Death, the fourth horseman, and Hell following

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Ahwatukee

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They are natural but its never been this much

Isaiah 24 speaks about earth
Right! And think that as you mentioned, they will continue to increase leading up to the time of God's wrath until the Lord returns to end the age. This world is going to be a chaotic mess by the time the Lord returns with possibly only as much as 10% of the earths population left by my guestimation and all human government will be dismantled - (see Daniel 2:31-45).
 

luigi

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To answer OP: I think NO.

Because the first seal is imo the antichrist being unleashed. Some interpret it to be Jesus but why would the Lamb (Jesus) release Himself?

So logically, since the antichrist isnt here yet... those other seals arent either.

But as ive said in other threads I believe the MASSIVE MASSIVE MASSIVE fish-deaths and sinkholes and tornadoes and earthquakes and pestilences etc are all related to the end times.
Kind of like a "prelude" to the actual seals trumpets and vials.

@Ahwatukee have you watched those on youtube? What do you think about them?
The antichrist, aka the beasts mouth, aka the little horn, rises after the he goats prominent horn secedes into four horns (Daniel 8:8-9).
This little horn, aka the beasts mouth, is aligned with the beast having 10 horns (Dn 7: 7-8), which devours its victims, and stomps on what remains.

Daniel 8:8 Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.


Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Good evening Luigi,

I have always believed that the first seal rider is representing the antichrist. He is a counterfeit of the rider on the white horse in Rev.19:11 which is the Lord Jesus. When comparing the two riders, it quickly becomes obvious that they are not the same riders on white horses: Here is an excerpt from a comparison that I did on both riders:


Rider on the White Horse of Rev.6:1-2:


· Holds a bow

· Was given a crown

· Rides out as a conqueror bent on conquest



Rider on the White Horse of Rev.19:11-21:


· Rider is called Faithful and True

· With justice He judges and makes war

· His eyes are like blazing fire

· On his head are many crowns

· Has a name written on him that no one knows but He himself

· Is dressed in a robe dipped in blood

· His name is the Word of God

· Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations

· He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty

· On his robe and on his thigh the name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS

The other horses and their riders represent events that are going to take place, such as peace being taken from the earth so that men kill each other (nation rising against nation and kingdom against kingdom), with the black horse and his rider representing wide-spread famine. The 4th rider being death and mentioning Hades, I believe are personified. For both death and Hades will be thrown into the lake of fire at the great white throne judgment.
Good evening Ah
Good evening Luigi,

I have always believed that the first seal rider is representing the antichrist. He is a counterfeit of the rider on the white horse in Rev.19:11 which is the Lord Jesus. When comparing the two riders, it quickly becomes obvious that they are not the same riders on white horses: Here is an excerpt from a comparison that I did on both riders:


Rider on the White Horse of Rev.6:1-2:


· Holds a bow

· Was given a crown

· Rides out as a conqueror bent on conquest



Rider on the White Horse of Rev.19:11-21:


· Rider is called Faithful and True

· With justice He judges and makes war

· His eyes are like blazing fire

· On his head are many crowns

· Has a name written on him that no one knows but He himself

· Is dressed in a robe dipped in blood

· His name is the Word of God

· Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations

· He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty

· On his robe and on his thigh the name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS

The other horses and their riders represent events that are going to take place, such as peace being taken from the earth so that men kill each other (nation rising against nation and kingdom against kingdom), with the black horse and his rider representing wide-spread famine. The 4th rider being death and mentioning Hades, I believe are personified. For both death and Hades will be thrown into the lake of fire at the great white throne judgment.
Good evening Ahwatukee,
I am aware that the rider of the white horse in Revelation 6 who represents one of the earths leading systems under Satan, is not the same rider of the white horse (the Lord) in Revelation 19.
I see the first rider of the white horse in Revelation 6 as first world nations whose mission it is to conquer other nations for their natural resources in order to keep their economies viable.
The second rider of the red horse who is given a sword to take peace from the earth so that people kill one another, I see representing socialist type (red) nations, who in order to keep their systems viable enact civil strive and war among their satellite territories.
The third rider of the black horse who has a pair of balances in his hand and provides its people with a certain level of sustenance for a days labor, I recognize as third world nations, who when the worlds economies start to fail in the near future, will need to enact a work for sustenance program among their nations in order to maintain their nations viability.
Likewise, as I previously described the current situation under the fourth horseman, the actions currently being undertaken in the Middle East appear in order to maintain those nations viability.
These actions by the four horsemen are those of the four beasts in Daniel 7, prior to their unification into a single beast (single global socio economic system) in Revelation 13.