Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
If the law is done away then so is the knowledge of sin, for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
A person who comes to christ already has that knowledge of sin,

Its like using instructions to build a model, then after the model saying you still need the instructions

You only need the instructions if thr model is not yet finished.

So if you think you still need law. Evidently the purpose of the law has not yet been accomplished in your life, which should scare you.
 

RickStudies

Active member
Sep 10, 2019
782
222
43
A person who comes to christ already has that knowledge of sin,

Its like using instructions to build a model, then after the model saying you still need the instructions

You only need the instructions if thr model is not yet finished.

So if you think you still need law. Evidently the purpose of the law has not yet been accomplished in your life, which should scare you.
I`m scared for you. I know what you show here is a mask.
 

gb9

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2011
12,319
6,690
113
I`m scared for you. I know what you show here is a mask.
lets see about a mask.
does a gentile Christ follower HAVE to keep the fri, twilight to sat. twilight Sabbath??

have to, or can one choose to?
 

RickStudies

Active member
Sep 10, 2019
782
222
43
lets see about a mask.
does a gentile Christ follower HAVE to keep the fri, twilight to sat. twilight Sabbath??

have to, or can one choose to?
I`m not sure what you are asking. The Bible says the Sabbath begins at sundown so I assume you want to know about Sabbath keeping?
It`s not a sin to observe the Sabbath but it`s a choice.

Some observe the Sabbath and then go to church on Sunday. I think thats great if you can do it.
 

RickStudies

Active member
Sep 10, 2019
782
222
43
lets see about a mask.
does a gentile Christ follower HAVE to keep the fri, twilight to sat. twilight Sabbath??

have to, or can one choose to?
I dunno why you would think I would say otherwise. You read more posts by my would be critics then what I actually said I guess.
 

DeighAnn

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
Jun 11, 2019
2,436
760
113
ou only need the instructions if thr model is not yet finished.

So if you think you still need law. Evidently the purpose of the law has not yet been accomplished in your life, which should scare you.
What is the next step?
 

gb9

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2011
12,319
6,690
113
I dunno why you would think I would say otherwise. You read more posts by my would be critics then what I actually said I guess.

you did not answer the question .

does a gentile, who was and not now under the Law, HAVE to keep the Sabbath.

that would be a yes or no.
 

RickStudies

Active member
Sep 10, 2019
782
222
43
you did not answer the question .

does a gentile, who was and not now under the Law, HAVE to keep the Sabbath.

that would be a yes or no.
Read post 6807. Several of you jokers criticize me without even reading what I said. Makes it hard for me to take anyone around here seriously.
 

PS

Senior Member
Jan 11, 2013
5,399
695
113
We do away with the law and then we dont know what sin is?
How about:-
1. If it makes your neighbour unhappy it is a sin against man.
2. If we disrespect God, it is a sin against the Almighty.
 

RickStudies

Active member
Sep 10, 2019
782
222
43
How about:-
1. If it makes your neighbour unhappy it is a sin against man.
2. If we disrespect God, it is a sin against the Almighty.
No laws = no sin, ur idea is rejected :)

What about this one,

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
 

PS

Senior Member
Jan 11, 2013
5,399
695
113
No laws = no sin, ur idea is rejected :)

What about this one,

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
That is excellent for our spiritual well-being, but what about the relationship with our neighbour?
 

RickStudies

Active member
Sep 10, 2019
782
222
43
That is excellent for our spiritual well-being, but what about the relationship with our neighbour?
I hope you aren`t talking about the neighbors around here :cautious:

How bout this?

9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
 

PS

Senior Member
Jan 11, 2013
5,399
695
113
I hope you aren`t talking about the neighbors around here :cautious:

How bout this?

9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
I wouldn't dare talk about our neighbours round here. (grin) I'm looking for a universal law that could apply to anyone of all faiths or no faith that would replace the hundreds of OT laws many of which are not applicable today, for example going to Synagogue on Saturday.
 

RickStudies

Active member
Sep 10, 2019
782
222
43
I wouldn't dare talk about our neighbours round here. (grin) I'm looking for a universal law that could apply to anyone of all faiths or no faith that would replace the hundreds of OT laws many of which are not applicable today, for example going to Synagogue on Saturday.
I cant help you with any of that. I believe Jesus is the only path.
 
Aug 17, 2019
226
167
43
you did not answer the question .

does a gentile, who was and not now under the Law, HAVE to keep the Sabbath.

that would be a yes or no.
Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God.

(Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law, since they show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts now accusing, now even defending them.) This will take place on the day when God will judge men’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares. Romans 2:14-16

If the law is written in a Gentiles heart, does he have to keep it? If not, where in scripture can we find a verse that says that we must not keep it or that we must erase it from our hearts?

Who is in your heart? Is he leading you not to keep the law that is written in your heart? Is it what he desires?

...in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit. Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on WHAT THE SPIRIT DESIRES. The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. Romans 8:4-7

Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and Walk in Love.

God is good and His LOVE endures forever. Amen