of faith the eternal not seen . Together working as one perfect law. Not in part but the whole.
 
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mailmandan said:
Yes, press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus (Philippians 3:14) and not toward the gift of God which is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Romans 6:23)
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Its all one gift .The calling is not of us and neither the gift . Everyone receives the same pennies worth . No bigger barns in heaven all receive the same reward "eternal life.".
 
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