Do We Really Have the Gift of the Holy Spirit's Truth????

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2ndTimothyGroup

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Agree with you 100%. A lot of false doctrines that many believe that don't save souls. One such pervasive doctrine as an example that you constantly hear on TV commercials, such as those by Franklin Graham that many have bought into, is being saved by simply recting a prayer and asking Jesus into your heart. Totally unscriptural and totally unsaving.
You know what is absolutely amazing? These people that we are referencing, their hearts already confirm that they don't REALLY understand the Gospel and what all is involved in that Gospel, also known as the Story of God. Yet, yet . . . they do not possess the desire to know and understand that remarkable Story of God, the True Gospel of Jesus Christ. The NLT quotes Paul as referring to the "Mysterious Plan" in both Ephesians and Colossians, yet who ever thought to themselves . . . "My goodness. I don't think that I can honestly explain this Plan and why it is a Mystery, kept hidden by the Lord until "now," the Holy Days of the Apostle Paul."

Doesn't that amaze you? Isn't it amazing that there are so many Biblical Wizards, here, yet which of them references the seven most remarkable verses in the Bible . . . the utter Core of the Bible? There are only an extreme few who are willing to use the remarkable Word, "Circumcision?" Why do we refuse to acknowledge the Actual Gospel of Jesus Christ? Why do we not understand His Holy Purpose, Work, and Effect?

Colossians 2:9-15 NLT - "For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body. 10 So you also are complete through your union with Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority. 11 When you came to Christ, you were "circumcised," but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision--the cutting away of your sinful nature. 12 For you were buried with Christ when you were baptized. And with him you were raised to new life because you trusted the mighty power of God, who raised Christ from the dead. 13 You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. 14 He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross. 15 In this way, he disarmed the spiritual rulers and authorities. He shamed them publicly by his victory over them on the cross."

The Bible revolves around these Seven incredible verses. What is more important than understanding that to be purified of the curse of the Lord, one must receive His Holy and Spiritual Circumcision of said Curse? Why do "christians" refuse to talk about this? When will they wake up and realize that this is what the "Mysterious Plan" centers upon? Fake christians need to stop being ashamed of the Gospel of Circumcision, but in order to discontinue in their shame, they first must be Spiritually Circumcised . . . ironic, isn't it?

So, when a person begins to realize what I have just clearly identified above, they won't be able to stop talking about it. When the Truth hits them square in the face, they want everyone to know this remarkable, Mysterious Plan. They want to share this Plan with those at church; with family; their closest friends. But because their hearts have not been released of the Curse that has bestowed upon them the mind of Satan, they remain in worldly fear, shame, and guilt. Those who remain in Spiritual uncircumcision, their minds are consumed with fear, shame, and guilt. As much as they will deny it (due to Spiritual Blindness and not a willful choice), they are consumed with such emotions. And if this is the case, there is virtually no possibility that this kind of person is willing to share the True Gospel of Christ . . . for, they aren't sure of what it actually is.
 

Blade

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A prophet before I was born he started preaching talked about all the different doctrines there and how they don't touch salvation. Look how he saw it. That man was lead by the sweet holy Spirit and no one denys that. Then we have (who I don't know) saying how some here and from worldly Churches are not real Christians.

The funny part and I did laugh but not any anyone but the irony of talking about the holy Spirit and being lead. Now think about that and reread this thread. Hmm the sweet holy Spirit is not going to tell me who is and who is not a believer here or from any Church. The only time He has shared things was the person was there or it could personally talk just to them but always to help to uplift or for one to warn. But that warning came because they came to me asking for help which gave God the right to tell me what was really going on (some will understand that others will not). Part is.. he was my best friend.. haha man He would come over (in LA) in the AM knocking saying "lets go fishing!" so many times. So we would. Well one night comes over asking for help and prayer. So I let him in and he started to tell me how he was selling himself for sex with men. The lord said "I warned him 3 times" So I said just that. He said 'you know every time I turned on the radio it was a Christian station or the Tv it was a Christian station. When I prayed for him wow I felt drained.. I could almost not stand back up.

Walking him to the car the lord said..if you do not change it will be 7 times worse then it is now. I cried now when I just typed this. Some hmm spit out warning to others as if GOD is speaking. For me when God tells you something like this.. you know something you never knew before about someone and.. this is real person and you NEVER EVER want to say these things. No one knows me so I can talk... I don't know why some can live a life time and never be warned yet others in there 20's get warned. Maybe some truly see understand God and know He is real. What happen to him? You don't want to know. I have learned that no matter what it is.. He always warns and we don't take the time to KNOW just who HE really is. He is GOD. Our words matter. We are made in His image. Anyway sorry..

We do know the 12 with Paul just them alone didn't always agree yet were they not all lead by the holy Spirit? There are so many more OT NT but..
 

oyster67

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Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit to lead His followers/disciples/apostles to 'ALL TRUTH'! John 16: "But when he comes, the Spirit of truth, he will guide you to all truth."
We are being guided toward it. Our communicating with each other right now is a part of that process.
 

oyster67

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A prophet before I was born he started preaching talked about all the different doctrines there and how they don't touch salvation.
Many differences and arguments do concern peripheral issues that are not part of the core salvation message. It is ok to have different ideas about minor details of future prophecy and the like.
 

Edify

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A prophet before I was born he started preaching talked about all the different doctrines there and how they don't touch salvation. Look how he saw it. That man was lead by the sweet holy Spirit and no one denys that. Then we have (who I don't know) saying how some here and from worldly Churches are not real Christians.
What is the falling away about if there's no fake christians?
I do suppose the name "backslidden christians should be used, but if those 'churches' have any new members, they can indeed be fake.