Daniel and Matthews abomination of desolation.

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FollowerofShiloh

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Paul talks about the man of sin in the Temple claiming to be God and Daniel shows us he will also offer an unclean sacrifice. Plus we have the specific command that "ends" daily sacrifice. I think it's a combination of all of these things.
 
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Omegatime wrote, "Need to understand the covenant with many will bring peace and security for the first 3 1/2 years for the jews as well as building the temple."

My Bible said of the first beast (in the first 3 1/2 years of the seven-year tribulation) Revelation 13:7, "It was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:" Doesn't sound too peaceful to me. He dies of a head wound, and the second beast comes on the scene, heals him.
The deadly wound is healed before the second beast comes on the scene.

The deadly wound has already been healed.It was healed before people from all nations followed after him.
 

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I really believe this war in Israel will result in the Dome being destroyed and the Jews will put their Temple up in less than 2 weeks after clean-up.
When the war began we have seen how unreliable Iran's missiles are by hitting their own hospital and other targets that were Hamas property.. I bet they destroy their own Dome. That would be true justice being served.
 
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Paul talks about the man of sin in the Temple claiming to be God and Daniel shows us he will also offer an unclean sacrifice. Plus we have the specific command that "ends" daily sacrifice. I think it's a combination of all of these things.

He doesn't actually claim to be God.The word translated to claim means to point.




Word: apodeiknumi

Pronounce: ap-od-ike'-noo-mee

Strongs Number: G584

Orig: from 575 and 1166; to show off, i.e. exhibit; figuratively, to demonstrate, i.e. accredit:--(ap-)prove, set forth, shew. G575

Use: Verb

Heb Strong: H7200 H7981

  1. 1) to point away from one's self, to point out, show forth, to expose to view, exhibit
    2) to declare, to show, to prove what kind of person anyone is, to prove by arguments



I noticed he recently said that he is the only one that can keep Israel safe and that no one else can.
It's just who he is.
 
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I really believe this war in Israel will result in the Dome being destroyed and the Jews will put their Temple up in less than 2 weeks after clean-up.
When the war began we have seen how unreliable Iran's missiles are by hitting their own hospital and other targets that were Hamas property.. I bet they destroy their own Dome. That would be true justice being served.
Paul taught that the temple of God was not a building in Jerusalem.He taught that the body or the church is the temple of God.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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He doesn't actually claim to be God.The word translated to claim means to point.




Word: apodeiknumi

Pronounce: ap-od-ike'-noo-mee

Strongs Number: G584

Orig: from 575 and 1166; to show off, i.e. exhibit; figuratively, to demonstrate, i.e. accredit:--(ap-)prove, set forth, shew. G575

Use: Verb

Heb Strong: H7200 H7981

  1. 1) to point away from one's self, to point out, show forth, to expose to view, exhibit
    2) to declare, to show, to prove what kind of person anyone is, to prove by arguments



I noticed he recently said that he is the only one that can keep Israel safe and that no one else can.
It's just who he is.
4. He who opposes and exalts himself against everything that is called God and religion, just as he will sit in the Temple of God, as God, and will show concerning himself as if he is God.

He's just sitting like he is God.
 

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Paul taught that the temple of God was not a building in Jerusalem.He taught that the body or the church is the temple of God.
The Jews will physically see the man of sin so it will be in a physical Temple.
 
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He has a very high approval rating in Israel.Especially after he moved the tabernacle of his place to jerusalem.

Daniel 11:45
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
 

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He has a very high approval rating in Israel.Especially after he moved the tabernacle of his place to jerusalem.

Daniel 11:45
And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
When did the wars in chapter 11 that led to this point take place? They have yet to happen.
 
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When did the wars in chapter 11 that led to this point take place? They have yet to happen.
They have not happened yet.
He doesn't move the tabernacle of his palace to Jerusalem after the war.Once.the war starts he will destroy the entire middle east.
He has already moved the tabernacle of his palace to Jerusalem

A tabernacle is a movable building.
It is of his palace meaning it represents his palace.The modern word for such a building is an embassy.
 

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They have not happened yet.
He doesn't move the tabernacle of his palace to Jerusalem after the war.Once.the war starts he will destroy the entire middle east.
He has already moved the tabernacle of his palace to Jerusalem

A tabernacle is a movable building.
It is of his palace meaning it represents his palace.The modern word for such a building is an embassy.
it does take place after these wars and it could be this war Israel is in now. Some how this current war will lead to peace treaty. That's the antichrist.
 
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it does take place after these wars and it could be this war Israel is in now. Some how this current war will lead to peace treaty. That's the antichrist.
it does take place after these wars and it could be this war Israel is in now. Some how this current war will lead to peace treaty. That's the antichrist.

No,this war is not the time of the end war and the king of the north has already moved his embassy to Jerusalem

The time of the end war contains nukes and the king of the north has 5500 of them.
 

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The abomination of desolation in chapter 11 is at the time of the end.
The Daniel 11 transition to the time of the end is in verse 35 - after verse 31 which is the historic abomination of desolation made by Antiochus IV placing a statue of Zeus in temple.

The Maccabees opposed Antiochus IV and are the ones who are strong and did explolts in verse 32

Daniel 11:
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

Differently, in the time of end abomination of desolation, in Daniel 12, the power of God's people is broken and they are scattered by fleeing to the mountains when they see the AoD set-up as Jesus said for them to do in Matthew 24:15-21.

Daniel 12:
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

The "he' in that verse is Satan, who when cast down to earth in Revelation 12:17 will persecute the Jews. To abvoid that persecution the wise Jews will flee into the wllderness (the mountains) in Revelation 12:14, when they see the AoD statue image set up on the temple mount grounds .

i show the Jews fleeing on my chart follow the AoD set-up


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The Daniel 11 transition to the time of the end is in verse 35 - after verse 31 which is the historic abomination of desolation made by Antiochus IV placing a statue of Zeus in temple.

The Maccabees opposed Antiochus IV and are the ones who are strong and did explolts in verse 32

Daniel 11:
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

Differently, in the time of end abomination of desolation, in Daniel 12, the power of God's people is broken and they are scattered by fleeing to the mountains when they see the AoD set-up as Jesus said for them to do in Matthew 24:15-21.

Daniel 12:
7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

The "he' in that verse is Satan, who when cast down to earth in Revelation 12:17 will persecute the Jews. To abvoid that persecution the wise Jews will flee into the wllderness (the mountains) in Revelation 12:14, when they see the AoD statue image set up on the temple mount grounds .

i show the Jews fleeing on my chart follow the AoD set-up


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I've heard you before.You believe the daily sacrifice spoken of by the prophet Daniel is not the daily sacrifice spoken by the prophet Daniel and you believe the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel is not the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel because Jason of Cyrene's told you they were both ancient history.And you believe there will be a different daily sacrifice spoken of by the prophet Daniel and a different abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel because Jason of Cyrene didn't interpret that for you.
Therefore you believe the king of the north in Daniel 11:32 is not the king of the north in Daniel 11:35 because Jason of Cyrene didn't interpret Daniel 11:35 for you even though scripture shows no sign of a transition.You are just going to blindly follow whatever Jason has taught no matter what anyone else says and how illogical your beliefs are.
 
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The abomination of desolation will be a statue image made of the beast-king.

Antiochus IV in Daniel 11:31 prefigured what the end times abomination will be by placing a statue image of Zeus in the temple.

In Revelation 13:14-15, the false prophet has the statue image of the beast made. The image also comes to life and speaks.



The abomination of desolation does not take place until after day 1 of the 7 year 70th week begins. It has not begun yet, and does not begin until after the Gog/Magog event.

i added the false messianic age of the Antichrist that begins on day 1 of the 7 year 70th week.


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You are probably the only person in the world who believes a king would respond to a direct attack on his people and his country by setting up a statue.

What is a statue going to do?

Daniel 11:40
“At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood


The king of the north is filled with rage and sending a great fleet of ships to invade another land and to destroy and innihilate many and you believe he is doing all this so he can set up a statue.



Daniel 11:44
But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many.


Seriously Doug,a statue,?
Is that the best you think the most powerful military in the entire world can do?

Respond to an attack by setting up a statue?
Joe Biden isn't even dumb enough to do that.
 

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You are probably the only person in the world who believes a king would respond to a direct attack on his people and his country by setting up a statue.

What is a statue going to do?

Daniel 11:40
“At the time of the end the king of the South will engage him in battle, and the king of the North will storm out against him with chariots and cavalry and a great fleet of ships. He will invade many countries and sweep through them like a flood


The king of the north is filled with rage and sending a great fleet of ships to invade another land and to destroy and innihilate many and you believe he is doing all this so he can set up a statue.



Daniel 11:44
But reports from the east and the north will alarm him, and he will set out in a great rage to destroy and annihilate many.


Seriously Doug,a statue,?
Is that the best you think the most powerful military in the entire world can do?

Respond to an attack by setting up a statue?
Joe Biden isn't even dumb enough to do that.
The battles in Daniel 11:40 have nothing to do with the AoD statue image. Those battles will be a prelude to Armageddon, as near the end of the 70th week, the three other regions of the world - i.e. the south, the north, the east will attack the beast - king of the west. The reason will be because the king of the west will be channeling all of the middle east oil (the life blood to the nations) to his western alliance of nations.

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I've heard you before.You believe the daily sacrifice spoken of by the prophet Daniel is not the daily sacrifice spoken by the prophet Daniel and you believe the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel is not the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel because Jason of Cyrene's told you they were both ancient history.
Please stop lying about the Jason of Cyrene as the reason historians of the world know about Antiochus IV and what he did during his life.

The Abomination of desolation will be a statue image of the beast. The person becomes the beast between the transgression of desolation act and the abomination of desolation statue image made of him and placed on the temple mount.

It is on my chart below.


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The battles in Daniel 11:40 have nothing to do with the AoD statue image. Those battles will be a prelude to Armageddon, as near the end of the 70th week, the three other regions of the world - i.e. the south, the north, the east will attack the beast - king of the west. The reason will be because the king of the west will be channeling all of the middle east oil (the life blood to the nations) to his western alliance of nations.

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Yea,let's respond to the king of the souths attack by setting up a statue.That will really cause great tribulation.We can defeat all our enemies by setting up a statue.

Forget about the 5500 nuclear warheads we have in our stockpiles.Lets set up a statue.


Makes a lot of sense Doug.