Does God chose people?

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Channa

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He, Thanks for all the comments, it really helps me :) But. This isn't a place to argue. Behave yourself like an adult, please.
 

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I dont think bad of anyon e
they wouldne be here if they were not christians



this started when you said works dont count

that is not biblical
 

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so just telling a fellow christian not to speak false doctrines works count a lot
salvation is not from works
but works count

my whole bible talks about from Genesis to revelation aboput how God expects works and they count all the way
 

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salvation is only by Jesus blood and then he tells you to go and sin no more
sin is the transgression of the law

like Gideon
he watches to see who is all in love and obedience
and he chooses them to destroy the beast
 

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know who the beast is?
Babylon
the false religions of the world that teach you are ok as you are and headed to heaven when you are not

its about saving your soul since you are on the wrong track
amnyone who says
"that is salvation by works"
is on the wrong track
 

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#46
salvation is by Jesus blood and he expects you to follow him
this is something you were never told
so now I told you

in an army
the general chooses the obedient men

those who refuse to obey some things are left in the states to do desk jobs
those faithful are taken into battle

when we win the battle, while you stay howm,
and the beast is vanquished, then you can repent and come with us

you would have made a good warrior for truth
but you didnt know the truth

obedience is everything to God

abraham joseph peter paul
everyone
noah was obedient
he was not saved by works

he just did the works cause he loved god.

no works
dead faith
not obeying god
no real faith
 

Channa

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#47
know who the beast is?
Babylon
the false religions of the world that teach you are ok as you are and headed to heaven when you are not

its about saving your soul since you are on the wrong track
amnyone who says
"that is salvation by works"
is on the wrong track
He. In John 11:16 stands that Everyone who beliefs, can be saved. Everyone.
 

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#48
smooth words wide road already saved

NOT

you were vanquished and in the strong mans prison hypnotiaed

but dont worry
we warriors will come and set you free

go read romans
 
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sry, but you are not reading the context, but taking out of the context one of the many applications.
The chapter as a whole continues to describe election and God's sovereignty, not Jews vs Gentiles, or obedience vs disobedience.
The theme of Rom 9 is Paul is refuting arguments he knew the Jews would raise about God rejecting them as His chosen people and that God was just/righteous in rejecting them. Paul goes on in Rom 10 on how these once chosen but lost Jews can still be saved.
 
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By the time many letters were written "the Scripture" was the Old Testament... Pay attention to GOD and also "listen" to Jesus´ teaching (Essentially).
 
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Mar 10:40 But it is not for me (JESUS) to say who will sit at my right or my left. God has prepared those places for the ones he chooses."

;)
 
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To the op of this thread and the title of this thread,, i will just answer to the title of the thread
God does not force his faith,, it is up to you to choose it and follow it to the end,, and this is why you should look here,
Matthew 22:14

mathew
The Parable of the Banquet

13"Then the king said to the servants, 'Bind him hand and foot, and throw him into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.' 14"For many are called, but few are chosen."
 
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Paul said that he received the gift of apostleship and OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH FROM GOD;;;;; Romans 1. God's Love does EXACTLY that... make us KEEP HIS WORD...

For it is the DOERS of the Word that love God not the hearers...

And it is HE WHO KEEP MY WORD that love Me, and the Father will love HIM AND WE WILL COME AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.... WOW!!!! Imagine God making abode with me...

It will have to be the PERFECT situation... Wow God is truly selective and He did say MANY try to enter through the narrow gate, but they will NOT able too. Maybe it us because they want to carry sin into God's Kingdom... NOT GOING TO HAPPEN...
 
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Paul said that he received the gift of apostleship and OBEDIENCE TO THE FAITH FROM GOD;;;;; Romans 1. God's Love does EXACTLY that... make us KEEP HIS WORD...

For it is the DOERS of the Word that love God not the hearers...

And it is HE WHO KEEP MY WORD that love Me, and the Father will love HIM AND WE WILL COME AND MAKE OUR ABODE WITH HIM.... WOW!!!! Imagine God making abode with me...

It will have to be the PERFECT situation... Wow God is truly selective and He did say MANY try to enter through the narrow gate, but they will NOT able too. Maybe it us because they want to carry sin into God's Kingdom... NOT GOING TO HAPPEN...
this is why the doctrine of your future sins are forgiven must be squashed,, by fellow brothers and sisters and this is why one must pray against racism and hate..
 

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God chooses the people that obey him

Josh 24:22 And Joshua said unto the people, Ye are witnesses against yourselves that ye have chosen you the LORD, to serve him. And they said, We are witnesses.
Josh 24:23 Now therefore put away, said he, the strange gods which are among you, and incline your heart unto the LORD God of Israel.
Josh 24:24 And the people said unto Joshua, The LORD our God will we serve, and his voice will we obey.
 

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now those that went back on the promise and did not obey the Lord, God said:

Deu 9:23 Likewise when the LORD sent you from Kadeshbarnea, saying, Go up and possess the land which I have given you; then ye rebelled against the commandment of the LORD your God, and ye believed him not, nor hearkened to his voice.
Deu 9:24 Ye have been rebellious against the LORD from the day that I knew you.
Deu 9:25 Thus I fell down before the LORD forty days and forty nights, as I fell down at the first; because the LORD had said he would destroy you.
Deu 9:26 I prayed therefore unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, destroy not thy people and thine inheritance, which thou hast redeemed through thy greatness, which thou hast brought forth out of Egypt with a mighty hand.


you dont believe the bible
you dont read it

you dont follow it

you will see what happens.
 

Channa

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Please dont judge. Everyone could think by hisself of he/she read the Bible enough. You couldnt know it.
 
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Of cause respect of person applies to the elect.
If God chooses one for salvation and one for damnation, That is a respecter of people, and that would make God a sinner.
God has chosen a body, (Not individual people), and that body is made up from anyone who believes and gets born again.
Jesus died for the whole world, but people have to receive salvation.

The Bible clearly says, The whosoever, not the ones chosen by God.
 
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God chose a body, and that body is made up from anyone and everyone who is born again.
If God chose one person and not another, That would make Him a respecter of people,
And that would make Him a sinner, James 2: 9.
Salvation is for the whosever, John 3: 16.
Nonsense. We do not choose Christ, he chooses us. Do not make promises you cannot keep, for it is not up to you. Christ knows His sheep and they hear his voice and follow Him. Just because a person makes a decision to accept Christ does not secure anything. There are names written in the book of life from the overthrow of Satan. Those names are there. They are not added to, nor subtracted.