Do you observe the Sabbath?

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ResidentAlien

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Why did Jesus rest on Sabbath in the Grave after salvation was paid for?
If nothing else you have persistence, even if what you're saying is mostly out of ignorance.
 
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As a child, some weeks i didn't want to keep the sabbath. My selfish flesh wanted it's way.
But as I've come to know my saviour and Lord, I've come to look forward to the Sabbath.

When you love someone it is a joy to spend time with them.

Love is the centre of the law, and i thank God for the gift of the Sabbath.

I like to spend time in nature and the scriptures on the sabbath. And fellowship with other worshipers.
Same here
 

cv5

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the Lord and the Apostles and the people He said this to were all jews , born under the Law.

gentiles never had the Law and were under it.

no Sabbath required for salvation through faith in Christ.
The fact is.....we, the redeemed, have already entered our eternal Sabbath rest. No need for a specific day any longer.
 
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The sabbath is simply a day off, nothing more. God rested on the seventh day; He took the day off. The Hebrews were slaves in Egypt and had no concept of a day without work, so God issued a commandment. Rigorously observing the sabbath by creating certain rules, e.g., one can only walk a certain distance, otherwise it's "work", makes no sense. That is why Jesus (and David) "violated" the sabbath when they thought it appropriate; there was a higher need than simply resting.

People who rigorously observe the sabbath are putting themselves back under the Mosaic law, which is antithetical to the freedom in Christ.
 

TMS

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He wasn't resting or in the grave.
Please explain??
The bible tells me that Jesus died Friday afternoon at 3pm and rose early Sunday morning.

Think about the manna from Heaven... every day the manna was given except the sabbath and on Friday they collected enough for Sabbath and it did not decay or stink.

Exo 16:20 Notwithstanding they hearkened not unto Moses; but some of them left of it until the morning, and it bred worms, and stank: and Moses was wroth with them.
Exo 16: 24 And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein. 25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.

JESUS is the bread of life. He is the living word, and He did not decay on the sabbath.
The resurrection happened after the Sabbath was over.
 

TMS

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People who rigorously observe the sabbath are putting themselves back under the Mosaic law, which is antithetical to the freedom in Christ
Jesus came to free us from sin....
Not partly
Completly.
He paid the price.
But He also wants to transform us and create a new heart within us.

Being a slave to sin is what Jesus wants to free us from.

We can't do it ourself and it requires faith in Jesus.
But Jesus does not want to pay for our sins so we can keep sinning..

Rom 5:20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

Freedom in Christ does not mean free to sin. It means free from sin. Jesus gives us the power to overcome.

1Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

2Pe 2:19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
 

Cameron143

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Please explain??
The bible tells me that Jesus died Friday afternoon at 3pm and rose early Sunday morning.

Think about the manna from Heaven... every day the manna was given except the sabbath and on Friday they collected enough for Sabbath and it did not decay or stink.

Exo 16:20 Notwithstanding they hearkened not unto Moses; but some of them left of it until the morning, and it bred worms, and stank: and Moses was wroth with them.
Exo 16: 24 And they laid it up till the morning, as Moses bade: and it did not stink, neither was there any worm therein. 25 And Moses said, Eat that to day; for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.

JESUS is the bread of life. He is the living word, and He did not decay on the sabbath.
The resurrection happened after the Sabbath was over.
His body was in the grave. He was in Paradise according to what He told the one thief on the cross.
 

TMS

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His body was in the grave. He was in Paradise according to what He told the one thief on the cross.
This doesn't line up...

Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, to day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee to day, shalt thou be with me in paradise.

It is a known fact that the commer , , , was added. And Jesus could not have been talking about going to heaven that day.

Luk 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

These verses prove that Jesus did not go to heaven until after He talked with Mary on sunday morning.
 

mailmandan

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Did you know that the Seventh Day Adventist will judge us on this and tell us that worshipping God on a day other than Saturday Day is actually worshipping the devil and taking the Mark of the Beast?
I almost fell out of my chair in absolute shock when I first discovered that SDA's teach that near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday. :eek:

https://nonsda.org/study8.shtml
 

Cameron143

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This doesn't line up...

Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, to day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

Luk 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee to day, shalt thou be with me in paradise.

It is a known fact that the commer , , , was added. And Jesus could not have been talking about going to heaven that day.

Luk 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:

Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

These verses prove that Jesus did not go to heaven until after He talked with Mary on sunday morning.
I'm telling you what Jesus said. You can do with that as you will.
 

Cameron143

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Would you say that was rest?
Jesus rested from His work of salvation when He returned to heaven. That's why He sat down at the right hand of the Father. His sitting symbolized a place of rest. His work was accomplished.
Rest for us is found in Him. This is the offer He extends to us in Matthew 11:28-30.
For the thief on the cross it was certainly rest. For the first time in his life he knew peace with God. It is a wonderful picture and reminder to us of the glorious rest that is found in the Lord Jesus Christ. A rest not only from the burden of sin, but an ongoing rest in life as we continually lay our cares on Him.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I almost fell out of my chair in absolute shock when I first discovered that SDA's teach that near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday. :eek:

https://nonsda.org/study8.shtml
That's a good page by Brother Anderson.
He did a lot of work on that website and I can tell that he cares about the SDA folks. I do too and spent a lot of time with a family and some members in conversations. The ones I know are top notch on family values and healthy lifestyles. We have that in common.
I do agree with Brother Anderson's Biblical teaching about this. The funny thing is that there's another Brother Anderson, a Baptist, who preached on this subject twice. I will post that for you if you want to listen when you get a chance Mailman Dan.

SDA Sermon from 2013

SDA, Their Bible and Ellen White
 

MessengerofTruth

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Jesus rested from His work of salvation when He returned to heaven. That's why He sat down at the right hand of the Father. His sitting symbolized a place of rest. His work was accomplished.
Rest for us is found in Him. This is the offer He extends to us in Matthew 11:28-30.
For the thief on the cross it was certainly rest. For the first time in his life he knew peace with God. It is a wonderful picture and reminder to us of the glorious rest that is found in the Lord Jesus Christ. A rest not only from the burden of sin, but an ongoing rest in life as we continually lay our cares on Him.
I completely agree with what you have stated.
I also believe that the Sabbath was made for man (the human body) and not man for the Sabbath. I also believe that our Remembering to keep the Sabbath set apart from other days speaks of our obedience to the Creator that sent His Son to die for our sins as opposed to following manmade traditions and commands of men. This is my testimony that I have learned in the LORD.
 

TMS

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I almost fell out of my chair in absolute shock when I first discovered that SDA's teach that near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday. :eek:

https://nonsda.org/study8.shtml
Just keep the idea in your mind.....
If it doesn't happen then they are not Gods people. But if it does happen they are being lead by God.

So we will see if laws are promoted to worship and rest on Sunday. ??
 

Cameron143

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Just keep the idea in your mind.....
If it doesn't happen then they are not Gods people. But if it does happen they are being lead by God.

So we will see if laws are promoted to worship and rest on Sunday. ??
If I thought you would hear my arguments I would be glad to share with you on this topic. I believe you are convinced what you believe is correct and nothing I might say would be considered. That's why I haven't chosen to engage on more than a cursory level.
 

TMS

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For the thief on the cross it was certainly rest.
We can have rest every day of the week. Rest in Jesus comes when we accept by faith the promises He made.
We are not talking about rest that we can all have anytime...
The Sabbath was a commandment that we were told to remember. A day to rest from our labour and keep holy.

There is no bible verse to say Jesus was in heaven when He died. That is presumption.
 

TMS

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I also believe that our Remembering to keep the Sabbath set apart from other days speaks of our obedience to the Creator that sent His Son to die for our sins as opposed to following manmade traditions and commands of men. This is my testimony that I have learned in the LORD.
Exactly. Remembering the Sabbath rather then man made traditions and commands of men.

God commanded the 7th day be kept holy.
Man said lets keep sunday instead.
Choose who we will serve God or man. ? This is the question. Satan will make it sound like it doesn't matter but remember the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
God said not to eat of that one tree and it did matter which tree they ate.

God said keep one day holy and it does matter which day we keep holy.