Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

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Is not the whole Biblie the inspired word of god suitable for teaching and reproof. I we bought a Red letter bible and removed everything that's not in red how much would we have left?

I consider everyday a Holy Day don't forget the hypocrites tried to rebuke the lord and the disciples for gleaning on the Sabbath. The Lord said the sabbath was made for man, man wasn't made for the Sabbath. Jesus is Lord of the sabbath as well as every other day. The word Lord means much more than god! It also means Boss, Owner, It's a term of royalty as well as GOD with a capitol 'G'.
 
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DeighAnn said:
Have you not read? or have you no rules? But I will not judge

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
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Paul also stated they were shadows, are we to live in the shadow or come into the light?

(Col 2:17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ )
 
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azamzimtoti said:
Paul also stated they were shadows, are we to live in the shadow or come into the light?

(Col 2:17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ )
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I myself always will choose the light over the dark. How about you?
 
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DeighAnn said:
Have you not read? or have you no rules?


But I will not judge
Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
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This can only be understood within the wider context of scripture.
You can keep all 613 laws if you wish, but as Paul made it very clear, you cannot be under the law and under grace, it is one or the other.

By the grace of God.... is the only real means of obedience there is.
 
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DeighAnn

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UnderGrace said:
This can only be understood within the wider context of scripture.
You can keep all 613 laws if you wish, but as Paul made it very clear, you cannot be under the law and under grace, it is one or the other.

By the grace of God.... is the only real means of obedience there is.
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Why would I do that? .
 
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UnderGrace said:
This can only be understood within the wider context of scripture.
You can keep all 613 laws if you wish, but as Paul made it very clear, you cannot be under the law and under grace, it is one or the other.

By the grace of God.... is the only real means of obedience there is.
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He also rebuked Peter and had this to say:

(Gal 2:18 “For if I build again those things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor. )

(Gal 2:19 “For I through the law died to the law that I might live to God.)
 
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DeighAnn

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This can only be understood within the wider context of scripture.
You can keep all 613 laws if you wish, but as Paul made it very clear, you cannot be under the law and under grace, it is one or the other.

By the grace of God.... is the only real means of obedience there is.

Are you saying that I need to give you more context or are you implying I am lacking understanding? You have assumed, either on purpose (which is malicious) or ignorantly, more the likely, that I consider myself under the law and not under grace. Please clarify.
 
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DeighAnn said:
This can only be understood within the wider context of scripture.
You can keep all 613 laws if you wish, but as Paul made it very clear, you cannot be under the law and under grace, it is one or the other.

By the grace of God.... is the only real means of obedience there is.

Are you saying that I need to give you more context or are you implying I am lacking understanding? You have assumed, either on purpose (which is malicious) or ignorantly, more the likely, that I consider myself under the law and not under grace. Please clarify.
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I need context because I do not understand your position.
 
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DeighAnn said:
Friday at 12:14 PM
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gb9 said:
me also. but, that does not answer the question. Shabbat or not? requirement or not?
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I believe that my rest in Christ answers that question. I believe my answer lies with in the Spirit of the Law. It does for me. I hope you can respect that. Are you looking to find out if I believe it is within the letter of the law? Do you? Is it a requirement for you or not?
This was my answer then, as this is my answer now. So you see I DID ANSWER.
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I am not " judging " you about keeping the Sabbath. if you choose to honor the twilight fri. - twilight sat ( I say honor, because God was very specific about the Sacred calendar , and one cannot be 100% sure exactly what day it is now vs. the time that God laid out.). go ahead, do so.

but, if you try to tell me I have to, or if you think you will lose your salvation if you do not, then that is wrong.

now, I am saying if, I still am not sure if you think you have to, or all should or not. I think you lean in that direction, but I do not want to assume, as you have not gave a " yes " or " no " answer.

you are answering in many words, and being somewhat vague.
 
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SimpleGardner said:
What if someone does not appreciate the tone of your question? Is it proper to shame them until they answer? I know personally that many see your questions like a nail on the end of a bat you are swinging. There are better ways to ask.
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could it also be, as in with you, the person being asked the question just does want to answer.

and, here is Jesus is the Law, going up in smoke.

on the Mount of Transfiguration , God the Father ( you know , the truth of Trinity ), came down and, in the Presence
 
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gb9 said:
I am not " judging " you about keeping the Sabbath. if you choose to honor the twilight fri. - twilight sat ( I say honor, because God was very specific about the Sacred calendar , and one cannot be 100% sure exactly what day it is now vs. the time that God laid out.). go ahead, do so.

but, if you try to tell me I have to, or if you think you will lose your salvation if you do not, then that is wrong.

now, I am saying if, I still am not sure if you think you have to, or all should or not. I think you lean in that direction, but I do not want to assume, as you have not gave a " yes " or " no " answer.

you are answering in many words, and being somewhat vague.
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Answer me this first, because it will answer your question to me. What is Sabbath?
 
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gb9

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sorry, cut myself off.

and in the presence of Moses ( the Law ) and Elijah ( the Prophets ), said of the Son " this is my beloved Son. Hear Him"

this elevates and separates Christ" s words ( the Words in Red ) above all other Scripture.

care to comment, or was the tone too rough for you?
 
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DeighAnn

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gb9 said:
could it also be, as in with you, the person being asked the question just does want to answer.

and, here is Jesus is the Law, going up in smoke.

on the Mount of Transfiguration , God the Father ( you know , the truth of Trinity ), came down and, in the Presence[/QUOTE You got me. I have not a clue what you are either saying or asking. Please use complete sentences on this.
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