Did Jesus Die on The Cross for The Just/Elect/Saved Whose Names Are Written in The Book of Life OR

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jamessb

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FollowerofShiloh said:
Do you think you control God and can force Him to give you utterance?
Are you intentionally trying to be deceitful are does it just come naturally?

This is exactly what I wrote...

Yes, I absolutely control God! What kind of ridiculous question is that???

Did God command you to write such an absurdity???

Either you don't understand sarcasm or (more probably) you are intentionally distorting what I wrote.

God punishes those who will not communicate truthfully! Why are you deliberately lying???
 

brightfame52

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Why do you repeat the same false thing over and over and over?

Titus 2:11, "For the grace of God has appeared that offers salvation to all people. "

How can you possibly claim that refers to the elect only???

By changing the subject and choosing a part of an entirely different verse???
Titus 2:11 is all about the elect
 

BillyBob

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I understand perfectly what a savior (not saviour!) does.
Savior/Saviour – the spelling is correct either way. However, when Savior or Saviour refers to Jesus, the word is usually capitalized in much the same way Christians tend to capitalize God. So, it seems to me that both his wording and proper use of capitalization were correct. What do you think?

PS,
Please add me to your ignore list!
 

FollowerofShiloh

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Are you intentionally trying to be deceitful are does it just come naturally?

This is exactly what I wrote...

Yes, I absolutely control God! What kind of ridiculous question is that???

Did God command you to write such an absurdity???

Either you don't understand sarcasm or (more probably) you are intentionally distorting what I wrote.

God punishes those who will not communicate truthfully! Why are you deliberately lying???
I am presenting a timeline of our backnforth.
You will also notice on your own post another poster placed a reaction because they saw your words the same as I did.
So NO, I am not being deceiving. I actually took your word for it.


Friday at 12:43 PM
FollowerofShiloh said:
Do you think you control God and can force Him to give you utterance?

Friday at 1:15 PM
jamessb said:
Yes, I absolutely control God! What kind of ridiculous question is that???

Did God command you to write such an absurdity???


Notice, another poster had same reaction and understood you like I did which is why I asked this question

Friday at 1:19 PM
So you say to God do this and God just does it?


And you never responded.
So like some other posters I believed you at what you said.


I responded to you within 4 minutes
Friday at 1:19 PM
So you say to God do this and God just does it?


And you never clarified.

If I made a mistake I do apologize. But joking or not, WHAT true follower of God would EVER write this in a joking manner (Yes, I absolutely control God!)?
 

tylerbones1313

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------------For the General Audience. We have so much error rampant through this forum. Hopefully every believer listens.------------

Believers have a responsibility to point out error and guide others towards truth as part of their commitment to love, truth, and the spiritual well-being of the community. This responsibility is rooted in the broader biblical commands to love one's neighbor, to pursue righteousness, and to be agents of reconciliation and truth in the world. Several passages throughout the New Testament underscore this aspect of Christian duty:

Galatians 6:1 (NKJV): "Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted." This verse emphasizes the responsibility of believers to help restore those who have fallen into sin. The approach should be characterized by gentleness and self-awareness, highlighting the importance of humility and care in correcting others.
Matthew 18:15-17 (NKJV): "Moreover if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he hears you, you have gained your brother. But if he will not hear, take with you one or two more, that ‘by the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.’ And if he refuses to hear them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses even to hear the church, let him be to you like a heathen and a tax collector." Here, Jesus provides a process for addressing sin within the community, emphasizing the importance of private correction and the goal of reconciliation. It shows a structured approach to pointing out error, with the ultimate aim of restoration.
2 Timothy 4:2 (NKJV): "Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching." Paul instructs Timothy—and by extension, all believers—to be diligent in teaching the truth of God's Word, which includes correcting errors and encouraging right living. This exhortation underscores the role of Scripture in guiding the process of correction and the need for patience and dedication in this task.
James 5:19-20 (NKJV): "Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins." James highlights the life-saving impact of correcting error and guiding someone back to the truth. It presents the act of pointing out error as an expression of care and concern for the spiritual state of others.

These passages collectively illustrate that believers are indeed called to lovingly and carefully address error within the community, always aiming for the restoration and spiritual health of the individual. This responsibility is carried out within the context of a commitment to truth, love, humility, and the ultimate goal of salvation. It's important that such correction is done in a spirit of gentleness, respect, and love, reflecting the character of Christ.
 

FollowerofShiloh

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FollowerofShiloh

Why did you write "reject God"???
Your "followerofshiloh" you copied to your post took me to this post of yours when I clicked on it

jamessb said:
No. I either intentionally pray in English or intentionally speak in tongues. It is under my control.

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Notice, You are presenting that YOU do control God, because only God gives the Utterance per the BIBLE. You are saying it is under YOUR control.