Do you believe this ?

[Pilgrimshope]

yes, clearly Leviticus 7 is not Pesach.

but my point was that there is a place in the law that requires leaven -- when giving a voluntary offering of peace and gratitude.

this is amazing

amen I agree and now consider what leaven really means in tbe nt

“So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭22:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[hornetguy]

as to where you can partake of communion? Any place where two or more are gathered in His name.
We always took communion when we were on vacation, camping in Colorado. There were 5 believers there, and we always took it.
My dad always commented as to how God made it such an easy thing to do, no need for pomp and circumstance... we are communing together and with our God.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

awe thanks bro 😊 thats nice of you to say so.
Au revoir l'ami (goodbye friend).

Grace and peace in the highest regard !!

 

[Inquisitor]

Bot really! It was the filoque clause that separated the RCC & the Orthodox Church!

I just googled this, and it is listed as a cause. I studied this in church history and in theology. Here is what I learned.

"The primary causes of the Schism were disputes over papal authority—the Pope claimed he held authority over the four Eastern Greek-speaking patriarchs, and over the insertion of the filioque clause into the Nicene Creed."

https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/e/East-West_Schism.htm#:~:text=The primary causes of the,clause into the Nicene Creed.

A more detailed account is found in a Wikipedia entry, which corresponds to what I learned.

"Filioque, Latin for "and (from) the Son", was added in Western Christianity to the Latin text of the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed, which also varies from the original Greek text in having the additional phrase Deum de Deo (God from God)[47][48] and in using the singular "I believe" (Latin, Credo, Greek Πιστεύω) instead of the original "We believe" (Greek Πιστεύομεν),[48] which Oriental Orthodoxy preserves.[c] The Assyrian Church of the East, which is in communion neither with the Eastern Orthodox Church nor with Oriental Orthodoxy, uses "We believe".[53]
Filioque states that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Son as well as from the Father, a doctrine accepted by the Catholic Church,[54] by Anglicanism[55] and by Protestant churches in general.[d] Christians of these groups generally include it when reciting the Nicene Creed. Nonetheless, these groups recognize that Filioque is not part of the original text established at the First Council of Constantinople in 381,[59]and they do not demand that others too should use it when saying the Creed.[60] Indeed, the Catholic Church does not add the phrase corresponding to Filioque (καὶ τοῦ Υἱοῦ) to the Greek text of the Creed, even in the liturgy for Latin Rite Catholics.[61]
At the 879–880 Council of Constantinople the Eastern Orthodox Church anathematized the Filioque phrase, "as a novelty and augmentation of the Creed", and in their 1848 encyclical the Eastern Patriarchs spoke of it as a heresy.[62] It was qualified as such by some of the Eastern Orthodox Church's saints, including Photios I of Constantinople, Mark of Ephesus, and Gregory Palamas, who have been called the Three Pillars of Orthodoxy. The Eastern church believes by the Western church inserting the Filioque unilaterally (without consulting or holding council with the East) into the Creed, that the Western Church broke communion with the East."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East–West_Schism

Theological speaking, the filioque clause is by far the most important cause of the Schism.

Here is a direct quotation from the source you quoted. (East-West Schism, wiki)

A series of ecclesiastical differences and theological disputes between the Greek East and Latin West preceded the formal split that occurred in 1054. Prominent among these were the procession of the Holy Spirit (Filioque), whether leavened or unleavened bread should be used in the Eucharist, the bishop of Rome's claim to universal jurisdiction, and the place of the See of Constantinople in relation to the pentarchy.

You may have been taught that one issue was more important, than the other two issues. That single issue was not why the schism occurred, there were three important issues.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Leavened bread, which is bread containing yeast, is forbidden during Passover because God gave Moses instructions to avoid yeast during the first Passover in Egypt and remove all yeast while celebrating Passover in the future.

Yes. That is correct. And there are two aspects to eating unleavened bread and purging yeast out of every household. Leaven and fermentation speaks of sin and corruption (which must be purged from our lives before the Lord's Supper). But unleavened bread represents the sinless body of Christ. Similarly the Passover lamb without spot or blemish represented Christ the Lamb of God who took away the sin of the world. And as the Israelites applied the blood of the lamb to their doorposts and lintels to avoid judgment, God applies the blood of Christ to every believing soul to purge us from our sins and to also forgive us our transgressions.

So (1) the Passover feast represented Christ, therefore He converted it to the Lord's Supper (2) Christ is in fact called "our Passover" in Scripture (3) Paul applied the symbol of "leaven" to malice and wickedness (or any kind of sin), and (4) since Christ FULFILLED the Feast of Passover, it is no longer valid to observe this feast. Instead Christians have the Lord's Supper, and before partaking of it each one must examine themselves. The bread and the cup are symbolic of the broken body and shed blood of Christ.

But there is more to this. It is ONE bread and ONE cup that is to be shared among the believers (not multiple cups and multiple crackers). Why? Because (1) the bread and cup represent the ONE sacrifice for sins forever and (2) all believers are in ONE Body with Christ as the Head. "Communion" is actually koinonia, which means fellowship. So all believers at the Lord's Table are showing (1) fellowship with Christ and (2) fellowship with each other. Which makes the Lord's Supper a time of worship -- fellowshipping with God and Christ and sharing the same broken bread and the same cup (unfermented).

 

[Fundaamental]

Grace and peace in the highest regard !!

merci l'ami, (Thankyou friend) 🙂. if I'm understanding this correctly, when Jesus says I am the bread of life, what he is saying is he is the spiritual bread of life.
And we can not live without him in our life's,

The bread that fell from heaven for 4O years was to be shared equally,
And God said take a cup full each (actually he said take a small Pacific amount each). But some people never some took bucket fulls for themselves and never shared.

Jesus said the same thing take a piece of bread and break it up and share it out amongst yourselves. On the last supper 🙂.
And they did and they ate but the one who wasnt for sharing coughed it up.

Jesus knows the shares and the scoffs

He rewards the shares but not the scoffs.

So then we should also share when we come here 🙂❤️🙏👍


I love bread but I didn't know about unleavened bread for passover but I will next year 🙂.

Au revoir l'ami 🙂.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

merci l'ami, (Thankyou friend) 🙂. if I'm understanding this correctly, when Jesus says I am the bread of life, what he is saying is he is the spiritual bread of life.
And we can not live without him in our life's,

The bread that fell from heaven for 4O years was to be shared equally,
And God said take a cup full each (actually he said take a small Pacific amount each). But some people never some took bucket fulls for themselves and never shared.

Jesus said the same thing take a piece of bread and break it up and share it out amongst yourselves. On the last supper 🙂.
And they did and they ate but the one who wasnt for sharing coughed it up.

Jesus knows the shares and the scoffs

He rewards the shares but not the scoffs.

So then we should also share when we come here 🙂❤️🙏👍


I love bread but I didn't know about unleavened bread for passover but I will next year 🙂.

Au revoir l'ami 🙂.

Amen great post !! Thanks for sharing

 

[SomeDisciple]

When I thought I was looking for something else in the scripture, this verse stood out to me today.

13But we should always thank God for you, brothers who are loved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginninga to be saved by the sanctification of the Spirit and by faith in the truth. 14To this He called you through our gospel, so that you may share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15Therefore, brothers, stand firm and cling to the traditions we taught you, whether by speech or by letter.

 

[Nehemiah6]

15Therefore, brothers, stand firm and cling to the traditions we taught you, whether by speech or by letter.

So what does "traditions" mean in this context?

The Greek word paradosis is translated as "traditions" but it is not what is commonly understood. It means "that which is handed down" or "that which is delivered" from Christ. Christ "handed down" to the apostles the teachings which were necessary for the Church. The apostles in turn handed down these divine teachings to faithful men, who handed them down to the next generation. However these "traditions" were very quickly corrupted, so what we have in the Bible is what should be taken as apostolic traditions. What is called "Holy Tradition" by the Catholic Church is a mixture of truth and error.

 

[Brigitte_fr]

I always consider taking communion a serious matter.
For me taking communion is an honor. It is a time for me to humbly come before God and thank Him for Jesus' sacrifice for us, for me. It reminds me that because of what Jesus came among us to do, it made it possible for me to be saved.
There never has been a time when taking communion was offered that I didn't participate. If at that time I felt guilty of some sin, I knew it was the perfect time to sincerely ask for His forgiveness, His help and guidance and then to thank Him for His gift of salvation.
God doesn't want us to stay away from Him. He always has an "open door policy" for His children, especially when they mess up. Just like we, parents, never reject our children even when they screw up. It is when they mess up that they need us the most.
God's love in UNconditional. It is that amazing love that makes our hearts melt when we feel that we've reached our lowest.
We should not stay away or be fearful to take communion when we feel we don't deserve to do it. On the contrary, it is the best time to come at His feet and cry and ask for His forgiveness and thank Him for His amazing grace!

 

[Cameron143]

Communion is an act of obedience...This do...

Communion is a memorial...This do in remembrance of me...

Communion is a proclamation...You proclaim His death until He comes...

Communion is the communion of the body of Christ...For we being many are one bread, and one body...

Communion is the gospel proclaimed visually and in it we spiritually feed upon Christ. He is the bread of life.

We should refrain from communion if we are practicing sin and not confessing it and seeking forgiveness for it. But the table should not be so sanitized that sinners should not partake. Like baptism, it is for believers. But Christ had no problem being numbered with transgressors.

 

[Inquisitor]

Where did you discover that? Passover and unleavened bread have always gone together, followed by the Feast of Unleavened Bread (not crackers).

It took a 1000 years to reach the Great Schism. It's been a 1000 years since then, now where back at square one.

Leavened or unleavened bread?

Mwhaaaaaaaaa.