Do Catholics and Muslims worship the same God?

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watcher2013

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From the Catechism of Catholic Church

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."[SUP]330[/SUP]

Based from the above catechism and as highlighted in red, Do Catholics and Muslims worship the same god?
 
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(...) Based from the above catechism and as highlighted in red, Do Catholics and Muslims worship the same god?
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The RCC apparently likes to think so, but I'm pretty sure most muslims wouldn't agree with it.
 
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Almost exactly half the Christians say yes, and half say no. Much of the disagreement is over the correct translation of the word "Allah".
 
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kenisyes said:
Almost exactly half the Christians say yes, and half say no. Much of the disagreement is over the correct translation of the word "Allah".
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Has nothing to do with doctrine but laying the basis for the one world church. The one the antichrist will use to attempt to destroy Israel. The Catholics think they are going to be in control but Islam will make any deal only to renege and seize power.

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watcher2013 said:
From the Catechism of Catholic Church

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."[SUP]330[/SUP]

Based from the above catechism and as highlighted in red, Do Catholics and Muslims worship the same god?
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There is only one God.
 
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My neighbor who is an ex nun and works in the catholic church visits me daily, and we speak together daily about our Lord. We pray together. She tells me what she knows of the bible. We disagree about ways she is worshipping, it is true, but this woman knows the one true God.

I have looked at the catholic belief enough to know I would never choose that church to worship, but I also would never choose to set myself up as a judge of all who go there. Nor would I condemn the work they do to bring the gospel of Christ to people.

I think most of our churches have strayed a bit from the path God wants us to follow, and I feel so sure of it that I do all I can to pull people closer to strictly scripture. This includes much study and prayer, and a constant prayer for me to be humble before my God, not arrogant in saying how I know, but only reporting from God's word and always willing to learn from God.

I have also looked at the Muslims. I find that they have changed even the name of God, what they worship is not God at all. They have taken some characteristics of God to give to what they have made up. That does not make their god anything but fake.
 
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chestertonrules said:
There is only one God.
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True, but that one true God had a Son whom he sent to die for our sins, which Islam rejects (Jesus dying for our sins) and there fore has a different god. In others words you can't have the same God sending His Son...and not sending His Son (in Islam there is no Son of God) at the same time.
 
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Muslims worship the God of Abraham. So I guess we worship what the catholics call God the father.
 
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I remember the pastor talking about it some. I don't remember it real well. In the beginning, I believed that to be true. I became doubtful and started thinking about different things like what was mentioned here. I do not believe today that the two are one and the same. Something is off there and I know part of it starts with wanting peace at all costs. I don't think that's what Jesus wanted.

Also, I didn't get what the correlation was between God, the Father, the Son and the Muslim God of Abraham. I started to consider that maybe the God of Abraham really was the Son of God? I would not even know how to verify or dispute that. I just wonder if the God that talked with Moses was God the Son, pre-Jesus. That would explain why there would be no son. No, I wasn't taught that. It just came to me as I thought about this. I'd read the reference if someone posted a link.
 
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841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."3
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We should ask Catholics

2C 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

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Muslims are worshiping the Jehovah God. the God of old testament. Now who is Jehovah is another question. For me it is Jesus Christ.
 
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Sanashankar said:
We should ask Catholics

2C 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?



Muslims are worshiping the Jehovah God. the God of old testament. Now who is Jehovah is another question. For me it is Jesus Christ.
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Not necessarily, God punishes and discipline those who sin. I don't think I have heard of Muslims say Allah corrects them in such a manner, or any manner. But I could be wrong. There is huge difference between Yahweh and the false god Allah. They may share similar stories and laws such as Moses in some cases and such. But they display different way in a whole strayed off truth. (Sorry for nudging in this convo). One is true the other false.
 
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watcher2013 said:
From the Catechism of Catholic Church

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."[SUP]330[/SUP]

Based from the above catechism and as highlighted in red, Do Catholics and Muslims worship the same god?
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Oh and btw:
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

(John 14:6)


Nuf said...

 
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Not necessarily, God punishes and discipline those who sin. I don't think I have heard of Muslims say Allah corrects them in such a manner, or any manner. But I could be wrong. There is huge difference between Yahweh and the false god Allah. They may share similar stories and laws such as Moses in some cases and such. But they display different way in a whole strayed off truth. (Sorry for nudging in this convo). One is true the other false.
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You are right... i agree to that. i was just "technically" speaking" ;)
 
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Bryancampbell said:
Not necessarily, God punishes and discipline those who sin. I don't think I have heard of Muslims say Allah corrects them in such a manner, or any manner. But I could be wrong. There is huge difference between Yahweh and the false god Allah. They may share similar stories and laws such as Moses in some cases and such. But they display different way in a whole strayed off truth. (Sorry for nudging in this convo). One is true the other false.
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Concerning punishment. Hell is only permanent for people who do not believe in God or attribute partners with God. For the rest, hell is a process of cleansing sins. Once your sins have been cleansed you can go to paradise. I guess it is close to the Catholics idea of purgatory.

There are levels in hell depending on your sin. Your punishment matches your sin. The least punished person in hell will have two hot coals put under the sole of his feet which will cause his brain to boil like boiling water in a pot. Best not to spend anytime in hell.
 
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Drett said:
Concerning punishment. Hell is only permanent for people who do not believe in God or attribute partners with God. For the rest, hell is a process of cleansing sins. Once your sins have been cleansed you can go to paradise. I guess it is close to the Catholics idea of purgatory.

There are levels in hell depending on your sin. Your punishment matches your sin. The least punished person in hell will have two hot coals put under the sole of his feet which will cause his brain to boil like boiling water in a pot. Best not to spend anytime in hell.
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This is if you die unrepentant.
 
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Drett said:
Muslims worship the God of Abraham. So I guess we worship what the catholics call God the father.
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no, drett, according to the Father's Word:

1 John 2:23
22Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son. 23Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father; the one who confesses the Son has the Father also.

i love you
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True but did you read Romans 1:23? Islam and the Catholics will unite around Mary. Jesus will not be in the equation.

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Gibberish.

Catholics, including Mary, are united around Christ.
 
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