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Really it's awesome. Whoever is having the commandments and precepts of God in their inner man keeps him away from ungodliness and sinful acts and desires. It is the only way to stand on holiness as god expected to be in human beings.
1 John 3:9 No one born*of*God*makes a practice of*sinning, for*God's*seed*abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born*of*God.
While talking with Nicodemus Jesus emphasise this "born again experience." Each one of us should have experience in "new birth in Christ" or "new life in Christ" means we will get uncorruptiable seed of God in our soul (inner man). Once we got this experience in our life, then we will get transformation in mind, thinking and so on, also we will gain strength from God to fight against all evil and devilish actions.
John 3*[*You Must Be Born Again*] Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” ...
1 John 3:9 No one born*of*God*makes a practice of*sinning, for*God's*seed*abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born*of*God.
While talking with Nicodemus Jesus emphasise this "born again experience." Each one of us should have experience in "new birth in Christ" or "new life in Christ" means we will get uncorruptiable seed of God in our soul (inner man). Once we got this experience in our life, then we will get transformation in mind, thinking and so on, also we will gain strength from God to fight against all evil and devilish actions.
John 3*[*You Must Be Born Again*] Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” ...
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What you said it true.
Love of God transforms us greatly. This was happened with Peter. He wept bitterly because of love. Peter denied Jesus while on trial, also he turn to his job with other disciples. In both the times he realised his mistake and weakness and turned to God with deep sorrow, how it was happened? Because of love. We should understand the love of God and respect the same. Love of God never allow us to go ashtray.
Love of God transforms us greatly. This was happened with Peter. He wept bitterly because of love. Peter denied Jesus while on trial, also he turn to his job with other disciples. In both the times he realised his mistake and weakness and turned to God with deep sorrow, how it was happened? Because of love. We should understand the love of God and respect the same. Love of God never allow us to go ashtray.
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Here I would like to tell an important truth which I got revealed through the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ makes a call to everyone "whoever are having heavy ladden with burdens." He is clearly talking about rest or easing our burdens. Addition to this, while talking about his yoke, Jesus said "it is simple and easy". Not only this, he is willing to join with us in the same yoke to ease.
Mathew 11:28-30
Jesus said "Come to*me, all who labor and areheavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you, andlearn from me, for I am*gentle and lowly in heart, and*you will find rest for your souls.
For*my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
See the word "take my yoke upon you"
Generally every yoke is having two sides or two edges with some distance between the two edges. No yoke can be carry by a single person. One on one side the other on the other side. In india we are using Bullock-Carts everywhere. There we can see the yoke is tied with two animals. Both of them are jointly use for a specific purpose. One without other cant move alone. Each supports other to carry the load. The stong one put on right side of the yoke to lead and control the other.
Hence talking about my (Jesus) yoke, I believe strongly that Jesus is willing and agreeing to join in the yoke means he is joining with us to carry out duties of our life with holiness and righteousness. If we submit ourselves under the yoke with Jesus Christ, then we will be in success in all our works all the days of our life. Amen.
Mathew 11:28-30
Jesus said "Come to*me, all who labor and areheavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take my yoke upon you, andlearn from me, for I am*gentle and lowly in heart, and*you will find rest for your souls.
For*my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
See the word "take my yoke upon you"
Generally every yoke is having two sides or two edges with some distance between the two edges. No yoke can be carry by a single person. One on one side the other on the other side. In india we are using Bullock-Carts everywhere. There we can see the yoke is tied with two animals. Both of them are jointly use for a specific purpose. One without other cant move alone. Each supports other to carry the load. The stong one put on right side of the yoke to lead and control the other.
Hence talking about my (Jesus) yoke, I believe strongly that Jesus is willing and agreeing to join in the yoke means he is joining with us to carry out duties of our life with holiness and righteousness. If we submit ourselves under the yoke with Jesus Christ, then we will be in success in all our works all the days of our life. Amen.
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They're not difficult to follow and they're not easy to follow. Thanks for clearing that up. 
Luke 11:13
If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the*heavenly*Fathergive the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”
The spirits of just men were created perfect and then sealed so then,the reborn person Is already holy and truly righteous before GOD.
But living holy In the body here on earth comes after being reborn.
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Romans 12:1-2
King James Version(KJV)
1.)I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of GOD, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto GOD, which is your reasonable service.
2.)And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
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Ephesians 2:10
King James Version(KJV)
10.)For we are HIS workmanship, created in CHRIST JESUS unto good works, which GOD hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
But living holy In the body here on earth comes after being reborn.
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Romans 12:1-2
King James Version(KJV)
1.)I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of GOD, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto GOD, which is your reasonable service.
2.)And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
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Ephesians 2:10
King James Version(KJV)
10.)For we are HIS workmanship, created in CHRIST JESUS unto good works, which GOD hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
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Dear Peter Jens its true my good friend.
Openness is the best key which brings heavenly bliss, support, guidance and manyore. Pouring out our heart to Father in heaven brings good cheers in our life and makes us free from all kinds of troubles and evils. Hannah poured out her heart in the alter of God and got blessed with Samuel. Abraham poured out his heart to God and blessed with Isaac.
Here I am not only talking with blessings but many more. Joseph (Jesus' earthy father) had poured out his doubts concerning Mary' pregnancy and got wonderful answer from God with complete guidance and great security at every stages amazingly.
Apostle Paul sincerely admitted his wrong or miss understanding concerning Christ' godlyhood and accepted Him immediately with open heart.
Openness brings help, support and guidance from our Heavenly Father and enables us to be a victor in all our challenges and tasks and brings glory to God as well. Be open heart in our prayers. God knows everything well in advance, but He is expecting us to be honest in our prayers and admit everything openly. Amen...
Openness is the best key which brings heavenly bliss, support, guidance and manyore. Pouring out our heart to Father in heaven brings good cheers in our life and makes us free from all kinds of troubles and evils. Hannah poured out her heart in the alter of God and got blessed with Samuel. Abraham poured out his heart to God and blessed with Isaac.
Here I am not only talking with blessings but many more. Joseph (Jesus' earthy father) had poured out his doubts concerning Mary' pregnancy and got wonderful answer from God with complete guidance and great security at every stages amazingly.
Apostle Paul sincerely admitted his wrong or miss understanding concerning Christ' godlyhood and accepted Him immediately with open heart.
Openness brings help, support and guidance from our Heavenly Father and enables us to be a victor in all our challenges and tasks and brings glory to God as well. Be open heart in our prayers. God knows everything well in advance, but He is expecting us to be honest in our prayers and admit everything openly. Amen...
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Amen...
Its true. In Old Testament God instructed us to obey or do accordingly by our own. In Exodus 20 we have seen these following phrases "you shall not and you shall do" repeatedly many times.
But in New Covenant Ezekiel 36:23-38 God promises as our redeemer and helper. Here you can see the following phrases " I will and I will do" repeatedly many times.
Matthew 11:28-30 also emphasises the same truth.
Its true. In Old Testament God instructed us to obey or do accordingly by our own. In Exodus 20 we have seen these following phrases "you shall not and you shall do" repeatedly many times.
But in New Covenant Ezekiel 36:23-38 God promises as our redeemer and helper. Here you can see the following phrases " I will and I will do" repeatedly many times.
Matthew 11:28-30 also emphasises the same truth.
I am sad today, because I discovered the doctrine of imputed righteousness is a
reformation invention.
It makes me sad because so many have automatically assumed this idea without
asking why?
RCC tackles the world by use of dedication so monks, nuns, priests.
Ascetism is their root to taming the flesh, but is doomed to failure.
So if sexual desire is our nemesis, is there a solution? The Holy Spirit, and
an open heart.
It is obvious from the early church fathers writings, they believed walking in
obedience to Christ was part of following and living a Holy life. So they support
the whole obedience road leading to victory, rather than the live as you are
but faith is enough.
Paul preaching about his message:-
To the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds in keeping with their repentance.
Acts 26:20
reformation invention.
It makes me sad because so many have automatically assumed this idea without
asking why?
RCC tackles the world by use of dedication so monks, nuns, priests.
Ascetism is their root to taming the flesh, but is doomed to failure.
So if sexual desire is our nemesis, is there a solution? The Holy Spirit, and
an open heart.
It is obvious from the early church fathers writings, they believed walking in
obedience to Christ was part of following and living a Holy life. So they support
the whole obedience road leading to victory, rather than the live as you are
but faith is enough.
Paul preaching about his message:-
To the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, performing deeds in keeping with their repentance.
Acts 26:20
gb9 - It does not help your cause to simply lie continually about what I am saying.
How is it you have no integrity? I seek merely for the truth and how scripture and
church history have worked out.
The issue has always been people freely say "I have faith in Jesus" "I believe on the cross"
yet their lives often lead them astray and their desires get the better of them.
So though we as believers trust in the testimony we commit ourselves to there is still a
deep conflict within.
Now if one accepts once cleansed and forgiven we are pure and holy, then the question
is how are we deemed righteous even though we stumble. If this was not so, we would
loose our relationship with Christ. The key appears to be our faith is reconned as righteousness,
so a long as our faith holds strong we still have hope.
Our walk or righteousness is the fruit of our faith and relationship with Christ.
So to maintain our relationship we will repent and confess our sin and walk in a way pleasing to
our Lord because that likewise is the passion of our hearts.
Now in truth your opposition has been not to deny the theology but to continually lie
about what I am saying which suggests to me you have zero problem with sin and destroying the
very life, if you have any, with Christ. And this is what matters above all else, nothing is more
important, neither family, friends, work, society, life or death.
So I know who you are, so feel free to rail against me and what I am saying, because it will not
stop the gospel or Christ or His Kingdom. But God bless you, and may you find His truth that sets
you free from the bondage you are living under.
How is it you have no integrity? I seek merely for the truth and how scripture and
church history have worked out.
The issue has always been people freely say "I have faith in Jesus" "I believe on the cross"
yet their lives often lead them astray and their desires get the better of them.
So though we as believers trust in the testimony we commit ourselves to there is still a
deep conflict within.
Now if one accepts once cleansed and forgiven we are pure and holy, then the question
is how are we deemed righteous even though we stumble. If this was not so, we would
loose our relationship with Christ. The key appears to be our faith is reconned as righteousness,
so a long as our faith holds strong we still have hope.
Our walk or righteousness is the fruit of our faith and relationship with Christ.
So to maintain our relationship we will repent and confess our sin and walk in a way pleasing to
our Lord because that likewise is the passion of our hearts.
Now in truth your opposition has been not to deny the theology but to continually lie
about what I am saying which suggests to me you have zero problem with sin and destroying the
very life, if you have any, with Christ. And this is what matters above all else, nothing is more
important, neither family, friends, work, society, life or death.
So I know who you are, so feel free to rail against me and what I am saying, because it will not
stop the gospel or Christ or His Kingdom. But God bless you, and may you find His truth that sets
you free from the bondage you are living under.
Who are the main proponents of imputed righteousness?
I wonder if they can accept this is an invented doctrine from 1500 bc.
The main dilemma they were solving is faith alone makes you saved, but how if
you are a defiled sinner lost with the inability to walk righteously.
So it is a legitimate solution to this problem, if this is the spiritual problem of faith.
Now is faith about joining a group for reassurance or finding reality?
In all honesty it is about finding relative reality as far as we know today.
There is always risk and disappointment. I know this after facing the question do I
launch forward and explore life and Christ, or withdraw and stop discussing such questions
feeling settled in the current point of my revelation? I took the exploration road, as in
Christ I have nothing to fear. But my brothers in faith are not so sure, and would rather
stick with their indoctrination than put their trust in Christ and His cross.
I wonder if they can accept this is an invented doctrine from 1500 bc.
The main dilemma they were solving is faith alone makes you saved, but how if
you are a defiled sinner lost with the inability to walk righteously.
So it is a legitimate solution to this problem, if this is the spiritual problem of faith.
Now is faith about joining a group for reassurance or finding reality?
In all honesty it is about finding relative reality as far as we know today.
There is always risk and disappointment. I know this after facing the question do I
launch forward and explore life and Christ, or withdraw and stop discussing such questions
feeling settled in the current point of my revelation? I took the exploration road, as in
Christ I have nothing to fear. But my brothers in faith are not so sure, and would rather
stick with their indoctrination than put their trust in Christ and His cross.
The main proponents that we are made righteous in Christ is God Himself followed by many witnesses of which the apostle Paul is one.
We are just as righteous as Christ Himself is.
Remember the Lord Jesus Christ Himself brought the revelation of what happened from the cross to the throne to Paul. Paul's epistle's explains what happened to the believer that died with Christ and rose again with Him to newness of life and became a new creation - created in righteousness and holiness.
The understanding of the gift of righteousness is vital for growing up in the Lord. We are joined as one spirit with Him. 1 Cor. 6:17
Get this wrong and we create our own religion of D.I.Y self-righteousness/holiness that actually nullifies the very grace of God that we need to walk out in our life and reflect what really happened to us in our inner man - the new heart that has been created in Christ.
We are just as righteous as Christ Himself is.
Remember the Lord Jesus Christ Himself brought the revelation of what happened from the cross to the throne to Paul. Paul's epistle's explains what happened to the believer that died with Christ and rose again with Him to newness of life and became a new creation - created in righteousness and holiness.
The understanding of the gift of righteousness is vital for growing up in the Lord. We are joined as one spirit with Him. 1 Cor. 6:17
Get this wrong and we create our own religion of D.I.Y self-righteousness/holiness that actually nullifies the very grace of God that we need to walk out in our life and reflect what really happened to us in our inner man - the new heart that has been created in Christ.
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