Do you think transgenders go to heaven?

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LibrarianLeo

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the question is not a Biblpical one. the false narrtive of transgender will not make in Heaven . There is no such thing as transgender. it's child abuse
Not according to the experts.
Transgender is an umbrella term for persons whose gender identity, gender expression or behavior does not conform to that typically associated with the sex to which they were assigned at birth.

And many of these experts are compassionate Christians.
 

CS1

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Not according to the experts.
Transgender is an umbrella term for persons whose gender identity, gender expression or behavior does not conform to that typically associated with the sex to which they were assigned at birth.

When experts go against the plan of God they are just that “Ex -spurts “of nothing. When one is not redirected from belief in a false narrative that is abuse. This line of thinking has been interjected to the person(s) who is suffering from a cognitive barrier. Those who are not willing to accept the reality of their gender as it really is has a serious issue. What is even more disturbing are the fake, lying, and deceptive medical and education professionals who teaches this as a normal thought or behavioral action. God will hold those accountable and yes those Pastor too.
 

LibrarianLeo

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When experts go against the plan of God they are just that “Ex -spurts “of nothing. When one is not redirected from belief in a false narrative that is abuse. This line of thinking has been interjected to the person(s) who is suffering from a cognitive barrier. Those who are not willing to accept the reality of their gender as it really is has a serious issue. What is even more disturbing are the fake, lying, and deceptive medical and education professionals who teaches this as a normal thought or behavioral action. God will hold those accountable and yes those Pastor too.
It seems that God will hold somebody accountable.

[h=3]Leviticus 19:16-18 [/h]You shall not go around as a slanderer among your people, and you shall not stand up against the life of your neighbor: I am the Lord. “You shall not hate your brother in your heart, but you shall reason frankly with your neighbor, lest you incur sin because of him. You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.

[h=3]What Does the Bible Say About Our Weirdo Neighbors?[/h]


They do not consider these symptoms to be "normal" and they do have "Normal" standards to use for classifying.
What they do is IDENTIFY traits and problems people have adjusting to our imperfect situation, both genetically
and socially. God creates these people. Not just the "normal" people you imagine are Gods perfection.

Sex chromosome disorders

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Sex chromosome disorders belong to a group of genetic conditions that are caused or affected by the loss, damage or addition of sex chromosomes (gonosomes).
In humans this may refer to:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_chromosome_disorders




 
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CS1

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It seems that God will hold somebody accountable.

Leviticus 19:16-18

You shall not go around as a slanderer among your people, and you shall not stand up against the life of your neighbor: I am the Lord. “You shall not hate your brother in your heart, but you shall reason frankly with your neighbor, lest you incur sin because of him. You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.

What Does the Bible Say About Our Weirdo Neighbors?




They do not consider these symptoms to be "normal" and they do have "Normal" standards to use for classifying.
What they do is IDENTIFY traits and problems people have adjusting to our imperfect situation, both genetically
and socially. God creates these people. Not just the "normal" people you imagine are Gods perfection.

Sex chromosome disorders

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Sex chromosome disorders belong to a group of genetic conditions that are caused or affected by the loss, damage or addition of sex chromosomes (gonosomes).
In humans this may refer to:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_chromosome_disorders




LOL good try but it will not work. It is not in context to the idea of transgender. It is not slanderous to tell the truth. IT is the greatest kind of Love to show another by telling them the truth instead of teaching them a lie. In addition, weirdo neighbors? I was expecting you to provide some scriptural reference on the topic of weirdo? .

Sex chromosome disorders”

Notices you used the descriptive word “disorder =“mean’s 1. Sickness, 2.Condition 3. Illness and 4. chaos. So as you have stated this is a Disorder, why would one support a disorder by teaching it is normal to think in away one is not? The Bible tells us in the Last Days Take Heed that No man deceives you. This is the worrst Kind of " stand up against the life of your neighbor:"

what a bunch of hypocrties ! n o full well it is wqrong and yet support this lie . I stand by what I have said .
 

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Read the word and choose if it is right or wrong. Judge if it is right or wrong, sinful or not according to the standard given.
Let God do the judging when it comes to who will be saved.
 

CS1

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Read the word and choose if it is right or wrong. Judge if it is right or wrong, sinful or not according to the standard given.
Let God do the judging when it comes to who will be saved.
amen

but it is not judgement to say a false narrtive or lie will not make it to heaven . many many well intented people only know one verse in the bible after God is love. it is DO NOT JUDGE. why? because anytime you tell the truth they want to shut you up just as they tried to do to the Lord Jesus Christ. So they can continue to live in sin while thinking God accepts thier sin. That is a False gospel and I cannot nor will I preach that ever. I love people to much. and fear God who will hold me accountble.
 
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No other sins are excluded. And I can't find any "tyranny" anywhere in their efforts.
That only leaves "heresy," which is all in your mind.

[FONT=&quot]Romans 14:14[/FONT][FONT=&quot]I know and am convinced in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself; but to him who thinks anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean.[/FONT]
The grandfather of the gay movement, Harry Hay, said he patterned it after the Communist Revolution. The gay rights movement is a tyrranical movement not a democratic one.
 
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No!

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." (1Co 6.9,10).
 
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No!

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." (1Co 6.9,10).
And such were some of you...
 

Ahwatukee

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And such were some of you...
The key word here being "And such 'were' some of you." The problem is those who are claiming to be in Christ who are not willing to give up same-sex relations, but instead are justifying and embracing this sin because they don't want to stop. In other words Paul is saying to the Corinthians and every believer, if you willfully continue in those acts of the sinful nature mentioned, you will not inherit the kingdom of God. It can't be "And such were some of you" if you're still willfully practicing those things.
 
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The key word here being "And such 'were' some of you." The problem is those who are claiming to be in Christ who are not willing to give up same-sex relations, but instead are justifying and embracing this sin because they don't want to stop. In other words Paul is saying to the Corinthians and every believer, if you willfully continue in those acts of the sinful nature mentioned, you will not inherit the kingdom of God. It can't be "And such were some of you" if you're still willfully practicing those things.
I was replying to the post where the poster stated transgendered ppl can’t be saved. Then he quoted two verses saying what can’t inherit the kingdom of heaven. Then Paul stated such were some of you. Those who can not inherit the kingdom of heaven in those two verses were some of those who have been sanctified and justified.

No one is beyond God’s reach. No one.
 

Ahwatukee

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I was replying to the post where the poster stated transgendered ppl can’t be saved. Then he quoted two verses saying what can’t inherit the kingdom of heaven. Then Paul stated such were some of you. Those who can not inherit the kingdom of heaven in those two verses were some of those who have been sanctified and justified.

No one is beyond God’s reach. No one.
You can't be sanctified if you are still willfully practicing those things. And that because it would mean that there was no repentance. At some point, a person who is performing those acts must repent of them. A person cannot willfully continue in those acts and inherit the kingdom of God is what Paul is saying.

So, yes a transgender or anyone who is sexually immoral can be forgiven and have the hope of eternal life, but there must be repentance. Therefore, if a person won't give those practices up, but still considers himself to be in Christ, he deceives himself. Jesus did not shed his blood for us so that we could just continue on living that life style.
 

LibrarianLeo

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LOL good try but it will not work. It is not in context to the idea of transgender. It is not slanderous to tell the truth. IT is the greatest kind of Love to show another by telling them the truth instead of teaching them a lie. In addition, weirdo neighbors? I was expecting you to provide some scriptural reference on the topic of weirdo? .

Sex chromosome disorders”

Notices you used the descriptive word “disorder =“mean’s 1. Sickness, 2.Condition 3. Illness and 4. chaos. So as you have stated this is a Disorder, why would one support a disorder by teaching it is normal to think in away one is not? The Bible tells us in the Last Days Take Heed that No man deceives you. This is the worrst Kind of " stand up against the life of your neighbor:"

what a bunch of hypocrties ! n o full well it is wqrong and yet support this lie . I stand by what I have said .
Where is this scripture on teaching only what is normal and only supporting normal people?
Jesus was crucified for not being normal. Which side of the cross conflict are you looking from?
Many of my neighbors are gay or women only households or men only households, or gay couples.

What Does the Bible Say About Loving Each One of your Neighbors?
 
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LibrarianLeo

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The grandfather of the gay movement, Harry Hay, said he patterned it after the Communist Revolution. The gay rights movement is a tyrranical movement not a democratic one.
I can't find any "tyranny" anywhere in their efforts. You will need to produce something
to show current communist overthrow of Capitalism intentions.
 

LibrarianLeo

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You can't be sanctified if you are still willfully practicing those things. And that because it would mean that there was no repentance. At some point, a person who is performing those acts must repent of them. A person cannot willfully continue in those acts and inherit the kingdom of God is what Paul is saying.

So, yes a transgender or anyone who is sexually immoral can be forgiven and have the hope of eternal life, but there must be repentance. Therefore, if a person won't give those practices up, but still considers himself to be in Christ, he deceives himself. Jesus did not shed his blood for us so that we could just continue on living that life style.
Scripture only refers to people who are harming others through promiscuity and sex outside of marriage.
It does not refer to people who feel they are trapped in the wrong gender body as sinners.
 

LibrarianLeo

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The key word here being "And such 'were' some of you." The problem is those who are claiming to be in Christ who are not willing to give up same-sex relations, but instead are justifying and embracing this sin because they don't want to stop. In other words Paul is saying to the Corinthians and every believer, if you willfully continue in those acts of the sinful nature mentioned, you will not inherit the kingdom of God. It can't be "And such were some of you" if you're still willfully practicing those things.
I have a close relationship with my dad, my brother, and a close friend. I will continue to practice them.
 

LibrarianLeo

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No!

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God." (1Co 6.9,10).
I knew some effeminate kids in cub scouts so I don't agree with your assessment.
 

LibrarianLeo

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When experts go against the plan of God they are just that “Ex -spurts “of nothing.
Speak to build up your neighbors.

[h=3]Matthew 7:12[/h]“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.


[h=3]Romans 15:2[/h]Let each of us please his neighbor for his good, to build him up.


[h=3]Romans 13:9[/h]For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
 
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Speak to build up your neighbors.

Matthew 7:12

“So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets.


Romans 15:2

Let each of us please his neighbor for his good, to build him up.


Romans 13:9

For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”

lol Please if you are a Biblical left leading snowflake I make no apologies
if your understanding that loving your neighbor is to not speak against what the Lord said is sin. Then you need to read more. I love it when those who try so hard to stop language they do not agree with by trying to interject what they think is not loving .
 

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Scripture only refers to people who are harming others through promiscuity and sex outside of marriage.
It does not refer to people who feel they are trapped in the wrong gender body as sinners.

deception is from sin . Jesus warned about it read Matt 24 .