does anyone notice?

[Abiding]

should i put it in an easy to understand list or create a colorful chart ?

when Jesus was with his disciples and flock
they constantly asked for signs.....all the time

Jesus said there would be signs and all through out the bible since way back to atleast isaiah

im waiting for the sun to go black....i think that may be a full eclipse
the NASA website says the next total lunar eclipse is Apr 15 2014*

when a fig tree branch ripens, and becomes tender and fruitful.....the season for that is spring
Apr. 15 happens to be Spring

the revelation signs that were fortold seem to be a sensitive subject wit the majority of the people

but there are strange things going on that are written in the bible
most people seem *to be shuting there eyes tight like a bratty child
they're not blind they could see and realize at least a high possibily that it really seems that what revelation says is now happening....maybe im wrong but im still keeping watch
im not a paranoid person......i am aware when somthing strange IS going on
why do people just willingly choose to be blind , deaf , and obediant to idols and the pathetic people that claim authirity
btw they have no right to real authority

Prophetic language. Same terms used in Jeremiah 4 and Zechazriah 14 that was fulfilled in 586BC
Its not literal. Its judgment symbolism. Your looking at Matthew i presume which was fulfilled in 70AD.

Even if you want to give Matthew 24 a rerun it still is prophetic judgement speak and is not
literally refering to a cosmological event.

The jews listenning to Jesus would have know this. Knowing of fulfilled prophecies in their nations past.
And know it meant that God was going to overthrow a single nation at a specific time.

So looking for a cosmic fulfillment would not be right in the area of prophetic language used
in both the OT and NT.

But the Lord is coming back soon, Amen

 

[cfultz3]

should i put it in an easy to understand list or create a colorful chart ?

when Jesus was with his disciples and flock
they constantly asked for signs.....all the time

Jesus said there would be signs and all through out the bible since way back to atleast isaiah

im waiting for the sun to go black....i think that may be a full eclipse
the NASA website says the next total lunar eclipse is Apr 15 2014*

when a fig tree branch ripens, and becomes tender and fruitful.....the season for that is spring
Apr. 15 happens to be Spring

the revelation signs that were fortold seem to be a sensitive subject wit the majority of the people

but there are strange things going on that are written in the bible
most people seem *to be shuting there eyes tight like a bratty child
they're not blind they could see and realize at least a high possibily that it really seems that what revelation says is now happening....maybe im wrong but im still keeping watch
im not a paranoid person......i am aware when somthing strange IS going on
why do people just willingly choose to be blind , deaf , and obediant to idols and the pathetic people that claim authirity
btw they have no right to real authority

Do you also know that those 6 lunar and solar eclipses which are to occur in 2014 and 2015 (according to Nasa) will all fall on Jewish Holy Days. And that it will not occur like that again for another 1000 years? Also that 2015 is a new Sabbatical year?

 

[Ariel82]

i was not talking about the one if you pay attention i clearly typed APRIL so YES i was speaking of the one IN APRIL*

and the SUN is not darken in APRIL because that is a LUNAR eclipse which is when the Earth's shadow falls upon the MOON and darkens the MOON and during total eclipse of the MOON (lunar being another term for the MOON) it appears RED before darkening and slowly relighting as the MOON moves out of the Earth's shadow or more specifically the rotation of the Earth moves makes our perception of the moon and the Earth's shadow change.

that would be beam(false understanding) number one..... there are more but I'm not sure you are actually interested.

 

[Deadtosin]

Aren't you the same guy that claimed a mysterious bible verse was revealed to you one day in a bible like no other?
Yet the particular verse is not in the Holy Bible and only YOU saw it? Yeah, that was you.

So pardon me if I feel you speak falsely of the bible. You tend to have a habit of that.

I have had many experiences where God has led me. Yes, on the evening of operation "shock and awe" God led me to a bible at a friends house. I did not notice which version it was KJV, NIV etc. What I do know is the other bibles I have found do not word it the exact way I had read it that evening. It isn't an unknown verse it was simply worded differently like many of the different versions today. Elizabeth, I am not here to dispute with you. Many "christians" come on here to dispute constantly, your views regarding the bible not being taken literally and revelations being about current apostlistic events is not a new one, it is documented in many books and there are many other books that dispute that. I know you like to read so I don't need to go over all of it with you. I simply refuse to be brought into the arguements again. They are to no avail.

 

[Deadtosin]

DeadToSin, how on earth do you 'sew' a seed? Wouldn't it fall apart? And what would be it's purpose?

sorry typo error. "sow"

Mark 4:31 It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth:

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The bible is filled with symbolism which means it is not meant to be taken literally. The sun does turn dark quite often. There is a such thing as a blood moon. It doesn't mean the sun itself turns black, and the moom does not literally become blood.

Also people tend to overlook that at the beginning of Revelation it says these things will happen SOON for THE TIME IS NEAR. How "soon" has been translated to 2000+ years later I do not know. There is also the whole thing about how Paul stated the evil lawlessness had already begun back in that time.... yet again... all biblical prophecies are applied to current events while neglecting what has already happened.

I would agree with you. However. the problem is alot of things which was said has never happened yet.. If it has not happened yet, we have two options.

1. Symbolize it. to make it have already happened, but not literally
2. Agree it is yet a future reference.

The problem I have, Is all prophesy spoken of in the OT concerning christ and other things, literally were fulfilled. So why would God want to change, and all of a sudden start figuratively fulfilling things? This does nothing to support the reason God does prophesy, to prove who he is. Only he can say "this" will happen 500- years from now. and 500 years later it happens.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

As for the OP.

The moon going in front of the Sun in the spring is not a sign.

A sign would be the sun going dark with no scientific explanation. (An act of God)

 

[Ariel82]

I simply refuse to be brought into the arguements again. They are to no avail.

Irony: if you don't post, you can't be brought into the argument....but since you have chosen too...

Do you think Jesus is coming in the next decade?

or was your posts just a pep talk?

what "seeds" are you encouraging her to sow?

[h=3]Matthew 13:24-26[/h]
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; [SUP]25 [/SUP]but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. [SUP]26 [/SUP]But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared.

 

[Deadtosin]

"Irony: if you don't post, you can't be brought into the argument" - Ariel82

when did posting on a christian website obligate me to defend myself?

A better question.

Why do so many people here take pleasure in attempting to tear others apart? Yourfriend4life is simply reading scripture and trying to be the "watchmen" Jesus asks her to be. If it's a pep talk to keep her chin up she needs then I am honored to give her what little comfort I can. When God is our focus His light guides our lives and nobody on the planet has the authority to tell me, her or anybody else that God isn't speaking directly to us. After all its a personal relationship with Jesus Christ that makes us christian to begin with isn't it?. What personal relationship doesn't have interaction on both sides?

However if our own understanding is our main focus we become blinded by our own egotistical pride.

There is nowhere on CC to post that will not immediately bring wolves from the shadows. I and many others are acutely aware of this.

Why do so many "christians" have such a negative effect on other christians?

well the answer is in the bible. You will know them by their fruits. (the fruits of the spirit) Gods spirit is loving, patient, kind and gentle, full of wisdom and peace. If your words don't reflect His spirit than we know it's not from Him.

 

[jimmydiggs]

maybe a colorful chart will help?

I am going to need a colorful chart.

 

[Abiding]

Please read:

ISAIAH 13:9-11 - "See, the day of the Lord is coming - a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger - to make the land desolate and destroy the sinners within it. The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light. The rising sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light. I will punish the world for its evil." [NIV]

that was about the destruction of babylon

EZEKIEL 30:18; 32:7-8 "At Tehaphnehes also the day shall be darkened, when I shall break there the yokes of Egypt: and the pomp of her strength shall cease in her: as for her, a cloud shall cover her, and her daughters shall go into captivity." And when I shall put thee [Pharaoh] out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light. All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over thee, and set darkness upon thy land, saith the Lord God."

This is egypt in 572bc


AMOS 8:9 "in that day, declares the Sovereign Lord, I will make the sun go down at noon and darken the earth in broad daylight" [NIV]

Syrians sacking Israel 721bc

Many more texts that show this prophetic language is NOT talking about a cosmic fulfillment.


It probably would be good to start a thread showing the meanings of prophetic biblical
phrases

 

[Elizabeth619]

"Irony: if you don't post, you can't be brought into the argument" - Ariel82

when did posting on a christian website obligate me to defend myself?

A better question.

Why do so many people here take pleasure in attempting to tear others apart? Yourfriend4life is simply reading scripture and trying to be the "watchmen" Jesus asks her to be. If it's a pep talk to keep her chin up she needs then I am honored to give her what little comfort I can. When God is our focus His light guides our lives and nobody on the planet has the authority to tell me, her or anybody else that God isn't speaking directly to us. After all its a personal relationship with Jesus Christ that makes us christian to begin with isn't it?. What personal relationship doesn't have interaction on both sides?

However if our own understanding is our main focus we become blinded by our own egotistical pride.

There is nowhere on CC to post that will not immediately bring wolves from the shadows. I and many others are acutely aware of this.

Why do so many "christians" have such a negative effect on other christians?

well the answer is in the bible. You will know them by their fruits. (the fruits of the spirit) Gods spirit is loving, patient, kind and gentle, full of wisdom and peace. If your words don't reflect His spirit than we know it's not from Him.

Why do you think Christians take pleasure in ripping others apart? Just because someone may correct someone doesn't mean they are trying to be cruel. Doesn't the bible say it is to be used for correction?
If someone is in error then shouldn't we approach them and show them why they are wrong or should we continue to let them live in error?

Also, I don't believe we are told to stand there looking to the sky for signs. As a matter of fact right after Jesus was ascended in to Heaven angels approached the apostles and asked why were they standing there looking in to the sky. The spostles had a job to do. Their job was the spread the gospel. Not wait for cosmic occurances.

While some choose to sit and wait for signs I prefer to study, learn and help others come to Christ. If someone is in error I will tell them. I will show them scripture as to how they are wrong. It is then up to them to change their ways. That isn't ripping people apart. That isn't cruel.

 

[Deadtosin]

Please read:

ISAIAH 13:9-11 - "See, the day of the Lord is coming - a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger - to make the land desolate and destroy the sinners within it. The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light. The rising sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light. I will punish the world for its evil." [NIV]

that was about the destruction of babylon

EZEKIEL 30:18; 32:7-8 "At Tehaphnehes also the day shall be darkened, when I shall break there the yokes of Egypt: and the pomp of her strength shall cease in her: as for her, a cloud shall cover her, and her daughters shall go into captivity." And when I shall put thee [Pharaoh] out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light. All the bright lights of heaven will I make dark over thee, and set darkness upon thy land, saith the Lord God."

This is egypt in 572bc


AMOS 8:9 "in that day, declares the Sovereign Lord, I will make the sun go down at noon and darken the earth in broad daylight" [NIV]

Syrians sacking Israel 721bc

Many more texts that show this prophetic language is NOT talking about a cosmic fulfillment.


It probably would be good to start a thread showing the meanings of prophetic biblical
phrases

one major problem Abiding

Matthew 24:14

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in ALL the world for a witness unto ALL nations; and THEN SHALL THE END COME.

-15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand



you see? we've only reached the technology to spread the gospel to the entire world within the last hundred or so years. So these events could not have happened yet. As we speak the gospel is still being spread to new places. What do you do with that?

add that with the famines, pestilences, rumors of wars and wars, increase in earthquakes in diverse places, a great increase in knowledge (again look at the last hundred years, we were riding horses people), people traveling too and fro (literally traveling fast over long distances) the great falling away morally, hearts waxing cold. The Jews returning to Israel was scoffed at as recently as the late 1800's (scholars said it was impossible as there hadn't been any Jews in Israel for over 1800 years. )yet the bible says that this will be a sign to the world. AND IT IS

 

[zone]

thank you i needed that i trying my best to not grow weary......i cant be alone on this. how can people possibly see the similarities? why are most so numb to major events ? its sad but im starting to not know what to do besides pray but what else can i do to help these "children" ?

these children?
what exactly do you want people to do that they are not doing?
huh?

are you ready for your own death?
are you ministering to people who are about to die?

that's the end....for them.
make THIS day count.

 

[Elizabeth619]

one major problem Abiding

Matthew 24:14

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in ALL the world for a witness unto ALL nations; and THEN SHALL THE END COME.

-15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand



you see? we've only reached the technology to spread the gospel to the entire world within the last hundred or so years. So these events could not have happened yet. As we speak the gospel is still being spread to new places. What do you do with that?

add that with the famines, pestilences, rumors of wars and wars, increase in earthquakes in diverse places, a great increase in knowledge (again look at the last hundred years, we were riding horses people), people traveling too and fro (literally traveling fast over long distances) the great falling away morally, hearts waxing cold. The Jews returning to Israel was scoffed at as recently as the late 1800's (scholars said it was impossible as there hadn't been any Jews in Israel for over 1800 years. )yet the bible says that this will be a sign to the world. AND IT IS

So you're saying the gospel has not reached the entire world yet??

Mark 16:15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature
Verse 20 says: And they went out and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them and confirming the word through the accompanying signs. Amen.

Col 4:1-6 Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and of your love for all the saints; because of the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, of which you heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel, which has come to you, as it has also in all the world, and is bringing forth fruit, as it is also among you since the day you heard and knew the grace of God in truth"

Col 1:23 If indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister"

Romans 10:18 "But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed: "Their sound has gone out to all the earth, And their words to the ends of the world"

 

[Abiding]

one major problem Abiding

Matthew 24:14

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in ALL the world for a witness unto ALL nations; and THEN SHALL THE END COME.

-15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand



you see? we've only reached the technology to spread the gospel to the entire world within the last hundred or so years. So these events could not have happened yet. As we speak the gospel is still being spread to new places. What do you do with that?

add that with the famines, pestilences, rumors of wars and wars, increase in earthquakes in diverse places, a great increase in knowledge (again look at the last hundred years, we were riding horses people), people traveling too and fro (literally traveling fast over long distances) the great falling away morally, hearts waxing cold. The Jews returning to Israel was scoffed at as recently as the late 1800's (scholars said it was impossible as there hadn't been any Jews in Israel for over 1800 years. )yet the bible says that this will be a sign to the world. AND IT IS

Do you spose your responding to my post or something? Because your not even close

 

[cfultz3]

Do you also know that those 6 lunar and solar eclipses which are to occur in 2014 and 2015 (according to Nasa) will all fall on Jewish Holy Days. And that it will not occur like that again for another 1000 years? Also that 2015 is a new Sabbatical year?

Friend4life,

Have you looked into this?

 

[Yourfriend4life]

with what authority do you pass judgement with?

 

[Yourfriend4life]

...........last reply meant for ariel82

 

[Yourfriend4life]

to the question earlier i want people to see , hear and feel as best as they can and stop trapping people in the darkness both on purpose and on purpose.i want americans to ban together and fight by preparing , refusing conformity , AND TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER

and please for the love of God stop being soooooo VEIN