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What will be will be!

God's plan will carry on regardless of mans thoughts,interpretation,fear or power!

He has the FINAL WORD!
Yep he does.

And he warned us this all would happen, so why are we so afraid?
 

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I'm absolutely not.
Death as a believer is a blessing.
Whooooopeeee to be with the Lord!
 

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While the effects of flu varies, it places a substantial burden on the health of people in the United States each year. CDC estimates that flu has resulted in 9 million – 41 million illnesses, 140,000 – 710,000 hospitalizations and 12,000 – 52,000 deaths annually between 2010 and 2020.

How Many People Die From Smoking Worldwide? Over 8 million people die every year due to cigarette smoke, at least judging by WHO’s statistics. 1.2 million of those deaths are the consequence of exposure to second-hand smoke. Smoking cigarettes is said to kill over half of tobacco smokers.

Excessive alcohol use is responsible for more than 95,000 deaths in the United States each year, or 261 deaths per day. These deaths shorten the lives of those who die by an average of almost 29 years, for a total of 2.8 million years of potential life lost.

If they are serious about people's health and well being whether death or sickness they should be concerned about it in all aspects that affect people in these areas.

But they do not mandate for people to get the flu shot.

They sell cigarettes and alcohol that does much damage to some people.

How come they do not care about their lives.

I believe there is more to the vaccine than fighting the coronavirus and it is externally to cause changes in the world and could be a stepping stone to the coming mark of the beast.

For they could go to a chip under the skin to identify who has been vaccinated and not vaccinated.

And then say no person can buy or sell unless they get vaccinated and get the chip to identify them.
Smoking and drinking are choices. COVID is not. We've not even seen the first beast, let alone the second. Christians will know what the mark is, God will make sure of it. It is almost certainly not what we imagine it to be now. Satan is smart. He is creating a smokescreen of confusion and setting believer against believer. It's unedifying and gives Satan way too much glory.
 

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I saw people dying right and left So not sure what treatments you were talking about. as for the motive, As soon as I saw what was happening, the first thought I had was how long it would take to get a vaccine out. I am not worried about why people researched it (money fame power) I was just wanting them to get it done. And I know many others just like me.. Just saying..

I had 2 family members die before the vaccine or any treatment was given out. And knew personally of many many more.

Getting a vaccine to help is not new The type of vaccine they are using is newish (it had been used in the treatment of cancer) which is why I don;t think it should be forced and people should have a choice.

It worked for me and my family, and a co-worker and his family. and a dear sister in Christ. who like the rest of us, Came up positive but had little to no symptoms, and the rest, who did not come up positive even though exposed, and had zero symptoms.
I get my second jab on Friday. It will be a relief. Life will get back to something like normal. Right now, I can't even get a haircut.
 
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I get my second jab on Friday. It will be a relief. Life will get back to something like normal. Right now, I can't even get a haircut.
Sadly, Thanks to the antivaxxers and political infighting it may notbe back to normal. I have to wear a mask now because a bunch of people who refuse to take the vacc cried I may pass this disease to them.

In today's warzone of political battles I do not think really anyone wins.
 
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Some observations on this thread:

"I took the two vaccines already, why would I care if there are detrimental effects? I'm already committed to my previous choice."
The importance of the topic moves to whether one should partake in the booster shots. It is important not to fall victim to the sunken cost fallacy. It is important to continue to diligently observe information as it becomes available so that we may continue to make informed decisions, not double down on bad gambles.

the adverse affects of covid are worse than the vaccine
How would you know? We haven't seen the long term affects of the vaccines. We also don't have definitive numbers for how many people naturally have immunity or high tolerance to the infection. Not everyone will get drastically sick.

"I complied and got the vaccine, why do I still have to wear a mask when freedom should be my reward. Unvaxxed deserve to wear masks and have restrictions. Unvaxxed deserve to be punished."
This kind of mentality reminds me of the Milgrim experiment. When an authority gives permission to be hateful to others, some are overenthusiastic in their evil impulses and the wilful execution of ignorant cruelty.

"scripture and healing"
That's a different topic, but when we look at the book of Job, we see that sometimes illness can occur for a purpose. Why would try to wish away something that is part of God's plan? Have patience and kindness toward our illnesses. Tend to the illness as best as possible, but if a fever leads to a feverdream and within that dream is a message from God, the illness might not have been a bad thing to begin with. Things happen for reasons even if they appear bad or awful at first. Perspective is always grown from experiences both "good" and "bad".

"I didn't have the vaccine and got sick but someone that lives with me that had the vaccine didn't get sick, therefore the vaccine works"
So much of the population is woefully math illiterate that it is disheartening. The conclusion is poorly drawn from the premise. It might as well be from a Monty Python skit. The logic is similar to proving that a woman is a witch because she weighs the same as a duck on a broken scale.
 

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Ecc 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.

What will happen is this.

It is all about them getting a microchip in to people to keep track of them and to cut down on crime for if a crime happens they will know who is in the location and how close they were to the crime scene.

And to find lost people and whoever they want to locate.

And things can operate smoother, faster, and easier.

All information about the person on the chip which identification can be lost or falsified but with the chip it cannot for it will be registered to read legitimate when scanned.

This is the beast's system that he wants in place when he claims to be God, and his agenda is there is no personal God to help mankind, but their technology and devices can help to achieve peace and harmony on earth.

They have the ball rolling to set up this type of system for the New Age Christ when they hand their power over to him.

It is all about getting a microchip in people so they can be tracked.

But they cannot get the vast majority to take the microchip for many will reject it.

So they are using the coronavirus as an excuse to give them a vaccination and a card to identify they been vaccinated which will lead to the microchip being placed under the skin.

They will eventually make it so no person can enter the store, restaurant, work, or any other business without having a vaccination card.

And they want to keep the unvaccinated away from the vaccinated which only the vaccinated can move about in public.

So basically nobody can do business and buy things unless they have the vaccination card.

But the vaccination card can be lost or falsified and that would mean if a vaccinated person lost their card they could not buy things to take care of their needs for they will not be able to enter the business.

And the unvaccinated can produce a false card and be out there in society mingling with the vaccinated.

Their solution is a microchip with all information about them on the chip including the vaccination card and finances for all finances will be done electronically.

This way they can identify who has been vaccinated and not vaccinated with a chip that cannot be falsified and would be registered with the system and work when they scan the chip.

All people who have not received the vaccination and the chip would not be able to buy or sell which they hope this will motivate people to get the vaccination and the chip.

They want to get as many people to take the vaccination as they can even children which Big Bird from Sesame Street was vaccinated to show the children it is alright and good for the more they get to get vaccinated the more likely they will take the chip although when it comes to the mark of the beast many people who claim Christ that were vaccinated will not get the mark and will not continue with their periodical shots and be labeled with the unvaccinated.

They will eventually persecute all people who will not get vaccinated and get the chip.

But it is Satan who is behind this manipulating the wicked to go along with this system of the microchip which is a man made attempt at trying to have peace on earth denying a personal God.

When they go along with the New Age Christ and worship him and believe he has the solution for peace on earth then repentance and salvation are no longer available to them and God can end sin on earth.

For when they take the microchip going along with that system they are saying it is all about people with no higher authority about them, and they have the answer for peace on earth.

The coronavirus and the vaccination is an excuse to get the people to take a microchip to track the people and cut down crime on earth which is the beast's system.

And they are in the process of setting this up for their New Age Christ who they believe is Lucifer that brought the principle of mind, intelligence, to people to help them to evolve, and will help them to evolve to be spiritual in the future.

It is the end game and it is going forward towards the beast kingdom and the mark of the beast.

That means it is not that long before the New Age Christ establishes peace in the Middle East to kick off the 7 years period, and three and one half years later will be when the world takes the beast and his system is in place.

For he wants control of all the people of the world which is another reason he wants the microchip to be in place.

Donald Trump introduced a biometric system and said if they had that in place for people on temporary visas 911 could of been avoided which he is saying it can help to reduce crime.
 
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I get my second jab on Friday. It will be a relief. Life will get back to something like normal. Right now, I can't even get a haircut.
I assure you that you're in the minority. Most people have already gotten on with their lives and have been enjoying a normal, vaccine and mask free, life for a while now.
 
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Sadly, Thanks to the antivaxxers and political infighting it may notbe back to normal. I have to wear a mask now because a bunch of people who refuse to take the vacc cried I may pass this disease to them.

In today's warzone of political battles I do not think really anyone wins.
Sadly, Thanks to the vaxxers and political infighting it may notbe back to normal. I have to wear a mask now because a bunch of people who insist I take the vacc cried I may pass this disease to them if I don't.

In today's warzone of political battles I do not think really anyone wins.
 

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Where do some of you people get this nonsense?

Do you NOT know that just BC someone is vaccinated does not mean that are NOT following Christ?

Do you people realize that whenever it is the end ALL God's children will know?

The mark will be voluntary or "off with their heads"!

Do you know what delusion is?... Look it up.

I well remember when they first introduced bar codes and cash register scanners on all items purchased....... Some 35 yrs ago maybe longer.

People were beside themselves they'll be making us take a similar mark to buy.

Fear is NOT of God for perfect love cast out fear!

Please do not bring your fear mongering into a thread that was to show the results of the Covid19 virus on people.


There are plenty of threads in BDF where the rest of this nonsense is........go there.
 

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I assure you that you're in the minority. Most people have already gotten on with their lives and have been enjoying a normal, vaccine and mask free, life for a while now.
I would dispute the "normal" bit. People are still dying in hordes when it is preventable.

Cases overview

From Our World in Data and The New York Times · Last updated: 2 days ago
1636608464908.png United States
Total cases
46.7M


+83,651

Deaths
758K


+1,678

1636608464934.png Worldwide
Total cases
251M



+479K

Deaths
5.06M


+8,377
 

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Where do some of you people get this nonsense?

Do you NOT know that just BC someone is vaccinated does not mean that are NOT following Christ?

Do you people realize that whenever it is the end ALL God's children will know?

The mark will be voluntary or "off with their heads"!

Do you know what delusion is?... Look it up.

I well remember when they first introduced bar codes and cash register scanners on all items purchased....... Some 35 yrs ago maybe longer.

People were beside themselves they'll be making us take a similar mark to buy.

Fear is NOT of God for perfect love cast out fear!

Please do not bring your fear mongering into a thread that was to show the results of the Covid19 virus on people.


There are plenty of threads in BDF where the rest of this nonsense is........go there.
Of course Christians that got vaccinated with not take the mark of the beast when the time comes for the circumstances that happen before the mark of the beast will cause them to reject it for worship of the beast comes before the mark of the beast which they will not do.

Whether the microchip is the mark of the beast or not they will still go to a microchip to identify who is vaccinated and unvaccinated for the vaccination card can be lost and vaccination cards can be falsified and they want to stop that for it will eventually be that nobody can enter businesses unless they can prove they have been vaccinated.

If they lose their card then they cannot enter a business like a store, and the unvaccinated can produce a false vaccination card.

So with the microchip that will be solved for it cannot be falsified so it will identify that someone has been vaccinated without a doubt.

It is not fear mongering to say they are going to a chip for technology will cause it to happen for they want things to run smoother, faster, and easier, which it will no different than a card that is scanned like a debit card but it will be in the hand.

It is common sense it will happen.

But Christians that are vaccinated with reject the mark of the beast when it comes for they will not worship the beast.

Taking the vaccination does not condemn a person for it is not the mark of the beast but could lead to that decision to give them a chip to identify who has been vaccinated.

I believe they created the coronavirus and caused it to come about so they can use it as an excuse to go to a microchip.

We are at the end time and close to the New Age Christ appearing who will be of the new age movement so how do people think the mark of the beast will happen and we know Satan is a liar, and deceitful.
 

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its a vaccination, not a credit card

I think ppl are confusing the two lol

The thing with vaccines is we know it gives people immunity, it works far better preventing than getting the disease and having to be treated with drugs or a ventilator.

Even if you do catch covid, if you are vaccinated your body will fight it off and you wont die from it as millions have already.

Far too much fearmongering going on with some deluded ppl who dont know anything about healthcare and disease prevention methinks. Quarantine measures have to be taken if there is NO vaccine.
 
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Sadly, Thanks to the vaxxers and political infighting it may notbe back to normal. I have to wear a mask now because a bunch of people who insist I take the vacc cried I may pass this disease to them if I don't.

In today's warzone of political battles I do not think really anyone wins.
Whatever

I have no need to wear a mask. I am protected proven by the fact I got it with no symptoms. I should be dead now or in the hospital
Vaccers aren’t crying. Look at the nfl. Who cried no fair? The anti vaccine group
 
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I would dispute the "normal" bit. People are still dying in hordes when it is preventable.

Cases overview

From Our World in Data and The New York Times · Last updated: 2 days ago
View attachment 233047 United States
Total cases
46.7M


+83,651

Deaths
758K


+1,678

View attachment 233048 Worldwide
Total cases
251M



+479K

Deaths
5.06M


+8,377
Thanks for that source by the way. https://ourworldindata.org/ is very interesting so far.

Death by the hordes is a very normal part of life. Did you look up the statistics for all of the other causes of death? What I am saying is that we can insert any virus disease, pop out some death statistics, and get similar results.
 

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Of course Christians that got vaccinated with not take the mark of the beast when the time comes for the circumstances that happen before the mark of the beast will cause them to reject it for worship of the beast comes before the mark of the beast which they will not do.

Whether the microchip is the mark of the beast or not they will still go to a microchip to identify who is vaccinated and unvaccinated for the vaccination card can be lost and vaccination cards can be falsified and they want to stop that for it will eventually be that nobody can enter businesses unless they can prove they have been vaccinated.

If they lose their card then they cannot enter a business like a store, and the unvaccinated can produce a false vaccination card.

So with the microchip that will be solved for it cannot be falsified so it will identify that someone has been vaccinated without a doubt.

It is not fear mongering to say they are going to a chip for technology will cause it to happen for they want things to run smoother, faster, and easier, which it will no different than a card that is scanned like a debit card but it will be in the hand.

It is common sense it will happen.

But Christians that are vaccinated with reject the mark of the beast when it comes for they will not worship the beast.

Taking the vaccination does not condemn a person for it is not the mark of the beast but could lead to that decision to give them a chip to identify who has been vaccinated.

I believe they created the coronavirus and caused it to come about so they can use it as an excuse to go to a microchip.

We are at the end time and close to the New Age Christ appearing who will be of the new age movement so how do people think the mark of the beast will happen and we know Satan is a liar, and deceitful.





What is your source please.

Of course we all know technology will play a big part in the new age and one world order.

Most believers are aware this is heading into the end of the world as we know it.

There are also threads for these discussions also.
 
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Since this all began, I, a senior who is twice-over immune-compromised, have been exposed to positive-tested active Covid patients twice, have had 4 viruses, without the jab, but it's not all bad...at least I haven't had the flu!
 

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The thing with vaccines is we know it gives people immunity
Only genuine vaccines produce immunity. And the bogus COVID vaccines DO NOT produce any immunity. They are bioweapons. So this whole evil campaign to vaccinate the world is actually to kill off as many as possible.

FDA Documents Show CV19 Vax Produces A Bioweapon
"In the FDA data for Pfizer, they say, look, more people got Covid 19 that got vaccinated. They said that was a side effect. It is not a side effect–it is the effect. . . . The majority of people are in agreement that the Wuhan lab spike protein that was put up on the genome web January 10th of last year is a bioweapon. If you read the FDA approval letter, what is the vaccines’ ingredients? "
https://principia-scientific.com/fda-documents-show-cv19-vax-produces-a-bioweapon/
 

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FDA declares biological war on children with “final sacrifice” of the innocent

(Natural News) In a unanimous vote of 17-0, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) vaccine advisory panel has recommended that the agency officially authorize the “emergency” use of Pfizer-BioNTech’s Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) “vaccine” in children ages five through 11.

The FDA does not have to abide by this recommendation, but chances are that it will because there really has never been a chemical injection that the agency has not wanted to stab into people’s arms, no matter how dangerous.

In fact, the FDA works over time to get dangerous and ineffective vaccines approved. When they injure and kill children, the FDA covers it all up and pretends as though nothing is wrong.

If or when the FDA approves the Pfizer-BioNTech injection for children as young as five, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will then issue an opinion of its own about the matter.

According to reports, children between five and 11 years of age would receive a modified injection that contains only one-third the amount of vaccine per dose. Children 12 years of age and older will continue to receive the full doses.

FDA voting member says he had to vote in favor of covid vaccination for little kids in order to find out what it does to them. When asked why he voted in favor of the recommendation, one of the FDA advisory members revealed that “we’re never going to learn about how safe the vaccine is until we start giving it.” In other words, nobody really knows what these things are going to do to society’s youngest members, and the only way to find out is to start experimentally injecting them with mRNA spike protein vials...

...By recommending that young children get jabbed with experimental Big Pharma chemicals that will permanently alter their DNA and leave them with damaged immunity, the FDA vaccine advisory panel is waging biological war against our nation’s youth.

It would seem as though this could be the American government’s last abominable move before God Almighty himself intervenes to protect his innocent creation from being genetically butchered by Tony Fauci and his fellow death worshippers who would love for nothing more than to inject every last human soul with their chemical poisons.

This whole thing really does seem like some kind of ritual child sacrifice to the Branch Covidian god, who appears to demand the blood of innocents in order to quell his fury. The more children whose parents agree to get them jabbed, the happier their god is, which means fewer other “covid” restrictions such as lockdowns and mask mandates. [Note: I have mention COVID-Moloch many times, and here it is]

“All 17 board members who voted to approve this need to hang,” wrote one commenter at Zero Hedge, noting that the “study” they used to justify their yes votes was only two months long and proved absolutely nothing based on how it was constructed.
“This is meaningless statistical noise, also known as lying with statistics,” this same commenter added.


“The study isn’t large enough to detect any extremely rare side effects, such as the heart inflammation that occasionally occurs after the second dose, mostly in young men and teen boys,” the study itself further revealed about its major shortcomings.

The government wants Chinese Virus injections to be repeatedly stabbed into everyone’s arms probably until the end of time. To keep up with the latest, visit ChemicalViolence.com.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-28-fda-biological-war-children-final-sacrifice-innocent.html
 
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FDA declares biological war on children with “final sacrifice” of the innocent

(Natural News) In a unanimous vote of 17-0, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) vaccine advisory panel has recommended that the agency officially authorize the “emergency” use of Pfizer-BioNTech’s Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) “vaccine” in children ages five through 11.

The FDA does not have to abide by this recommendation, but chances are that it will because there really has never been a chemical injection that the agency has not wanted to stab into people’s arms, no matter how dangerous.

In fact, the FDA works over time to get dangerous and ineffective vaccines approved. When they injure and kill children, the FDA covers it all up and pretends as though nothing is wrong.

If or when the FDA approves the Pfizer-BioNTech injection for children as young as five, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will then issue an opinion of its own about the matter.

According to reports, children between five and 11 years of age would receive a modified injection that contains only one-third the amount of vaccine per dose. Children 12 years of age and older will continue to receive the full doses.

FDA voting member says he had to vote in favor of covid vaccination for little kids in order to find out what it does to them. When asked why he voted in favor of the recommendation, one of the FDA advisory members revealed that “we’re never going to learn about how safe the vaccine is until we start giving it.” In other words, nobody really knows what these things are going to do to society’s youngest members, and the only way to find out is to start experimentally injecting them with mRNA spike protein vials...

...By recommending that young children get jabbed with experimental Big Pharma chemicals that will permanently alter their DNA and leave them with damaged immunity, the FDA vaccine advisory panel is waging biological war against our nation’s youth.

It would seem as though this could be the American government’s last abominable move before God Almighty himself intervenes to protect his innocent creation from being genetically butchered by Tony Fauci and his fellow death worshippers who would love for nothing more than to inject every last human soul with their chemical poisons.

This whole thing really does seem like some kind of ritual child sacrifice to the Branch Covidian god, who appears to demand the blood of innocents in order to quell his fury. The more children whose parents agree to get them jabbed, the happier their god is, which means fewer other “covid” restrictions such as lockdowns and mask mandates. [Note: I have mention COVID-Moloch many times, and here it is]

“All 17 board members who voted to approve this need to hang,” wrote one commenter at Zero Hedge, noting that the “study” they used to justify their yes votes was only two months long and proved absolutely nothing based on how it was constructed.
“This is meaningless statistical noise, also known as lying with statistics,” this same commenter added.


“The study isn’t large enough to detect any extremely rare side effects, such as the heart inflammation that occasionally occurs after the second dose, mostly in young men and teen boys,” the study itself further revealed about its major shortcomings.

The government wants Chinese Virus injections to be repeatedly stabbed into everyone’s arms probably until the end of time. To keep up with the latest, visit ChemicalViolence.com.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-28-fda-biological-war-children-final-sacrifice-innocent.html
Here comes the government's Cowardly predator drone which is about to drop another nuclear stupid bomb on an unsuspecting public!