does evidence undermine religion?

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noontheist

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Hi

I would love to hear all your thoughts on evolution in particular,
and also the lack of evidence for biblical 'events'
I am here to hear Christian perspectives on these and many other subjects.

thanks
 
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What do you mean? There's a complete lack of evidence for darwinistic evolution and old earth mythology. In fact their old earth mythology theories all contradict each other and much moreso reality.

There is a mountain of physical evidence for people, places, and events in the Bible. A lot of the places still even exist in our time.
 
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There is plenty of physical evidence for evolution and the old earth mythology as you put it....but I don't want to bore you with 150 years of research, if we are to take the bible literally then you must explain in detail how for example the animals leaving the ark found their way to far reaching areas of the world, and why there is no actual physical evidence of a global flood.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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simple..

there is no proof for evolution. And Darwinism has seen its day. and failed,

as for no proof of biblical history? Where do you get your facts? Every aspect of biblical history that has been looked at historically and through digs of ancient lands have been found to be true, up and including the global flood. Which answers your darwinistic theory (gives and explanation of all events concerning the fossil data)
 
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and why there is no actual physical evidence of a global flood.
I would disagree with this as just last year there was a big hoohaa from South African scientist (evolutionist by the way) who told us about a global flood between 4,500 - 5,000 years ago. They found some evidence in the Karoo somewhere...
 

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Hi

I would love to hear all your thoughts on evolution in particular,
and also the lack of evidence for biblical 'events'
I am here to hear Christian perspectives on these and many other subjects.

thanks
Which Biblical events? Jesus' death and Resurrection? There's plenty of proof of that.
 
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The other thing evolutionist can't explain is how did Noah build a load carrying boat with the perfect parameters to carry the weight and survive in waves of up to 30 meters high? This is not what I say but the smart people at universities. You see it took humanity thousands of years to build boats and aircraft while it is in God's word and His creation.
 
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noontheist

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one simple fact for you all, humans have a useless part of their anatomy called the appendix, used in our ancient cousins to digest grass and vegetation, did god then give us this completely useless and sometimes deadly part to make us think we evolved?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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one simple fact for you all, humans have a useless part of their anatomy called the appendix, used in our ancient cousins to digest grass and vegetation, did god then give us this completely useless and sometimes deadly part to make us think we evolved?
with all the DNA and other evidence which would lead ANYONE who really studied it to a creator. All you have is this one organ, which does not prove one way or the other?

Sounds like you do not really want to discuss anything
 
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There is plenty of physical evidence for evolution and the old earth mythology as you put it....but I don't want to bore you with 150 years of research, if we are to take the bible literally then you must explain in detail how for example the animals leaving the ark found their way to far reaching areas of the world, and why there is no actual physical evidence of a global flood.
Lol I all ready know their 150 years of theories and hoaxes that are in fact not proven or are disproven. See that's just even more of a testament to how much a lie old earth mythology is. It's only about 200 years old whereas I have about 4000 years of solid proof from written accounts to the remnants of physical evidences.

Jericho is a good example. Jericho in the written record is known to have existed, had its walls thrown down by God, burnt up by Joshua, and rebuilt later on. The physical proof matches the historical account.

Here is a good documentary for an example, you even have a believer and non-believer in it for perspective:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYrSkikZhxI
[video=youtube;bYrSkikZhxI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYrSkikZhxI[/video]
 
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noontheist

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I really do want to discuss but discussion poses some uncomfortable questions,
I am not hearing any reasonable arguments against evolution that's all.
 
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one simple fact for you all, humans have a useless part of their anatomy called the appendix, used in our ancient cousins to digest grass and vegetation, did god then give us this completely useless and sometimes deadly part to make us think we evolved?
Yes that is overwhelming evidence for evolution. I just might burn all my Bibles tonight because I can feel it in my appendix...
 
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noontheist

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And actually you may be surprised to know that I believe the wonderful universe was created by a god, just not the god that was invented by some ignorant bronze age middle eastern people who new very little about anything.
 
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kaylagrl

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There is plenty of physical evidence for evolution and the old earth mythology as you put it....but I don't want to bore you with 150 years of research, if we are to take the bible literally then you must explain in detail how for example the animals leaving the ark found their way to far reaching areas of the world, and why there is no actual physical evidence of a global flood.


Quote "I am here to hear Christian perspectives on these and many other subjects."


Ya no,I dont think you are.I think you're here to prove you're right.And since that is the case its not worth arguing. You've got your mind made up.
 
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one simple fact for you all, humans have a useless part of their anatomy called the appendix, used in our ancient cousins to digest grass and vegetation, did god then give us this completely useless and sometimes deadly part to make us think we evolved?
Lol actually the appendix is part of the immune system, so that means it's not a vestigial part. That's even more of a testament to how old earth mythology is a pretty much a Victorian era fantasy that can only be supported by pretty obvious lies.
 
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noontheist

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The appendix is not part of the immune system omg
 
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And actually you may be surprised to know that I believe the wonderful universe was created by a god, just not the god that was invented by some ignorant bronze age middle eastern people who new very little about anything.
You might be surprised how cultural evolution is more absurd than Darwinism. Lol there is no Bronze Age. They were making steel all around the ancient world in the so-called bronze age and iron age lol. That means there is no bronze and iron age. There is no cultural evolution. History is more dynamic than you been taught by the old earth mythologists.

Steel in Ancient Greece and Rome
 
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And actually you may be surprised to know that I believe the wonderful universe was created by a god, just not the god that was invented by some ignorant bronze age middle eastern people who new very little about anything.
Who is your god?
 
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kaylagrl

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The appendix is not part of the immune system omg


https://www.minnpost.com/second-opi...lthful-purpose-evolutionary-evidence-suggests


Scientists have uncovered yet more evidence that the appendix...may not be a useless organ after all.Instead, the new evidence strengthens the idea that the appendix may be a storehouse for beneficial microbes that help fight off infections in the gut.

"The research team [which includes Dr. William Parker, a surgeon who studies the immune system at Duke University] may already have the answer. In 2007, Parker and his colleagues suggested that the appendix has an immunological role, acting as a "safe house" for beneficial gut bacteria. These bacteria help train the immune system and can prevent diseases by outcompeting dangerous pathogenic bacteria — but there are times when the dangerous microbes gain the upper hand and overrun the gut. The researchers reasoned that when this happens, the beneficial bacteria could retreat to the safety of the appendix, which remains unaffected. Once the immune system has beaten the infection, the beneficial bacteria emerge from the appendix to quickly recolonize the gut." Another study by Parker found that among people who had developed a Closteridium difficile infection, those without an appendix were four times more likely to have a recurrence of the bacterial infection than those who still had their appendix.



http://informationaboutgod.com/articles/current_issues/appendix.php

Researchers at Duke University Medical Center reported that the appendix is a storehouse for beneficial bacteria that can be used to repopulate the intestinal tract following a bout of severe diarrhea.6 The research was reported in the Journal of Theoretical Biology. The digestive system in humans contains large quantities of beneficial microbes which reside in a biofilm in our intestines consisting of mucus, immune molecules, and the microbes. This biofilm prevents harmful bacteria from invading. When a person suffers from cholera or other intestinal infection (like Montezuma's revenge this writer has endured several times), the appendix repopulates the intestine with a new army of beneficial microbes.

According to Microbiologist Richard Deem, the appendix contains a significant amount of lymphoid tissue, which is the body's ability to recognize foreign antigens in ingested material. These gut-associated lymphoid tissues (GALT) are important in keeping the harmful pathogens from being absorbed in the intestines and causing infection. Much of Deem's research has focused on the immunological functions of the intestine and he has published at least 17 scholarly research papers on these topics. He concluded, These recent studies demonstrate that the human appendix is not a vestigial organ, as originally claimed.

Interestingly, the Duke University researchers remarked that people in more developed nations, with an abundance of clean water, may have a higher incidence of disease in this small body part precisely because it is underused. Less developed nations have an increased incidence of water-borne pathogens leading to infections in the digestive tract, causing self-induced flushing of the system: diarrhea. In these cases, the appendix is useful in repopulating the intestines with beneficial bacteria. Since this is rarely needed in more developed nations, the appendix is underused, possibly leading to an increased susceptibility to infection itself - one of the less fortunate hazards of modern civilized life. So, higher rates of infection in the appendix do not necessarily imply bad design.