Do you ever fell like you're talking to a stone wall?

[Domenic]

Some member of this forum seem Upset because I said, “Adam and Eve had sex with an animal. That’s why we die. We are infected with animal seed.”

Let me explain it a different way;
Those of us who have children. If one of our children did something we told them not to do, and we punished them, would we also punish our grand children for what our child did? And to go further, would we punish our grand children’s children, and on and on for thousands of years…no we would not.
We would not punish anyone other than the first child who did wrong. We are human…we have compassion.
So tell me, what makes you think God would do that? Do we have more Compassion than God? No.
If God had no compassion, and wanted us to die, why did he send his son to die for us? We did not do Adams sin. We are victims of what Adam and Eve did. Adam and Eve died at a judgment from God, not from what they did. So why do we die? Adam, and Eve had to do something they passed off to us.

God called Satan a murderer. Who did he murder? Not Adam and Eve. Who? There was no other humans there. He had to be a murderer because God called him one, and God does not lie. Satan murdered our race that was unborn. We are not dieing from a judgment from God. God is not punishing use.
The first child in Genesis is Seth…Cain and Able are not in that list. So who was their father?
The Bible speaks over, and over about trees, and seeds. Each time it is referring to humans. Adam and Eave could not eat the fruit of one tree, Elizabeth said when Jesus was in Mary’s belly “Blessed is the fruit of your womb.”
What kind of fruit came out of Mary’s belly” was it a peach? Orange? Cherry? Oh no. it was a human baby…Jesus.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Some member of this forum seem Upset because I said, “Adam and Eve had sex with an animal. That’s why we die. We are infected with animal seed.”

If you said this and meant it.. all of Gods church should be upset.

In adam all die. Not because he had sex with an animal. But because God made him the head of us all.. why?

So as in adam all die. so also in Christ shall all be made alive.. why? he becomes our new adam,,

In adam we are dead, in Chrst we are alive.

I hope you do not go on preaching things like beastiality. and thats why we are all dead.. this is pure out there heresy..

 

[doulos]

Have you considered this verse?
Exo 34:7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

Where in Scripture does it say Adam and Eve had sex with an animal? Do you adhere to the serpent seed doctrine?

 

[Blain]

Some member of this forum seem Upset because I said, “Adam and Eve had sex with an animal. That’s why we die. We are infected with animal seed.”

Let me explain it a different way;
Those of us who have children. If one of our children did something we told them not to do, and we punished them, would we also punish our grand children for what our child did? And to go further, would we punish our grand children’s children, and on and on for thousands of years…no we would not.
We would not punish anyone other than the first child who did wrong. We are human…we have compassion.
So tell me, what makes you think God would do that? Do we have more Compassion than God? No.
If God had no compassion, and wanted us to die, why did he send his son to die for us? We did not do Adams sin. We are victims of what Adam and Eve did. Adam and Eve died at a judgment from God, not from what they did. So why do we die? Adam, and Eve had to do something they passed off to us.

God called Satan a murderer. Who did he murder? Not Adam and Eve. Who? There was no other humans there. He had to be a murderer because God called him one, and God does not lie. Satan murdered our race that was unborn. We are not dieing from a judgment from God. God is not punishing use.
The first child in Genesis is Seth…Cain and Able are not in that list. So who was their father?
The Bible speaks over, and over about trees, and seeds. Each time it is referring to humans. Adam and Eave could not eat the fruit of one tree, Elizabeth said when Jesus was in Mary’s belly “Blessed is the fruit of your womb.”
What kind of fruit came out of Mary’s belly” was it a peach? Orange? Cherry? Oh no. it was a human baby…Jesus.

........... well you have some very unique theories... Idk what to say to this. ?_?

 

[Drett]

Some member of this forum seem Upset because I said, “Adam and Eve had sex with an animal. That’s why we die. We are infected with animal seed.”

I am wondering where this is stated in the bible.

 

[JGPS]

Some member of this forum seem Upset because I said, “Adam and Eve had sex with an animal. That’s why we die. We are infected with animal seed.”

I'm quite amused, though not upset. It's one of the more entertaining doctrines Christianity has produced. It doesn't seem that harmful, so I'm not very upset by it.

Let me explain it a different way;
Those of us who have children. If one of our children did something we told them not to do, and we punished them, would we also punish our grand children for what our child did? And to go further, would we punish our grand children’s children, and on and on for thousands of years…no we would not.
We would not punish anyone other than the first child who did wrong. We are human…we have compassion.
So tell me, what makes you think God would do that? Do we have more Compassion than God? No.

Did you ever notice that your children need discipline? And even though you discipline them grandchildren need discipline. And so do great grand children and so on? We all make our own sins, we all die for our own sins. We don't need a complicated doctrine of adamic damnation to deserve judgment. Though insofar as you're saying such systems are a load of wash I agree with you.

If God had no compassion, and wanted us to die, why did he send his son to die for us? We did not do Adams sin. We are victims of what Adam and Eve did. Adam and Eve died at a judgment from God, not from what they did. So why do we die? Adam, and Eve had to do something they passed off to us.

A system of doctrine that relies on personal sin for damnation makes this paragraph irrelevant, does it not?

God called Satan a murderer. Who did he murder? Not Adam and Eve. Who? There was no other humans there. He had to be a murderer because God called him one, and God does not lie. Satan murdered our race that was unborn. We are not dieing from a judgment from God. God is not punishing use.

He doesn't call him that in Genesis. He has loads of time to murder people between Genesis and Psalms or wherever you're getting 'murderer from'.

The first child in Genesis is Seth…Cain and Able are not in that list. So who was their father?

Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Gen 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

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Really? Need I explain how obviously wrong this is?

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The Bible speaks over, and over about trees, and seeds. Each time it is referring to humans. Adam and Eave could not eat the fruit of one tree, Elizabeth said when Jesus was in Mary’s belly “Blessed is the fruit of your womb.”
What kind of fruit came out of Mary’s belly” was it a peach? Orange? Cherry? Oh no. it was a human baby…Jesus.

Spermatozoa literally means 'seeds of life'. A guys stuff always was called a seed, even in English, as where his offspring his fruit... That's a long reach you have.

 

[JGPS]

Have you considered this verse?
Exo 34:7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation.

Where in Scripture does it say Adam and Eve had sex with an animal? Do you adhere to the serpent seed doctrine?

FYI:
He does in fact adhere to that doctrine.

 

[nonicknametouse]

Where did you get this info from about Adam. Oh, never mind I know. Where does it say that in the bible.

 

[Maynard]

Adam and Eve had sex with an animal. That’s why we die.

"...just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their licentiousness, and because of them the way of truth will be reviled. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words; from of old their condemnation has not been idle, and their destruction has not been asleep."
2 Peter 2:1-3

 

[doulos]

FYI:
He does in fact adhere to that doctrine.

Then maybe he should read;
Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
That view is shattered by that one verse.

 

[carey]

I haven't read the other thread about Adam and Eve having sex with an animal, but if your referring to the serpent, that is serpent seed, that is a false teaching, please beware of it, I believe God called Satan a murderer because when Adam caused the fall of man our spiritual nature was murdered, hence why we must be born again, our spiritual man is dead to the things of God, until we receive Jesus as our saviour

 

[JGPS]

Then maybe he should read;
Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
That view is shattered by that one verse.

Yes, I also quoted that very scripture in my post to him

It is quite shattering, I agree

 

[crossnote]

I;ve heard of alternate universes but I think this is an alternate thread

 

[zone]

Some member of this forum seem Upset because I said, “Adam and Eve had sex with an animal. That’s why we die. We are infected with animal seed.”

WHAT?

what?
what?
what?
what?

oh....wow

 

[Wall]

Oh...i thought you were talkin bout me

 

[tdrew777]

God never set up life to be fair. He set it up to be more than fair. No one enters the world with the score even.

 

[wwjd_kilden]

Domenic: Do you really, truly believe all these things you post about? Or do you post them for the sake of debate?
No place in the bible suggests what you are suggesting here.

 

[tdrew777]

Domenic: Do you really, truly believe all these things you post about? Or do you post them for the sake of debate?
No place in the bible suggests what you are suggesting here.

No biblical debate is possible with this kind of stuff.

 

[Domenic]

Domenic: Do you really, truly believe all these things you post about? Or do you post them for the sake of debate?
No place in the bible suggests what you are suggesting here.

To some, they see no suggestion in the Bible to what I say. Not strange, many claim things, such as going to heaven, or a hell of fire, that I do not see the Bible supporting. Someone here is wrong. Perhaps it's me?
In the days of Noah, all the people of that time said Noah was a nut case. If you guys are right, we all go to heaven because God loves everybody. If I am right, some of you are in deep trouble. I wish you were right. But that is not what I believe. One of us is blind. I really pray it is me, and not you.

 

[tdrew777]

If you guys are right, we all go to heaven because God loves everybody. If I am right, some of you are in deep trouble.

Domenic, you are bordering on being incoherent. I give this one example. No one who has commented on this thread, to my knowledge has ever espoused the heresy of universalism - that all will be saved. If you were to start a thread about "we all go to heaven because God loves everyone", you would likely get a lot of negative feedback (just as you did for the ideas on this thread). It is not what "we guys" believe.

I'm out.