Debating about God only trivializes and vulgarizes the Divine.

[Theophane]

Ed Lapiz Notes


God is God: infinite, mysterious, transcendent.
Human is human: finite, plain, limited.

How can an infinite human comprehend an infinite God?

That is why religious discourse leads to discord and quarrel: people try to contain all the water of the ocean in an incapable tiny earthen vessel.

Debating about God only trivializes and vulgarizes the Divine.

I agree with all these statements, but I think we should be intellectually equipped to defend our faith and to expound it. It's no use throwing pearls before swine, but if someone asks you about Christianity and you are unable to respond .... it makes you look very foolish. Mockers gonna mock, but make sure they're mocking for the right reasons!

 

[BananaPie]

Ed Lapiz Notes
How can an infinite human comprehend an infinite God?

You mean, how can a finite human comprehend an infinite God, correct?

Perhaps your question is better answered with another question: why would a human need to comprehend God?

Does not God already takes very good care of all humans as life currently exists?
Where does faith fit into the heavenly equation? As the hymn reads,

At peace with God, how great a blessing!
In fellowship with Him to be
And from all stains of sin set free;
How rich am I such wealth possessing!
Richard Slater (1854-1939)

Consider that a trillion plus 1 is a real number, but does adding 1 really make a difference?
1,000,000,000,000 + 1 = 1,000,000,000,001

Now, consider the number googol, which is a 1 followed by 100 zeros. Then, add 1 to googol...

In real mathematics, there will always exist a number greater by 1, but when you get into the infinite, adding 1 doesn't really matter because infinity itself is already defined.

Similarly, God has already defined Himself to be Holy, Eternal and Faithful. If the reader doesn't understand that much about God, then explaining the infinite mind of God wouldn't advance the human cause either, would it?

 

[jimmydiggs]

Theological debates and arguments about God will never end but will always end up in quarrels and further divisions among "believers".

Has any debater changed her/his mind after hearing the other side? No! Debaters only further harden their hearts/positions since they either really believe their view of God or they really need to win debates.

Those who argue about God are like frogs leaping with all their might, against each other, to reach the clouds. Everyone gets spent and no one succeeds.

Frogs would do best to not dare touch the sky; they should just sit back, relax, believe the sky is there, and enjoy the sight.

Are you defending your statements? Sounds like an argument to me. Don't be doin' no trivilizin'.

 

[homwardbound]

Ed Lapiz Notes


God is God: infinite, mysterious, transcendent.
Human is human: finite, plain, limited.

How can an infinite human comprehend an infinite God?

That is why religious discourse leads to discord and quarrel: people try to contain all the water of the ocean in an incapable tiny earthen vessel.

Debating about God only trivializes and vulgarizes the Divine.

you asked

"How can an infinite human comprehend an infinite God?"

Because when one truly desires to know God just to be with God to know God God through his son reveals truth that sets that one free
If there is any other motive for anything else as was in Lucifer then that one will not know truth that sets them free.
Motive is the key that either opens the door to the riches of Christ found in the cross or not
I want to know him just to know him his Love that is which is unfathomable to Human therefore ask God to reveal the full Gospel the resurrection of christ and be raised yourself to the new life you are called to be in here and now

 

[Theophane]

We can only understand God by loving Him. Love, not intellect, is the nature of what connects us to Him.

Agree? Disagree?

 

[teuful_hunden]

Theological debates and arguments about God will never end but will always end up in quarrels and further divisions among "believers".

Has any debater changed her/his mind after hearing the other side? No! Debaters only further harden their hearts/positions since they either really believe their view of God or they really need to win debates.

Those who argue about God are like frogs leaping with all their might, against each other, to reach the clouds. Everyone gets spent and no one succeeds.

Frogs would do best to not dare touch the sky; they should just sit back, relax, believe the sky is there, and enjoy the sight.

I have changed my mind over debate and discussion. so your point is invalid

 

[crossnote]

Ephesians 3:14-19 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father,from whom every family in heaven and on earth is named,
that he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, that ye may be strengthened with power through his Spirit in the inward man;
that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; to the end that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
may be strong to apprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth,
and to know the love of Christ which passeth knowledge, that ye may be filled unto all the fulness of God.

We can only understand God by loving Him. Love, not intellect, is the nature of what connects us to Him.

Agree? Disagree?

 

[jkalyna]

Is their arguement and debate in Heaven? If Phil 4:8 and then James 3:1f For me i will not argue and debate, in the past i did, even if i was overwhelming i still lost, but to each their own choice and decision, the reason i lost is because the Lord told me that, "you(i) do not have to prove anything to anyone, that it is sacred to be a teacher with a grave pending weight of Judgement let others say what they will for HE will judge me for every word i say not what someone else says, so i remembered to be slow to speak, quick to listen, slow to anger, for the anger of man is not the Innocence (Justice)of God.

​ever wonder why you don't see me much in here. take a quess. yah ha....