Does God desire the salvation of all mankind?

[ForestGreenCook]

That would contradict the Gospel which offers salvation to all freely: And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. (Rev 22:17).

That eliminates the natural man (1 Cor 2:14).

 

[HeIsHere]

Not a Calvinist. Just a Biblicist.

Now what?

I would say you need to go back to the drawing board, metaphorically speaking.

 

[SonLight_Wolf]

I would say you need to go back to the drawing board, metaphorically speaking.

I think you have no clue as to what I posted, that you quoted. But felt like you had to say something regardless.

 

[HeIsHere]

I think you have no clue as to what I posted, that you quoted. But felt like you had to say something regardless.

I know exactly what you posted, I understand the error of you view all to well and it completely fails when one uses biblical hermeneutics.
It maligns God and is not biblical.

You asked a question and I answered, projecting maybe.

 

[SonLight_Wolf]

I know exactly what you posted, I understand the error of you view all to well and it completely fails when one uses biblical hermeneutics.
It maligns God and is not biblical.

You asked a question and I answered, projecting maybe.

No. Anyone who thinks eternal salvation isn't eternal, maligns God.
Maybe that's the point.

Projecting your ego on Christ, thinking we have to work to stay saved, can lose what God gives, which maligns his omnipotence and omniscience, while insisting on man's ego and pride as what makes us co-redemptrix with Christ, is blasphemy.

You are eternally wrong.
You should actually study Hermeneutics. At least delve into Soteriology.

 

[HeIsHere]

No. Anyone who thinks eternal salvation isn't eternal, maligns God.
Maybe that's the point.

Projecting your ego on Christ, thinking we have to work to stay saved, can lose what God gives, which maligns his omnipotence and omniscience, while insisting on man's ego and pride as what makes us co-redemptrix with Christ, is blasphemy.

You are eternally wrong.
You should actually study Hermeneutics. At least delve into Soteriology.

You seem to be replying to the wrong person.
Maybe go back and get your facts straight before you accuse me of something that I do not believe.

 

[SonLight_Wolf]

You seem to be replying to the wrong person.
Maybe go back and get your facts straight before you accuse me of something that I do not believe.

Take your own advice when replying to my posts.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

That eliminates the natural man (1 Cor 2:14).

I love how you use Paul to create LIES.

Here is Paul to Timothy:

Notice that Paul uses ALL MEN or PEOPLE, not those predestined.

 

[CorrectiveLens]

God is not the one who faces the mountain. Look what Jesus tells this woman in Verse 34...YOUR FAITH HAS MADE YOU WHOLE.

Jesus didn't say His FAITH, He said her FAITH.

Whoever taught you your beliefs has to be rotting in Hell!

I get my inspiration from Scripture and the Holy Spirit. Do you realize that you might unknowingly be blaspheming the Holy Spirit? You are very harsh and quick in your judgement. I pray that God will not judge you the same way and forgive you for your ignorance.

 

[CorrectiveLens]

I get my inspiration from Scripture and the Holy Spirit. Do you realize that you might unknowingly be blaspheming the Holy Spirit? You are very harsh and quick in your judgement. I pray that God will not judge you the same way and forgive you for your ignorance.

Ephesians 8:2-3
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

I love how you use Paul to create LIES.

Here is Paul to Timothy:

Notice that Paul uses ALL MEN or PEOPLE, not those predestined.

The all men, are all born again spiritual men.


If you insist on applying all of the salvation scriptures to refer to eternal salvation, the scriptures will teach you that eternal salvation is achieved by your good works, which is a false doctrine.

When a newborn babe in Christ becomes mature enough to come unto a knowledge of the truth, it saves (delivers) him from his ignorance. It has nothing to do with eternal deliverance.

Salvation= deliverance, saved=delivered, save=deliver, according to Greek interpretation.

The natural man (1 Cor 2:14) cannot come unto a knowledge of spiritual truths, until he has been born again to the new spiritual life.(Eph 2:1-5.).

Romans 19:1-3 harmonizes

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I get my inspiration from Scripture and the Holy Spirit. Do you realize that you might unknowingly be blaspheming the Holy Spirit? You are very harsh and quick in your judgement. I pray that God will not judge you the same way and forgive you for your ignorance.

The Last Days will present more False Doctrine than any other time because Satan truly knows his time is short.

I have no patience for False Doctrine and all throughout the Bible neither did God.

One only cries foul when they're truthfully guilty.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Ephesians 8:2-3
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Amen!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

The all men, are all born again spiritual men.


If you insist on applying all of the salvation scriptures to refer to eternal salvation, the scriptures will teach you that eternal salvation is achieved by your good works, which is a false doctrine.

When a newborn babe in Christ becomes mature enough to come unto a knowledge of the truth, it saves (delivers) him from his ignorance. It has nothing to do with eternal deliverance.

Salvation= deliverance, saved=delivered, save=deliver, according to Greek interpretation.

The natural man (1 Cor 2:14) cannot come unto a knowledge of spiritual truths, until he has been born again to the new spiritual life.(Eph 2:1-5.).

Romans 19:1-3 harmonizes

Do you walk around looking at people and wonder if God is Saving them or purposefully Sending them to HELL?

 

[John146]

The Last Days will present more False Doctrine than any other time because Satan truly knows his time is short.

I have no patience for False Doctrine and all throughout the Bible neither did God.

One only cries foul when they're truthfully guilty.

Calvinism is a false doctrine.

 

[CorrectiveLens]

The Last Days will present more False Doctrine than any other time because Satan truly knows his time is short.

I have no patience for False Doctrine and all throughout the Bible neither did God.

One only cries foul when they're truthfully guilty.

or disillusioned.

 

[Underwhosewings]

There are many who claim that God does not desire the salvation of all human beings. But that is simply a lie of the devil. This one verse from Isaiah 45:22 refutes that idea: Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. This is confirmed below in John 3:16,17.

"All the ends of the earth" encompasses the whole world of humanity. Therefore if God were electing people for salvation, He would elect everyone and save everyone. But that is not how God offers salvation to mankind. Instead God wants that the Gospel be preached in all the world and to "every creature". And when the Gospel is preached, those hearing the Gospel must also hear that (1) God now commands all men everywhere to repent and (2) God now commands all men everywhere to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved. It is through repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ that sinners are saved from Hell (Acts 20:21).

At the same time God and Christ know that all men will not be saved, because many love darkness rather than light. So what we are seeing today is that evil is triumphing over good, and evil is increasing day by day, while that which is righteous is attacked, rejected and reviled.

Nonetheless, the true Gospel must continue to be propagated, and what it says is this (John 3:1-21;29-36 ). These are the words of Christ Himself as well as His forerunner John the Baptist. So these are the words of God.

1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?
10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?
11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.
12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God...
29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.
30 He must increase, but I must decrease.
31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.
35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.
36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

Acts 17:30 KJV
And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

 

[CorrectiveLens]

What's the rest? In context as relates to sustaining passages?

''...that whosoever believeth in him.... ''

Belief comes by the grace of God! Not if ourselves so that none can brag they chose Jesus.

Because the natural mind cannot understand the things of God unless God changes their mind.

That's contrary to God's own words.

Are you going to accuse God of being a Calvinist?

Christ desires the salvation of all mankind and died for all mankind, but the Father's justice and mercy demands that only a few will be saved. If He condemns everyone, He would not be merciful. If He saves everyone, there would be no justice and sin would run rampant. The only solution is to show His mercy on a few predetermined individuals by granting them repentance, washing away their sins through His Son, and perfecting them through His Holy Spirit.

 

[John146]

Dangers of Calvinism...fatalism...

Why pray? Let's play.
Why hand out gospel tracts? Let's go to the movies.
Why share the gospel? Let's talk about the game.
Why preach out on the street? Let's go grab something to eat.

Let us eat and drink for tomorrow we die.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Calvinism is a false doctrine.

Amen!