Divisions In the Church

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MYSAVIORJESUSCHRIST

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Can the true Church be divided?:confused:

Why are there over 33,000 divisions or denominations?

Do they all believe in the essentials of the Faith?

What are they not agreeing on?
 
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Now I haven't read up on all 33,000 denominations but I have been to quite a few different denominations throughout my walk and I can say the essentials for salvation was there. Some focused more on singing and worship while others preaching. Some focused a lot more on the healing ministry etc.. I think heresy gets thrown around way to much and this person and that person is a false prophet. Do I believe in false prophets? Yep I sure do. I don't think every minister around the corner that you disagree with is a false prophet though. Just my thoughts.
 

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Can the true Church be divided?:confused:
1 Corinthians 11:18-19 KJVS
[18] For first of all, when ye come together in the church, I hear that there be divisions among you; and I partly believe it. [19] For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.
 
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oldthennew

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JOHN 10:16.
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring,
and they shall hear My voice; and there shall be one fold, and one Shepherd.
 
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JOHN 10:16.
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring,
and they shall hear My voice; and there shall be one fold, and one Shepherd.
I think that's refering to Jews and Gentiles.
 
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biblicalsandy

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Every denominations grab their water balloons...lol just being silly!

 
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Can the true Church be divided?:confused:

Why are there over 33,000 divisions or denominations?

Do they all believe in the essentials of the Faith?

What are they not agreeing on?
No doubt there has to be differences( non agreement) among you to show which of you has Gods approval 1cor 11:19

If there aren't different denominations,,
people cant take the view they have all important truth others don't have or follow.
But unity comes through the holy spirit( phil2:2) maybe in biblical times there was much more relying on, or following after the holy spirit, so then there was only one actual denomination if you like
 

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The 30,000+ Protestant denominations argument is an extreme
exaggeration of the reality of the divisions within Protestantism.

^ Which of the 30,000 Protestant denominations is the true church of God?

Webster calls a 'denomination' "a religious organization uniting local congregations in a single legal and administrative body." The category called "Protestantism," since it does not actually "unite" any local congregation into a "single legal and administrative body," is more accurately a grouping of denominations rather than a denomination, according to Webster's definition.

^ How Many Protestant Denominations Are There? the 20,000 30,000 numbers and David Barrett's statistics
 
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I'd be interested to see the chart of statistics of that 33,000 denominations and churches.. does anyone have one? Is it broken down to each of the less than 15 main denominations of churches?

Unless I'm proved mistaken, I'm thinking that the 33,000 is the denominational names of the churches, which is not the same as being that many denominations. For example, there are many Baptist church names.. many Methodist church names.. etc.
 

posthuman

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Can the true Church be divided?:confused:

Why are there over 33,000 divisions or denominations?
as an aside, when a mormon comes to your door and this is the first thing they say,
you can remind them that in less than 200 years, the mormon church itself has divided into almost 100 distinct splinter groups.
 
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good question...kinda like...Pentecostal, United Pentecostal...Free Pentecostal... Bound Pentecostal (..just kdding' ya..unless there is one by that name? )


I'd be interested to see the chart of statistics of that 33,000 denominations and churches.. does anyone have one? Is it broken down to each of the less than 15 main denominations of churches?

Unless I'm proved mistaken, I'm thinking that the 33,000 is the denominational names of the churches, which is not the same as being that many denominations. For example, there are many Baptist church names.. many Methodist church names.. etc.
 

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the lost century in history

as Edward Gibbon wrote in
The History of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire

"The scanty materials of ecclesiastical history seldom enable us to dispel
the cloud that hangs over the first age of the church .


Jesse Lyman Hurlbert in
The story of the christian church

the age just after the book of acts he calls "..the age of shadows.."

"of all the periods in the churches history, it is the one about which we know
the least about. For fifty years after St. Paul's life a curtain hangs over the church,
through which we strive vainly to look;


William McLaughlin in
The Course of Christian History

"But Christianity itself had been in the process of transformation as it progressed
and at the close of the period was in many respects

quite different from the apostolic Christianity."



Samuel G. Green in
A handbook of church History

"The thirty years which followed the close of the New Testement canon and the
destruction of Jerusalem, are in truth the most obscure in the history of the church.
When we emerge in the second century, we are to a great extent in a changed world."



William fitzgerald in
lectures on ecclesiastical History

"over this period of transition, which immediatly succeeds upon
the era properly called apostolic, great obscurity hangs."



Philip Schaff in
History of the Christian Church

"The remaining thirty years of the first century are involved in mysterious darkness,
illuminated only by the writings of John. This is a period of church history about which
we know least and would like to know most."

"Simon Magus unquestionably adulterated Christianity with pagon ideas and practices
and gave himself out for an emanation of God."

"This heresy in the second century spread over the whole church, east and west,
in the various schools of agnosticism."


- - -Satan was doing everything he could to destroy the Work of God and his new church,
and in little more than two decades, God’s people were turning to another gospel.

this was the time of the Roman Empire , and in around 117 AD, at its greatest extent.
streched from Britian clear to modern day Turkey, and it ruled with the rod of iron.
 
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the lost century in history

as Edward Gibbon wrote in
The History of the decline and fall of the Roman Empire

"The scanty materials of ecclesiastical history seldom enable us to dispel
the cloud that hangs over the first age of the church .


Jesse Lyman Hurlbert in
The story of the christian church

the age just after the book of acts he calls "..the age of shadows.."

"of all the periods in the churches history, it is the one about which we know
the least about. For fifty years after St. Paul's life a curtain hangs over the church,
through which we strive vainly to look;


William McLaughlin in
The Course of Christian History

"But Christianity itself had been in the process of transformation as it progressed
and at the close of the period was in many respects

quite different from the apostolic Christianity."



Samuel G. Green in
A handbook of church History

"The thirty years which followed the close of the New Testement canon and the
destruction of Jerusalem, are in truth the most obscure in the history of the church.
When we emerge in the second century, we are to a great extent in a changed world."



William fitzgerald in
lectures on ecclesiastical History

"over this period of transition, which immediatly succeeds upon
the era properly called apostolic, great obscurity hangs."



Philip Schaff in
History of the Christian Church

"The remaining thirty years of the first century are involved in mysterious darkness,
illuminated only by the writings of John. This is a period of church history about which
we know least and would like to know most."

"Simon Magus unquestionably adulterated Christianity with pagon ideas and practices
and gave himself out for an emanation of God."

"This heresy in the second century spread over the whole church, east and west,
in the various schools of agnosticism."


- - -Satan was doing everything he could to destroy the Work of God and his new church,
and in little more than two decades, God’s people were turning to another gospel.

this was the time of the Roman Empire , and in around 117 AD, at its greatest extent.
streched from Britian clear to modern day Turkey, and it ruled with the rod of iron.
I rest my case....for now.
 

Joidevivre

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I don't think there are even two people who are on the same "wave length" with the Lord in matters of doctrinal understanding or even experience. We are all so unique. Even with the confession that Jesus Christ is our Lord, if you asked each person to write out their understanding of that, it would all be so different.

We are all at various stages of "faith to faith", "milk to meat", "glory to glory", "spiritual babes to mature Christians". And sometimes we just attend the church that meets us where we are at.
 

p_rehbein

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And, again, this comes up..............EVEN THE APOSTLES DISAGREED............
 
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AboundingGrace

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good question...kinda like...Pentecostal, United Pentecostal...Free Pentecostal... Bound Pentecostal (..just kdding' ya..unless there is one by that name? )
Well, on that.. you apparently know as much as I do, but I'll add these.. the Assemblies of God, and the Charismatics.. all of those such so called non-denominational groups.

:)
 

Joidevivre

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Then there are the many many home church cells - mainly nondenominational.