Do you enjoy serious Bible study?
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Willie, the issue is not about right and wrong.
No language translates fully on a word-for-word basis into another.
Every Bible translation has to try and find a sweet spot between two opposing goals.
The first is how literal the translation is.
The second is trying to communicate meaning.
Lets give a simple example.
(I know something of this because of the missions background that I have.)
The phrase "pure as driven snow" is something any native English speaker understands.
However in some cultures that I have worked in their are several problems trying to communicate the sense of what that phrase actually means or even trying to translate it literally.
In many African languages that I know there is no word for snow.
They may also not even know that snow is white.
To complicate matters further in some of those cultures the colour white is not synonymous with purity or cleanliness either.
In this instance trying to translate that phrase literally into these languages is impossible because the vocabulary of that language does not have the appropriate words, and even if it did, then the meaning of that phrase would be well and truly lost on that audience.
Overall the various translations have done an excellent job.
Where there variations in translation all that tells me is that there are interesting depths to be plumbed.
In other words a single sentence or phrase in English just does not convey the rich fullness of what the original language is communicating.
I read a couple of your other posts as well.
I agree that studying whole sections (even whole books) at a time is the best by far.
The more Scripture is chopped up into smaller and smaller parts the greater the likelihood of misinterpretation.
However, if you have the time and energy it is well worth becoming familiar with the original languages.
The point is not so much whether others have discovered what you might find or not, but, rather what you find and discover and how that enriches your walk with God.
No language translates fully on a word-for-word basis into another.
Every Bible translation has to try and find a sweet spot between two opposing goals.
The first is how literal the translation is.
The second is trying to communicate meaning.
Lets give a simple example.
(I know something of this because of the missions background that I have.)
The phrase "pure as driven snow" is something any native English speaker understands.
However in some cultures that I have worked in their are several problems trying to communicate the sense of what that phrase actually means or even trying to translate it literally.
In many African languages that I know there is no word for snow.
They may also not even know that snow is white.
To complicate matters further in some of those cultures the colour white is not synonymous with purity or cleanliness either.
In this instance trying to translate that phrase literally into these languages is impossible because the vocabulary of that language does not have the appropriate words, and even if it did, then the meaning of that phrase would be well and truly lost on that audience.
Overall the various translations have done an excellent job.
Where there variations in translation all that tells me is that there are interesting depths to be plumbed.
In other words a single sentence or phrase in English just does not convey the rich fullness of what the original language is communicating.
I read a couple of your other posts as well.
I agree that studying whole sections (even whole books) at a time is the best by far.
The more Scripture is chopped up into smaller and smaller parts the greater the likelihood of misinterpretation.
However, if you have the time and energy it is well worth becoming familiar with the original languages.
The point is not so much whether others have discovered what you might find or not, but, rather what you find and discover and how that enriches your walk with God.
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Neither.
I enjoy serious Bible study.
When I have time this is what I would do before kids and when I was a carefree college student...
1. Read one whole book straight through in one seating.
2, look up the verses that are linked in the New King James Bible.
3. Go back and read book by chapter after researching historical content.
4, find all prophecies concerning Jesus in OT books or instructions of how to live godly lives in both OT and NT.
When I think serious Bible study, I think reading the whole bible and looking deeper to the spiritual message of hope and redemption...like Jesus revealed during the walk to Emmaus.
,.,,there is more but I need more water..got head ache.
I enjoy serious Bible study.
When I have time this is what I would do before kids and when I was a carefree college student...
1. Read one whole book straight through in one seating.
2, look up the verses that are linked in the New King James Bible.
3. Go back and read book by chapter after researching historical content.
4, find all prophecies concerning Jesus in OT books or instructions of how to live godly lives in both OT and NT.
When I think serious Bible study, I think reading the whole bible and looking deeper to the spiritual message of hope and redemption...like Jesus revealed during the walk to Emmaus.
,.,,there is more but I need more water..got head ache.
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Was walking the knife edge of a ridge when a thunderstorm rolled in. Praise God He allowed me to backpack down before the clouds opened up. Never seen or heard lightning so close. We were walking in clouds earlier.
To serious study the Bible, you have to live what Jesus teaches...prayer, washing feet and serving others, valuing them and their needs above yourself, loving them as God does..unconditionally.
To serious study the Bible, you have to live what Jesus teaches...prayer, washing feet and serving others, valuing them and their needs above yourself, loving them as God does..unconditionally.
hey i ain't saying that a search bar is not a wonderful thing, or a resource that gives you definitions and usages of particular words, and/or cross-references.
i thank God for the ability to use an electronic version of the scripture and search it for phrases and words. for all those things.
but a craftsman with 1,000 tools -- or better as an analogy, a warrior with 1,000 swords -- and no skill, and no Master to teach him, is less useful than a peasant who knows how to use a stick, or an artist who has nothing but a jacknife and a scrap of sandpaper.
we need the Spirit, and we need to immerse ourselves in Him, and in the word. that's when i think we're being "serious"
this takes prayer, and fasting, and devotion, and meditating on the word.
ok ok i'm happy now LOL
i gotta go to sleep.
i hope your headache improves! make sure you are hydrated. and lie down if you need to.
i lost an entire 36 hours last week to migraines so bad i was vomiting from the pain
so i hope you can think, not so bad is it could be! haha
but take care of it
and good nite, all
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The Bible isn't just words written on a page, it's not just a book. God writes His truth in our hearts and we recognise His voice in His love letters which is what the Bible is.
Do you cling to the letters or do you cling to the Lord?
It troubles me to see so many Christian Bible illiterate and afraid to pray. It humbles me to need help and be supported by my trail mates.
The Bible is just one way God speaks to His people. Our focus should be on Him and not one just printed words (i still strongly recommend reading through the whole Bible at least one within a month.)
Headache..gonna pray.
Do you cling to the letters or do you cling to the Lord?
It troubles me to see so many Christian Bible illiterate and afraid to pray. It humbles me to need help and be supported by my trail mates.
The Bible is just one way God speaks to His people. Our focus should be on Him and not one just printed words (i still strongly recommend reading through the whole Bible at least one within a month.)
Headache..gonna pray.
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ok ok i'm happy now LOL
i gotta go to sleep.
i hope your headache improves! make sure you are hydrated. and lie down if you need to.
i lost an entire 36 hours last week to migraines so bad i was vomiting from the pain
so i hope you can think, not so bad is it could be! haha
but take care of it
and good nite, all
Will pray for your healing. May God great you peace and wisdom to know what His will is. Jesus we need you.
:smoke: indeed all my brethren
as it is written
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Mga Hebreo: 3. 7. Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
8. Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9. When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10. Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
11. So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) 12. Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
15. While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation. 16. For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
17. But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? 18. And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
19. So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
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godbless us all always
as it is written
:read:
Mga Hebreo: 3. 7. Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
8. Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9. When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10. Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
11. So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.) 12. Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13. But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14. For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
15. While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation. 16. For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
17. But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? 18. And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
19. So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
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godbless us all always
