Daniel's 70 weeks correctly interpreted (in my opinion)

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I'd say satan being bound and not deceiving the nations
If satan deceives the nations and he’s loosed for a season after the millennium then how do we know that he wasn’t bound at the time of Christ and after those 1000 years he’s deceived the nations into believing the millennium is a future event?
 
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Oops maybe my verse is that tribulation is coming
The tribulation or time of Jacobs trouble. According to Hosea God permanently breaks ties with Israel at the time of Jacobs trouble.

Amo 8:2 (KJV) And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.

So does this mean that Israel has no part in the millennium?
 
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The tribulation or time of Jacobs trouble. According to Hosea God permanently breaks ties with Israel at the time of Jacobs trouble.

Amo 8:2 (KJV) And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.

So does this mean that Israel has no part in the millennium?
Well, I would submit that Jacob's trouble was from 66-70AD and the subsquent destruction of Jerusalem.
 
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Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

Jesus said that when you see all these things then summer is nigh even at the door... do you guys think he was talking about Hosea?

Amo 8:1 Thus hath the Lord GOD shewed unto me: and behold a basket of summer fruit.
Amo 8:2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.
 

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Well, I would submit that Jacob's trouble was from 66-70AD and the subsquent destruction of Jerusalem.
Small potatoes. A prequel. Think orders of magnitude larger. Think end time catastrophe. Think in terms of "if these days were not shortened no flesh would be saved". Think in terms of demonic attacks from the pit. Think in terms of terrifying signs in the heavens. Thi k in terms of wholesale destruction of the biosphere.
 
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Small potatoes. A prequel. Think orders of magnitude larger. Think end time catastrophe. Think in terms of "if these days were not shortened no flesh would be saved". Think in terms of demonic attacks from the pit. Think in terms of terrifying signs in the heavens. Thi k in terms of wholesale destruction of the biosphere.
What makes you say that? What passage?
 

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I agree and that means God is done with Israel forever.
KJV1611 should study his Authorized Version carefully. He will discover that this is A FALLACY.
And that means there is no 3rd temple coming.
And this is wishful thinking.

NOTE: I use the KJV consistently and it does NOT say that done is done with Israel forever.
 
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Small potatoes. A prequel. Think orders of magnitude larger. Think end time catastrophe. Think in terms of "if these days were not shortened no flesh would be saved". Think in terms of demonic attacks from the pit. Think in terms of terrifying signs in the heavens. Thi k in terms of wholesale destruction of the biosphere.
Well I wouldn't describe 1 million dead, the scattering of the Jews and the destruction of the temple as small potatoes. Why must Jacob's Trouble be a future application?
 
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KJV1611 should study his Authorized Version carefully. He will discover that this is A FALLACY.

And this is wishful thinking.

NOTE: I use the KJV consistently and it does NOT say that done is done with Israel forever.
Amo 8:2 (KJV) And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.


Ok I’m willing learn something, what does the underlined part of that verse mean? The end of Israel has come and God will not pass through them again. What does that mean?
 

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Well I wouldn't describe 1 million dead, the scattering of the Jews and the destruction of the temple as small potatoes. Why must Jacob's Trouble be a future application?
It is worldwide in magnitude and global in scale and Jews and gentiles alike suffer the same rate of attrition. More or less. And it ushers in the prophetic realization recognition and welcomed return of The Logos Christ Jesus.
 

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I agree and that means God is done with Israel forever. And that means there is no 3rd temple coming.
There are tons and tons of Scripture that state quite clearly that God is not finished with Israel. In fact the very existence and nation are a prerequisite to the Second Coming. Also note that......Israel and Israelites exist today. No coincedence my friend. A necessity.
 
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There are tons and tons of Scripture that state quite clearly that God is not finished with Israel. In fact the very existence and nation are a prerequisite to the Second Coming. Also note that......Israel and Israelites exist today. No coincedence my friend. A necessity.
Actually it doesn’t. The verses that you think apply to fleshly Israel apply to spiritual Israel, the children of the promise like Abraham, Isaac, Paul, Peter and all of us Christians.
 

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Actually it doesn’t. The verses that you think apply to fleshly Israel apply to spiritual Israel, the children of the promise like Abraham, Isaac, Paul, Peter and all of us Christians.
Do you mean this verse (and its context [re: Israel]) ? :

"As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes."
 
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Do you mean this verse (and its context [re: Israel]) ? :

"As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes."
That’s one of them. The enemies of the gospel are unsaved Jews.... they’re the ones God is finished with.
 

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how do we know that he wasn’t bound at the time of Christ and after those 1000 years he’s deceived the nations into believing the millennium is a future event?
Because the generations after the Apostles believed in a future millennium. Like Irenaeus, Ignatius and Justin martyr