Did Nostradamus Predict the 9/11 Attacks?

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Crazy4GODword

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this information came from Did Nostradamus Predict the 9-11 Attacks? - Urban Legends


September 12, 2001

NOSTRADAMUS, THE most famous astrologer who ever lived, was born in France in 1503 and published his barely scrutable collection of prophecies, The Centuries, in 1555. Each four-line verse (or "quatrain") purported to foretell world events far into the future, and ever since Nostradamus' time devotees have claimed his work accurately predicted wars, natural disasters and the rise and fall of empires.

Yet it's plain to see that Nostradamus couched his "prophetic" verses in language so obscure that the words can be, and have been, interpreted to mean almost anything. What's more, the interpreting is always done after the fact, with the benefit of hindsight, and with the concerted aim of proving the relevance of a given passage to an actual event.

If the aftermaths of past world catastrophes are any indication, we can expect to see a bumper crop of arcane tracts in the coming weeks and months purporting to show beyond a doubt that Nostradamus foresaw the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks of September 11, 2001. In fact, thanks to the efforts of anonymous Internet pranksters, the he-told-you-sos have already begun. "Spooky" quatrains allegedly foretelling the events of 9/11 with incredible specificity were circulating online within hours of the first jetliner crash in New York City — completely bogus quatrains, as it turned out. It wasn't a question of whether or not they accurately predicted anything; Nostradamus simply didn't write them.

New York, the 'City of God'???

The first quatrain to hit email inboxes on 9/11 contained the prediction that a "great thunder" would be heard in the "City of God":

"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb",
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"


- Nostradamus 1654

Let the interpreting begin! Assuming "the City of God" is New York City, then the "two brothers torn apart by Chaos" must be the fallen towers of the Word Trade Center. The "fortress" is clearly the Pentagon, the "great leader" succumbing to Chaos must be the United States of America, and "the third big war" can only mean World War III.

Spooky, right?
 

zone

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this information came from Did Nostradamus Predict the 9-11 Attacks? - Urban Legends


September 12, 2001

NOSTRADAMUS, THE most famous astrologer who ever lived, was born in France in 1503 and published his barely scrutable collection of prophecies, The Centuries, in 1555. Each four-line verse (or "quatrain") purported to foretell world events far into the future, and ever since Nostradamus' time devotees have claimed his work accurately predicted wars, natural disasters and the rise and fall of empires.

Yet it's plain to see that Nostradamus couched his "prophetic" verses in language so obscure that the words can be, and have been, interpreted to mean almost anything. What's more, the interpreting is always done after the fact, with the benefit of hindsight, and with the concerted aim of proving the relevance of a given passage to an actual event.

If the aftermaths of past world catastrophes are any indication, we can expect to see a bumper crop of arcane tracts in the coming weeks and months purporting to show beyond a doubt that Nostradamus foresaw the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks of September 11, 2001. In fact, thanks to the efforts of anonymous Internet pranksters, the he-told-you-sos have already begun. "Spooky" quatrains allegedly foretelling the events of 9/11 with incredible specificity were circulating online within hours of the first jetliner crash in New York City — completely bogus quatrains, as it turned out. It wasn't a question of whether or not they accurately predicted anything; Nostradamus simply didn't write them.

New York, the 'City of God'???

The first quatrain to hit email inboxes on 9/11 contained the prediction that a "great thunder" would be heard in the "City of God":

"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb",
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"

- Nostradamus 1654

Let the interpreting begin! Assuming "the City of God" is New York City, then the "two brothers torn apart by Chaos" must be the fallen towers of the Word Trade Center. The "fortress" is clearly the Pentagon, the "great leader" succumbing to Chaos must be the United States of America, and "the third big war" can only mean World War III.

Spooky, right?
ya.

falls right into the "footprint" of the occultist weirdos' plan - the obsession to point away from what Biblical prophecy says...counterfeit eschaton, anyone?

how many people bought into "Babylon is fallen, is fallen," concerning 9-11?:rolleyes:too many!
 
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Crazy4GODword

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ya.

falls right into the "footprint" of the occultist weirdos' plan - the obsession to point away from what Biblical prophecy says...counterfeit eschaton, anyone?

how many people bought into "Babylon is fallen, is fallen," concerning 9-11?:rolleyes:too many!
so what exactly do think friend, phony or real huh......remember do not quench the Spirit....we do not know and yes there are weirdoes out there like that.
 

zone

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so what exactly do think friend, phony or real huh......remember do not quench the Spirit....we do not know and yes there are weirdoes out there like that.
phony as in he didn't predict it?
or the event itself was phony?

the event itself was staged...so what does that say about him?

NY is the City of God?? (not)
 
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so what exactly do think friend, phony or real huh......remember do not quench the Spirit....we do not know and yes there are weirdoes out there like that.
Yes and the world loves weirdos like that. It's mysterious and exciting to them, but give them a bible to show what real prophecy is and they will run!

Nostradamus is a false prophet. He is not a prophet from God. False prophets have "familiar spirits" hanging around them. The spirits can predict because they are the ones who go out and carry out that plan, but we have to remember that the devil is a liar and the truth is not in him. He has a lot of knowledge of whats to come but doesn't realise that God has orchestrated it. God is using Satan as a tool to do the evil work. Satan thinks its his own marvelous idea, but God is one step ahead.

Isaiah 10: 15 Shall the axe boast itself against him that hews therewith? or shall the saw magnify itself against him that shakes it? as if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up, or as if the staff should lift up itself, as if it were not wood.
 
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Crazy4GODword

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Yes and the world loves weirdos like that. It's mysterious and exciting to them, but give them a bible to show what real prophecy is and they will run!

Nostradamus is a false prophet. He is not a prophet from God. False prophets have "familiar spirits" hanging around them. The spirits can predict because they are the ones who go out and carry out that plan, but we have to remember that the devil is a liar and the truth is not in him. He has a lot of knowledge of whats to come but doesn't realise that God has orchestrated it. God is using Satan as a tool to do the evil work. Satan thinks its his own marvelous idea, but God is one step ahead.

Isaiah 10: 15 Shall the axe boast itself against him that hews therewith? or shall the saw magnify itself against him that shakes it? as if the rod should shake itself against them that lift it up, or as if the staff should lift up itself, as if it were not wood.
I believe that, This guy was not mentioned in the bible and demons can pretend to prophecy and carry out the bad news. we need to watch out.
 
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dmdave17

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Who cares? ;)
 
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Graybeard

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well it can't be as world war III HAS NOT STARTED:rolleyes:..........but wait...2012 is just around the corner.....be alert!
 
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NoahsMom

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No..............he didnt predict it.
 
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Crazy4GODword

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heard about him.....somewhere
 
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Scotth1960

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this information came from Did Nostradamus Predict the 9-11 Attacks? - Urban Legends


September 12, 2001

NOSTRADAMUS, THE most famous astrologer who ever lived, was born in France in 1503 and published his barely scrutable collection of prophecies, The Centuries, in 1555. Each four-line verse (or "quatrain") purported to foretell world events far into the future, and ever since Nostradamus' time devotees have claimed his work accurately predicted wars, natural disasters and the rise and fall of empires.

Yet it's plain to see that Nostradamus couched his "prophetic" verses in language so obscure that the words can be, and have been, interpreted to mean almost anything. What's more, the interpreting is always done after the fact, with the benefit of hindsight, and with the concerted aim of proving the relevance of a given passage to an actual event.

If the aftermaths of past world catastrophes are any indication, we can expect to see a bumper crop of arcane tracts in the coming weeks and months purporting to show beyond a doubt that Nostradamus foresaw the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks of September 11, 2001. In fact, thanks to the efforts of anonymous Internet pranksters, the he-told-you-sos have already begun. "Spooky" quatrains allegedly foretelling the events of 9/11 with incredible specificity were circulating online within hours of the first jetliner crash in New York City — completely bogus quatrains, as it turned out. It wasn't a question of whether or not they accurately predicted anything; Nostradamus simply didn't write them.

New York, the 'City of God'???

The first quatrain to hit email inboxes on 9/11 contained the prediction that a "great thunder" would be heard in the "City of God":

"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb",
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"


- Nostradamus 1654

Let the interpreting begin! Assuming "the City of God" is New York City, then the "two brothers torn apart by Chaos" must be the fallen towers of the Word Trade Center. The "fortress" is clearly the Pentagon, the "great leader" succumbing to Chaos must be the United States of America, and "the third big war" can only mean World War III.

Spooky, right?

I don't believe the prophecies of Nostradamus. I tend to be skeptical of people who claim to infallibly know (predict) the future (future events).
 
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dmdave17

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Assuming, assuming, assuming. How did New York City get to be the "City of God"? Been there recently?
 
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Crazy4GODword

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Assuming, assuming, assuming. How did New York City get to be the "City of God"? Been there recently?
yeah, i just now thought......think about how america started, it was by Christians.....this was in the east after they left Britain.
 
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Century 10, Quatrain 72
The year 1999, seventh month,
From the sky will come a great King of Terror:
To bring back to life the great King of the Mongols,
Before and after Mars to reign by good luck.


1999 is a transposition of 9111, and the seventh month of the Jewish calendar is September.
As in the days of Genghis Khan, everyone lived in fear of the terrorist scourge, and there was war before and after this event.

Nostradamus was the real thing. Here's some others that are pretty hard to dispute:

Century 1, Quatrain 25
The lost thing is discovered, hidden for many centuries.
Pasteur will be celebrated almost as a God-like figure.
This is when the moon completes her great cycle,
but by other rumors he shall be dishonored.

from Wikipedia:
Louis Pasteur (December 27, 1822 – September 28, 1895) was a French chemist and microbiologist born in Dole. He is remembered for his remarkable breakthroughs in the causes and preventions of diseases. His discoveries reduced mortality from puerperal fever, and he created the first vaccine for rabies and anthrax. His experiments supported the germ theory of disease. He was best known to the general public for inventing a method to stop milk and wine from causing sickness, a process that came to be called pasteurization. He is regarded as one of the three main founders of microbiology, together with Ferdinand Cohn and Robert Koch. Pasteur also made many discoveries in the field of chemistry, most notably the molecular basis for the asymmetry of certain crystals. His body lies beneath the Institute Pasteur in Paris in a spectacular vault covered in depictions of his accomplishments in Byzantine mosaics.
In 1995, the centennial of the death of Louis Pasteur, the New York Times ran an article titled "Pasteur's Deception". After having thoroughly read Pasteur's lab notes the science historian Gerald L. Geison declared that Pasteur had given a misleading account of the preparation of the anthrax vaccine used in the experiment at Pouilly-le-Fort.



Century 1, Quatrain 50
From the three water signs will be born a man
who will celebrate Thursday as his holiday.
His renown, praise, rule and power will grow
on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East.

Century 2, Quatrain 28
The penultimate of the surname of the Prophet
Will take Diana [Thursday] for his day and rest:
He will wander far because of a frantic head,
And delivering a great people from subjection.

Century 10, Quatrain 71
The earth and air will freeze a very great sea,
When they will come to venerate Thursday:
That which will be never was it so fair,
From the four parts they will come to honor it.


from Wikipedia:

Nostradamus:
Born on 14 or 21 December 1503 in Saint-Rémy-de-Provence in the south of France, where his claimed birthplace still exists, Michel de Nostredame was one of at least nine children of Reynière de St-Rémy and grain dealer and notary Jaume de Nostredame. The latter's family had originally been Jewish, but Jaume's father, Guy Gassonet, had converted to Catholicism around 1455, taking the Christian name "Pierre" and the surname "Nostredame" (the latter apparently from the saint's day on which his conversion was solemnized).

Sun Yat-sen (pinyin: Sun Yixian; 12 November 1866 - 12 March 1925) was a Chinese revolutionary and political leader. As the foremost pioneer of Nationalist China, Sun is frequently referred to as the Father of the Nation. Sun played an instrumental role in inspiring the overthrow of the Qing Dynasty, the last imperial dynasty of China, which began in in October 1911. He was the first provisional president when the Republic of China (ROC) was founded in 1912 and later co-founded the Kuomintang (KMT) where he served as its first leader. Sun was a uniting figure in post-Imperial China, and remains unique among 20th-century Chinese politicians for being widely revered amongst the people from both sides of the Taiwan Strait.
Although Sun is considered one of the greatest leaders of modern China, his political life was one of constant struggle and frequent exile. After the success of the revolution, he quickly fell out of power in the newly founded Republic of China, and led successive revolutionary governments as a challenge to the warlords who controlled much of the nation. Sun did not live to see his party consolidate its power over the country. His party, which formed a fragile alliance with the Communists, split into two factions after his death. Sun's chief legacy resides in his developing a political philosophy known as the Three Principles of the People: nationalism, democracy, and the people's livelihood.

In March 1904, he obtained a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, issued by the Territory of Hawaii, stating he was born on (Thursday) November 24, 1870 in Kula, Maui.



The one about Pasteur is plain enough. The key to understanding the ones about Sun Yat-Sen is the line 'the penultimate of the surname of the prophet'. Nostradamus refers to his original surname, Gassonnet, and the penultimate of it is its second-last syllable, which is 'son'. The details of Sun Yat-Sen's career are consistent with these quatrains. The line 'freeze a very great sea' refers to the Chinese people being united.
 
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"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb",
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"

Quibbling over individual words is futile anyway, given that Nostradamus didn't even write this passage. He died in 1566, nearly a hundred years before the date given in the email, 1654. The quatrain is nowhere to be found in his entire published oeuvre. In a word, it's a hoax.
More precisely, its attribution to Nostradamus is a hoax. The passage was lifted from a Web page (long since deleted from the server that originally hosted it) containing an essay written by college student Neil Marshall in 1996 entitled "Nostradamus: A Critical Analysis." In the essay itself, Marshall admits inventing the quatrain for the purpose of demonstrating — quite ironically, in light of the way it was subsequently misused — how a Nostradamus-like verse can be so cryptically couched as to lend itself to whatever interpretation one wishes to make.


Ah, Nostradamus. No one else in history has caused more people to stockpile Spam in their bomb shelters.

In 1982, the world gained a whole new reason to fear Nostradamus when a never-before-published work of his was discovered in Rome. A repeated image in the book is that of an eight-spoked wheel, which allegedly represents the intersection of the Divine Cross (made up of the angles of our galactic center and the celestial equator) and the Terrestrial Cross (the angles that make up our equinox and solstice). The two crosses only come into alignment once every 13,000 years, and we're due for alignment in, you guessed it, 2012.
Nostradamus' Armageddon for Dummies also has an image that shows three solar eclipses followed by a lunar eclipse, indicating that sometime between 1992 and 2012 our world will end. The likely cataclysm is a great flood, because at one point there is a picture of a giant pair of women's underwear that scholars allege is a raft.

Without question, this is a picture of a raft.
What Predictions (Supposedly) Came True?
The Reign of Napoleon
The Rise of Hitler
The Atom Bomb
The Kennedy Assassination


Why it Might be a Lie:
Let us, for a second, ignore the fact that the book contains three different handwriting styles, that it is a copy of an original so damaged most of it could not be deciphered, and that (again) every predicted event occurred well before the book's "discovery" in 1982.
We are still faced with junk by the whole "three solar eclipses,one lunar eclipse" thing. There are dozens of lunar and solar eclipses taking place during the 20 year period of 1992 and 2012, not just four as the theory implies. There was a period between 2007 and 2008 that met the three and one criteria, but that just begs the question "Why didn't the world explode, evil picture book?" Don't ask. It doesn't know.


If all of these predictions are bogus (which they most certainly are), how do they manage to have 2012 in common? The History Channel, that's how. In late 2007, the History Channel ran a special about Nostradamus' lost book, stretching interpretations so thin you could make a doomsday crepe out of it. As with all of the above "prophecies," 2012 sites around the Internet took the ball and ran with it.
Pretty annoying, right? Well, get used to it. You've got about 17 more months.
 
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I've seen some of those history channel ones, and they're sensationalist and don't know anything useful. They get most of it all wrong. That's not Nostradamus' fault.
 
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this information came from Did Nostradamus Predict the 9-11 Attacks? - Urban Legends


September 12, 2001

NOSTRADAMUS, THE most famous astrologer who ever lived, was born in France in 1503 and published his barely scrutable collection of prophecies, The Centuries, in 1555. Each four-line verse (or "quatrain") purported to foretell world events far into the future, and ever since Nostradamus' time devotees have claimed his work accurately predicted wars, natural disasters and the rise and fall of empires.

Yet it's plain to see that Nostradamus couched his "prophetic" verses in language so obscure that the words can be, and have been, interpreted to mean almost anything. What's more, the interpreting is always done after the fact, with the benefit of hindsight, and with the concerted aim of proving the relevance of a given passage to an actual event.

If the aftermaths of past world catastrophes are any indication, we can expect to see a bumper crop of arcane tracts in the coming weeks and months purporting to show beyond a doubt that Nostradamus foresaw the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks of September 11, 2001. In fact, thanks to the efforts of anonymous Internet pranksters, the he-told-you-sos have already begun. "Spooky" quatrains allegedly foretelling the events of 9/11 with incredible specificity were circulating online within hours of the first jetliner crash in New York City — completely bogus quatrains, as it turned out. It wasn't a question of whether or not they accurately predicted anything; Nostradamus simply didn't write them.

New York, the 'City of God'???

The first quatrain to hit email inboxes on 9/11 contained the prediction that a "great thunder" would be heard in the "City of God":

"In the City of God there will be a great thunder, Two brothers torn apart by Chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb",
The third big war will begin when the big city is burning"


- Nostradamus 1654

Let the interpreting begin! Assuming "the City of God" is New York City, then the "two brothers torn apart by Chaos" must be the fallen towers of the Word Trade Center. The "fortress" is clearly the Pentagon, the "great leader" succumbing to Chaos must be the United States of America, and "the third big war" can only mean World War III.

Spooky, right?
Times it's best to think of Satan has and did have plans and he speaks to people all the time. This was not a man of God so he had no insights of God. The stars thing makes him a witch.
 
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That's just not accurate. Nostradamus was indeed a man of God, nominally a Catholic, though I doubt he believed the erroneous dogmas of the Catholic Church. He was not a witch, neither did he use astrology to predict the future. He could already do that. He used the astronomy part of astrology to indicate the dates of the events in his prophecies. He also wrote a letter to his son and one to the King of France, and in both of these it becomes clear that he was a Christian and a true believer.
 
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AnandaHya

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and satan quotes the bible

how can letters make anything clear?

the only person who can tell if a person is Christian or not is the Holy Spirit.
 
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That's just not accurate. Nostradamus was indeed a man of God, nominally a Catholic, though I doubt he believed the erroneous dogmas of the Catholic Church. He was not a witch, neither did he use astrology to predict the future. He could already do that. He used the astronomy part of astrology to indicate the dates of the events in his prophecies. He also wrote a letter to his son and one to the King of France, and in both of these it becomes clear that he was a Christian and a true believer.

Well I'm sorry to inform you but from what the bible says the Catholics are witches. Praying to dead people and all. Anything I ever studied about him he was pretty much a freak guy and I'm sure he heard voices of who me thinks demons. The worship of stars is in the bible too. Not good.